ABR Discussion Thread XVII: 40% Spam, 55% Banter, 5% Actually Meaningful Discussion

[Beans]

Alright, I was just wondering if there might be a program where I wouldn't have to adjust so much. But you're probably right, it'll be best in teh long run.

You be's right. I fell in love with it, and it allowed me to make an undead cranky squid-dude/chick (illithids are hermaphrodites. Alrighty then.) in a black leather dress.
So awesome.

[Darklord Bright]

I dunno, I myself never really liked inkscape. I found it was just a little too complicated for the basic stuff I tend to do, but you might have a better time with it, Grem. Just thought you should hear a vote against it as well, though I'll probably end up switching to it sooner or later.

[Beans]

On a different note...
I'm assuming that someone will eventually respond to Thryza; if anyone needs some suggestions as to the stuff he'd say and how he'd say it, I'm here.

[Shades of Gray]

@Gremlin, I didn't say I'd use your ideas for the the ethereal plane, I just said If you left we'd use mine

We need to vote/debate what makes people come back as ghosts.

A) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, and can't interfere with the material plane (Think Eugene Greenhilt)
B) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, to do something important,
C) People choose to stay as ghosts, but don't get the pleasure of an afterlife.
D) Any combinations of the above.

I personally think that the Soul Eaters should be inevitables, they just seem more... like inevitables. The Praeseans seem more like a race of outsiders.

[BRC]

How about this, after Nameless reaps someone, they are sent to the ethereal plane. They can move around this plane, and they always know the way to the gate that leads to their appropriate afterlife, and they always feel an inclination to go there, so unless they have unfinished buisness, they will head to the gates on their own.

The Preseans are outsiders, who believe that these ghosts deserve to finish whatever buisness they have on the prime material, if they find a hesitant soul, they will often convince it to return to the prime material to finish whatever buisness it left behind. The Soul Eaters are Inevitables sen't to stop this, either by draggin the soul's kicking and screaming to their appropriate gate, or by convincing them to come along quietly....

Now, here's the kicker, Both sides are Lawful. They just subscribe to different laws. The Preseans subscribe to the law that people should carry through with what they started. The Soul Eaters subscribe to the law that the Dead should stay that way.

Hmm, Perhaps the two sides were origionally the same. They were created as stewards of the ethereal plane, and guides to the souls that appeared there. However, different Preseans interprited their role as "Guides" differently, some believed it was simply to expediate the Soul's trip to their appropriate afterlife, others believed it was to help the soul finish it's buisness in the material plane before going. Over the ages, their capablities and even appearances have changed according to their adherance to these philosophies. The Soul Eater's are not proper ineveitables, but they like to think of themselves as such, which is why they try to act and appear mechanical. They picture themselves as faceless enforcers of the laws.
The Preseans, who are sympathetic to the plight of the souls, adopt a more organic appearance, so better to relate with and convince a soul to finish it's buisness.

[The Gremlin]

@Gremlin, I didn't say I'd use your ideas for the the ethereal plane, I just said If you left we'd use mine

We need to vote/debate what makes people come back as ghosts.

A) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, and can't interfere with the material plane (Think Eugene Greenhilt)
B) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, to do something important,
C) People choose to stay as ghosts, but don't get the pleasure of an afterlife.
D) Any combinations of the above.

I personally think that the Soul Eaters should be inevitables, they just seem more... like inevitables. The Praeseans seem more like a race of outsiders.

Okay, how about neither of them are outsiders? However, there are rumors of confused maruts roaming the Ethereal Plane. And there are also devourers and stuff. The soul hunters (can we stop calling them soul eaters?) are mercenaries who sell the souls to the highest bidder.
The Praeseans are outsiders who are devoted to protecting the souls.
And I vote for D: All of the above. Most ghosts didn't choose to not pass on, but have some unfinished business. Some of these ghosts, however, do not have strong enough wills to manifest on the Material, thus resulting in some who are simply trapped on the Ethereal, simply waiting for some mage or planeswalker to find and help them*.
While some ghosts simply came about because they were too strong. They clung to life, so hard that they could not let go. Now they are stuck, in limbo (not literally), unable to go on to their afterlife. They can, however, visit teh Ethereal more often than most ghosts.
Thoughts?
*Hey, I just got an idea. How about a group of guys who are experienced with the Ethereal who are devoted to finding these trapped ghosts and helping to put them to rest? Just an idea.
Also, in my comic, can I call the next plot 'An Imperfect Future'? I think it sounds better.
/\I don't like that idea. It really contradicts all the work we've done so far, and my original idea that the Ethereal Plane is where the ghosts go. I didn't mean for it to be a place where ALL the souls go. And please, STOP CALLING THEM SOUL EATERS!!!

[memnarch]

Hey Grem, is that a Geordi visor?

[Darklord Bright]

Just a question, does anyone have any set voices (other then their own) for their characters in their head? For instance, Dark Lord Bright has an eviller-sounding version of Nameless' voice as far as I'm concerned. Add a bit more malice and some echo and that's it.

[Nameless]

Gremlin, I've already told you, MM is with me, Lying, Salmon, Fayte and the other guys.

[The Gremlin]

Gremlin, I've already told you, MM is with me, Lying, Salmon, Fayte and the other guys.

You had better be joking here.
I've already said that it was a 'random unexplainable clone'.
EDIT: D_Lord Bright, when you save your comics, save them as png. They save way better, and the resolution doesn't get messed up.

[Fay Graydon]

Gremlin, I've already told you, MM is with me, Lying, Salmon, Fayte and the other guys.

