ABR Discussion Thread XVII: 40% Spam, 55% Banter, 5% Actually Meaningful Discussion

[Szilard]

Are salmon animals? yes
Are they from the planet earth? yes
then they breathe oxygen.


Now it might not be air that they breath (like humans), but there is oxygen dissolved in the water and that is what they use.

I just wanted to use a term more specific then air. Anyway, fish do not breath, they do whatever they do with their gills.

[Green-Shirt Q]

I just wanted to use a term more specific then air. Anyway, fish do not breath, they do whatever they do with their gills.

Yes they do.

Fish DO do what they do with their gills.

[Lyinginbedmon]

I just wanted to use a term more specific then air. Anyway, fish do not breath, they do whatever they do with their gills.

I know what you're talking about and I believe it's osmosis.

Which is pretty much the same thing that happens in our lungs.

[Szilard]

Breathing requires lungs, something fish lack.

[The Gremlin]

Breathing requires lungs, something fish lack.

No it doesn't, actually. Both fish and mammals breathe.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Breathing requires lungs, something fish lack.

I said they function similar to lungs, I never said they had lungs.

[Szilard]

@Lying, I know, I was responding to Q, but you ninja'd me.

Anyway: Breathing on Wikipedia.

[BRC]

I find it odd that we are currently debating how they breath, and are ignoring the fact that they can fly.

[Green-Shirt Q]

@Lying, I know, I was responding to Q, but you ninja'd me.

Oh right. I misread what you had originally said. I read it as this:

I just wanted to use a term more specific then air. Anyway, fish do breath, they don't do whatever they do with their gills.

And I got confused. Sorry.

[Szilard]

Actually, we were talking of the non-existance of such creatures from our world. Unless someone crossbreeded the lungfish, the flying fish (Jumping fish? I forget), and a salmon in the correct way with the appropriate vocal cords and mental capacity to talk.

Anyway, I think gremlin said that Leroy would not exist in the real world, so I thought, why signal him out? What about the other flying landfish?

Edit:@Q, ah, that makes sense, kind of.

[The Gremlin]

Hey guys, I'm working on Inkscape, but how do I adjust the thickness permanently? I can change, say, the pencil thickness, but then I try using the pencil and it uses the normal thickness. How do I make it stick?
EDIT: Also, what do I save it as? Inkscape won't let me upload any file type I can think of (png, jpg, svg, etc.).

[Szilard]

If I knew, that would save be about two and a half seconds for every selection of lines.

[kpenguin]

As regards the flying salmon on earth debate, we already have the flying fish. The Flying Landfish could easily be an evolution of that. Once it becomes the dominant species of it's environment, it could then feasibly move on to evolve better manoeuverability and dexterity, and of course intellect would follow.

Alright, explain to me exactly how the flying fish, a species of fish with enlarged pectoral and pelvic fins that allow it to glide in the air, evolve into flying landfish, a species of fish who are shaped very differently than flying fish with regular sized pectoral fins and no pelvic fins to speak of.

It would make more sense for flying landfish to evolve from lungfish, devolping the skills to move on land first and then developing the gas bladder independently of a flying fish's gliding fins.

[The Gremlin]

Alright, explain to me exactly how the flying fish, a species of fish with enlarged pectoral and pelvic fins that allow it to glide in the air, evolve into flying landfish, a species of fish who are shaped very differently than flying fish with regular sized pectoral fins and no pelvic fins to speak of.

It would make more sense for flying landfish to evolve from lungfish, devolping the skills to move on land first and then developing the gas bladder independently of a flying fish's gliding fins.

A wizard did it!
Magic!
Different world!
You can choose one of those, or all.

[kpenguin]

A wizard did it!
Magic!
Different world!
You can choose one of those, or all.

Agreed.

Although, if flying landfish fly by magic, it would mean Salmon could easily be incapacitated by an antimagic field.

[The Gremlin]

Agreed.

Although, if flying landfish fly by magic, it would mean Salmon could easily be incapacitated by an antimagic field.

Maybe magic helped them evolve in teh first place, though!
Also, Rule of Cool!

[DoomITP]

select the pencil

draw a line with it

goto fill and stroke and set the stroke to whatever


then double click the pencil icon and the options comes up


pick set to current style


it should be perma set now.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Generally it uses the last setting, which is why I'll occasionally draw a new shape and have it come through semi-transparent and stuff.

[memnarch]

Hey guys, I'm working on Inkscape, but how do I adjust the thickness permanently? I can change, say, the pencil thickness, but then I try using the pencil and it uses the normal thickness. How do I make it stick?
EDIT: Also, what do I save it as? Inkscape won't let me upload any file type I can think of (png, jpg, svg, etc.).

I'm unsure of how to permanently change the line thickness for anything; I usually make the shape, then change the size using "ctrl+shift+f".

To the images just do the normal save as. Inkscape will save it as a ".svg" file which is required if you want to keep the ability to move the vectors and whatnot. "ctrl+shift+e" is what you use to export the image to a png file.

[The Gremlin]

select the pencil

draw a line with it

goto fill and stroke and set the stroke to whatever


then double click the pencil icon and the options comes up


pick set to current style


it should be perma set now.

Nope, it isn't.
Also, can you please stop pressing 'enter' like, 4 times? And maybe improve the grammar?

Attention
Invalid File Type.

[Szilard]

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If that works, I'll eat some paper.
I wonder how much time this permanently set stroke thing saves.

Also, you "export file as" to turn an inkscape comic into a png.

[The Gremlin]

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If that works, I'll eat some paper.
I wonder how much time this permanently set stroke thing saves.

Also, you "export file as" to turn an inkscape comic into a png.

Png doesn't work. And where is that option?

[BRC]

Png doesn't work. And where is that option?

Look on the same line as the "Save" Button, it's the picture of a page with an arrow pointing to the right.

[Szilard]

What do you mean it doesn't work?

Edit: This should probably explain how too...

[The Gremlin]

What do you mean it doesn't work?

I've tried saving it as PNG and it still won't upload on Photobucket.
EDIT: I guess that I gotta 'export', cause it worked! Thanks! Will post the image in a sec!

[Szilard]

Are you saving or exporting?

[memnarch]

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Then browse to the location where you want the image you selected exported to. Make sure there's the .png at the end of the location as sometimes it doesn't put it on for you.

[The Gremlin]

Are you saving or exporting?

See the edit.
Also, here's the image!

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It's just a random guy I drew. I know, it looks pretty crappy. This was my first real try on Inkscape.
I must say, it turned out much better than my MSPaint images.
Thanks, all.

[Ninja Chocobo]

Wow, don't think the Abr discussion threads have had a day this slow in..er.. ever.
(At least when the forums are working)

I'd prefer slow to drama.

since when does abr revolve around any form of realism? Leroy isn't even possible in the natural world.

Verisimilitude. Not realism.

Select the pencil.

Draw a line with it.

Go to "Fill and Stroke" (Shift-Ctrl-F) and set the stroke to anything.

Then double-click the "Pencil" icon and an "Options" window should come up.

Select the "This tool's own style:" radio button, and then press the "Take from selection" button.

It should now be set permanently.

This also works for the Pen tool.

It's just a random guy I drew. I know, it looks pretty crappy. This was my first real try on Inkscape.

Blah blah blah Trazoi's Guide.
It's what a considerable amount of the forum has used, and it's never steered me wrong.

[memnarch]

Critique for gremlin

Try using the circle tool so you don't need up with that extra line near the bottom of the head, remove the white fill from the feet, and make the hands about the same size everywhere.