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2010-03-25, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
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2010-03-25, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Since we're speaking of the gods, while the human goddess appears to be in cahoots with Gruumsh, she may help the "good guys" if she considers Jone to still be slaughtering randomly.
Which would lead to more sexual tension between her and Gruumsh.Formerly known as Discord here and Maladin on avatarspirit.net.
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2010-03-25, 09:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-25, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
And what makes him "also the Chosen of Gruumsh"?thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2010-03-25, 11:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Just noticed in the 5th panel the swords are the wrong way round. There swords would have to have passed through each other to end up like that
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2010-03-25, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
I can see your point, but for some reason she comes across as the villain of this arc. A monster that needs to be stopped. Excelent at war and all its applications, but lacking any real humanity. Can a Mary Sue be a villain? Somehow the Villain Sue entry doesn't seem to fit.
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2010-03-25, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
She's more of a force of nature than an actual character at that point; especially that she never talked. Being purposely created to be an avatar of war excuses her frightening skills and capabilities, though it might have been done more gracefully.
I really miss the girl who was happy to be a blacksmith's apprentice.
A shame she was stopped before killing Arachne.Last edited by Dark Faun; 2010-03-25 at 02:46 PM.
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2010-03-25, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Actually, I think it's a compliment to Richard Burlew that he has successfully done so.
In any other story, this character would be the hero of the story; fighting away evil monsters in Black Mountain and readdressing wrongs in the human lands.
YAFGC, however, has been back-to-front ever since the beginning and we're supposed to like the monsters and enjoy their enmity the the humans. That he has also turned a Mary Sue back-to-front and made us hate her in this comic for all the reasons that we would be supposed to like her in another comic is strangely appropriate and very intelligent.
Just as importantly, Mary Sueness aside, we all really liked Jone in the very beginning and as time went on we grew to dislike her more and more, which is perfect evolution for a new character that is slowly being revealed as... I'll say 'Evil' and assume that I made the appropriate exceptions to the rest of the cast.
Jone is the villain of this arc, and I don't think that anyone would argue that she hasn't been depicted as such. It's taken me a while to realise it, but despite a slightly dry period (which Mr.Burlew even deliberately broke up into smaller, more manageable chunks with other stories about Cadugan and Lucas, and Maggs in her tower) this is some very subtle storytelling.Last edited by Wraith; 2010-03-25 at 05:09 PM.
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2010-03-25, 05:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
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I think you have your webcomic authors named Rich mixed up...
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2010-03-25, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Hmm. Seems I do. Apologies to all involved. Richard Morris is the genius behind YAFGC.
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2010-03-25, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
is there a pool on who gets to defeat her?
Glandular Glon would be most ironic* my emphasis
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2010-03-25, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-25, 11:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Agi Hammerthief; 2010-03-26 at 04:36 AM.
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2010-03-26, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Eh... It'd be more annoying if the comic didn't update daily... Its obviously padding to get to 1400 before the big finish, but I can forgive it since... well... daily updates.
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2010-03-26, 04:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
bahahaha
I like this update* my emphasis
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2010-03-26, 05:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Does Gruumsh look undignified in fifth panel.
I must say, that I like the direction it is all heading at.In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2010-03-26, 06:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Of course, considering Maula Bloodhand likes humans and some of the humans in positions of power like her as well, you'd think Gruumsh would just have to ask her to unite orcs and humans instead of creating countless mistakes.
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2010-03-26, 07:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Gruumsh is not supposed to be very smart. Also, he probably cannot imagine a diplomatic method.
Though honestly I would have expected him to be okay with Jone killing Queen B. It would have made Glandular Glon the king and given him another chance.Last edited by Gez; 2010-03-26 at 07:56 AM.
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2010-03-26, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Gruumsh already lost all hopes concerning Glon and putting him in position of power would be a bad move concerning his lacks in the spine and brain departament (especially the fact, that he rarely thinks his idea through). Also the fact, that Queen B. is a strong warrior and a competent general probably makes her valuable in Gruumsh's eye.
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2010-03-26, 08:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Gruumsh may not be very smart, but I think even he realizes Maula's the only thing that prevents Glon to be killed by the Black Mountain inhabitants, possibly not even by the hybrid haters but by someone else for kicks.
Bloodhand's also the best orc warrior of the time so I doubt Gruumsh, patron saint of warriors, would like her to die.
EDIT: And Jone effortlessly slaughters the spirits of the best orc warriors in history before they can even attack.
Why am I not surprised?Last edited by Dark Faun; 2010-03-27 at 04:00 AM.
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2010-03-27, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
Thanks to Ceika (X2), Yeril, Holammer and Dr. Bath for the Avatars!
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2010-03-27, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hopefully... Hopefully we'll see the fight turn around on her.
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2010-03-27, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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I certainly hope so. Jone's starting to grate me the same way Belkar did, though the former's more likely to have the decency of actually getting a fraction of what she deserves at some point in her history, which mitigates it a bit.
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2010-03-27, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
My theory is that she'll be slowly swallowed into the underworld where she'll continue battling the ancient orc spirits forever, being finally happy in a way, and ending her story arc.
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2010-03-27, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-28, 12:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-28, 01:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think this is relevant to the discussion.
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2010-03-28, 04:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-28, 04:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Yet another fantasy gamer comic: discuss
aren't we all glad this little episode is over?
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2010-03-28, 04:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Radar; 2010-03-28 at 04:52 AM.
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