*Yawn* huh? what?
*looks at Namelesses post* WOHOO! recognition
...
I should make a comic ¬.¬....
(hmmmm but ive got Orks to make....
comic... orks... comic.... orks.......)

[Lyinginbedmon]

My weekend time is going to be split between comicry and filming/editing, but hopefully I'll actually get around to resurrecting Threeshades sometime before Monday.

[The Gremlin]

Hey Grem, is that a Geordi visor?

No, though it's based on it. This visor is an object which enhances divination powers.

[Nameless]

You had better be joking here.
I've already said that it was a 'random unexplainable clone'.
EDIT: D_Lord Bright, when you save your comics, save them as png. They save way better, and the resolution doesn't get messed up.

That's just an excuse.

[Mina Kobold]

You had better be joking here.
I've already said that it was a 'random unexplainable clone'.
EDIT: D_Lord Bright, when you save your comics, save them as png. They save way better, and the resolution doesn't get messed up.

Wich had nothing to do with Nilrem the Ninga.
>_>
<_<

[Shades of Gray]

How about this, after Nameless reaps someone, they are sent to the ethereal plane. They can move around this plane, and they always know the way to the gate that leads to their appropriate afterlife, and they always feel an inclination to go there, so unless they have unfinished buisness, they will head to the gates on their own.

The Preseans are outsiders, who believe that these ghosts deserve to finish whatever buisness they have on the prime material, if they find a hesitant soul, they will often convince it to return to the prime material to finish whatever buisness it left behind. The Soul Eaters are Inevitables sen't to stop this, either by draggin the soul's kicking and screaming to their appropriate gate, or by convincing them to come along quietly....

Now, here's the kicker, Both sides are Lawful. They just subscribe to different laws. The Preseans subscribe to the law that people should carry through with what they started. The Soul Eaters subscribe to the law that the Dead should stay that way.

Hmm, Perhaps the two sides were origionally the same. They were created as stewards of the ethereal plane, and guides to the souls that appeared there. However, different Preseans interprited their role as "Guides" differently, some believed it was simply to expediate the Soul's trip to their appropriate afterlife, others believed it was to help the soul finish it's buisness in the material plane before going. Over the ages, their capablities and even appearances have changed according to their adherance to these philosophies. The Soul Eater's are not proper ineveitables, but they like to think of themselves as such, which is why they try to act and appear mechanical. They picture themselves as faceless enforcers of the laws.
The Preseans, who are sympathetic to the plight of the souls, adopt a more organic appearance, so better to relate with and convince a soul to finish it's buisness.

I actually like BRC's idea, minus the paragraph with them being the same once.

[Mina Kobold]

@Shades of Gray: Is it okay for Oliver to be included in Ninga history briefly because of a visit to their (demi)plane? (I'm gonna make them and Nilrem a wiki page. Togeter since they aren't important enough to make onne each.)

EDIT:Done.

[Shades of Gray]

Sure, but nothing too major. He only visits the lesser planes for a year tops. (With the exception of the plane of catgirls)

[The Gremlin]

Wich had nothing to do with Nilrem the Ninga.
>_>
<_<

You mean that robot thing? What does he have to do with clones?

[Mina Kobold]

You mean that robot thing? What does he have to do with clones?

It's a Ninga! They are made of living shadow with boots and hats (for refference look in my sig in the "Ningas!" spoiler). That one was a sorcerer and I was joking tough it could explain it... (Explain why there is a clone if you don't get it)

[evil_d4_swarm]

I leave for two days to do homework and 10 pages sprout up?!!



Eh, well... anything big go over while I was toiling away on my science fair project? Probably no...

[Szilard]

Just pointless arguements. Nothing much.

Now I need to go finish making that comic...

[The Gremlin]

I leave for two days to do homework and 10 pages sprout up?!!



Eh, well... anything big go over while I was toiling away on my science fair project? Probably no...

You're right, that is pretty slow.
And, actually, yes. We talked about (and are, in fact, still talking about)what the Ethereal Plane is. I nearly left, but changed my mind and instead left FFF I. I am now trying to learn to use Inkscape.
There was a movement (put forth by me, feel pretty stupid about it now)to ban CA from ABR. Suffice to say, it failed.
And Vikings riding giant eagles continued to be awesomesauce.

[DoomITP]

glad to see the forum back up

[kpenguin]

You're right, that is pretty slow.
And, actually, yes. We talked about (and are, in fact, still talking about)what the Ethereal Plane is. I nearly left, but changed my mind and instead left FFF I. I am now trying to learn to use Inkscape.
There was a movement (put forth by me, feel pretty stupid about it now)to ban CA from ABR. Suffice to say, it failed.
And Vikings riding giant eagles continued to be awesomesauce.

Don't forget how I invaded MM's privacy.

[Mina Kobold]

Don't forget how I invaded MM's privacy.

Yup. Now lets find soe more about him (And everybody else we can find stuff about). I guess his name is Stephen Lewis....


@V: According to what Kpenguin sayed your mothers surname is Lewis, furthermore your ABR character is named Stephen (Oliver is Shades of Grays real name so why should Stephen not be yours) And it was just a guess I made for fun.

[Mad Mask]

Yup. Now lets find soe more about him (And everybody else we can find stuff about). I guess his name is Stephen Lewis....

What makes you think that ?

[Lyinginbedmon]

I'm reasonably certain we're on the verge of stalking now

[Beans]

What's this ABR thing I hear so much about these days?

[Tiffanie Lirle]

What's this ABR thing I hear so much about these days?

*blinks*
http://abr.wetpaint.com/page/Fat+Fish+Fury

*pokes*

I'm reasonably certain we're on the verge of stalking now

They're way past it.