Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XIX: To FAIL, or not to FAIL?

[Mina Kobold]

Hey. What? He's just as old as Lyinginbedmon, subtracting one month of course. You do not go around the planes for ~600 years and not get into fights.

I asume You don't go by DnD rules on that one. Besides you're right, he's totally an epic badass (Oliver is cool)

[Shades of Gray]

Oliver is an epic swordsage who uses a homebrew discipline. So not entirely by DnD rules...

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And he's got a motorcycle!

[Lemming]

Amen. AAAAAAAAAAAAAA(I needed more characters. Stupid minimum length)

[Nameless]

Wait a minute, here. The ALF is fairly strong, and against a single country, yes, it might be a threat. But the ALF is against a CONTINENT, which has superior technology, superior numbers, superior defenses, and superior morale. Superior in every way. It is quite easy for at least a few to joke about that.

And Hezbollah are practically against the whole world, we don't make jokes about them just because they're not as superior.

[The Gremlin]

I'm too young to die! Or be turned into shade spawn I guess...
...The tower near Mordor? Do you mean the time when Frodo was paralyzed by Shelob and brought to the guard tower, and the Sam had to go rescue him? Cause that happened in the book.

Nah, when Faramir takes them to a city. The tower you're thinking of is in Mordor.

[Mina Kobold]

Oliver is an epic swordsage who uses a homebrew discipline. So not entirely by DnD rules...

...

And he's got a motorcycle!

I meant the not aging thing. And motorcycles are cool but not as cool as MAGIC

I know. They left out so much...

One old guy in a fortified position could take out more orcs than a flailing human missile. Using corpses on the other hand...


That was in the book, unless my memory is completely gone. But I'm fairly sure it happened.

It did happen in the book.

[Nameless]

Actually, to my knowledge, Lying is the only epic guy. And you forgot Salmon (understandable, seeing as he hardly ever posts here).
/\ Sigh...

Epic level here.
Not to mention our awesome army and the Citidel. We might be smaller but we're very advanced.

[Shades of Gray]

I meant the not aging thing. And motorcycles are cool but not as cool as MAGIC

That's racial. Gray's stop maturing at age... stop growing. And it's a magic motorcycle. Not really.

[The Gremlin]

I meant the not aging thing. And motorcycles are cool but not as cool as MAGIC



It did happen in the book.

No, it was more of a city. They were brought there unwillingly by Faramir, then attacked by Nazgul.

[Mad Mask]

Wait a minute, here. The ALF is fairly strong, and against a single country, yes, it might be a threat. But the ALF is against a CONTINENT, which has superior technology, superior numbers, superior defenses, and superior morale. Superior in every way. It is quite easy for at least a few to joke about that.

Not a continent, all of know Avbaroy.

HA! We have the reaper, a few tieflings, guinoids, pikalites, a butt load of monsters, and a bunch of epic spell casters. Not to mention the other epic level classes, like 3S. And my widdle Ami will get her miniature otter army to gnaw their eyes out. *proud of Ami*

You don't have pikalites, these are on the UNA's side. Besides, no amount of physical/magical/whatever power is going to save you from ordnance bombs.

Epic level here.
Not to mention our awesome army and the Citidel. We might be smaller but we're very advanced.

That's a bit of an understatement...

That's racial. Gray's stop maturing at age... stop growing. And it's a magic motorcycle. Not really.

How do they deal with overpopulation ?

[CrimsonAngel]

Not a continent, all of know Avbaroy.



You don't have pikalites, these are on the UNA's side. Besides, no amount of physical/magical/whatever power is going to save you from ordnance bombs.

No.... Pikachu.... knockoffs?.....

[The Gremlin]

Epic level here.
Not to mention our awesome army and the Citidel. We might be smaller but we're very advanced.

If you're talking about the argument:
We have no 'awesome army'. We have a bunch of ragtag resisters, many of whom don't get along. We are not organized, we are not a unit, we are just a bunch of smaller groups technically against the same side.
We are not advanced, either. We have some decent technology, from the Dettas, and a bit of Schizotec stuff. The UNA has Sovice stuff, Schizotec stuff, Pikalite stuff, Salmonville stuff, and Lockutas stuff. Not to mention stuff from the dwarves, elves, orcs, and all those groups.
Ow.

[Shades of Gray]

How do they deal with overpopulation ?

Most of them in the past have been sold into slavery or killed. History has not been kind to Grays. They stop aging at that age, but aren't immortal. They die at age 999 precisely. In addition, most grays tend to... mate with other races. The offspring of Gray usually resemble their non-gray parent more, as the genes of grays aren't very dominant.

[Keris]

No, it was more of a city. They were brought there unwillingly by Faramir, then attacked by Nazgul.

They went to Henneth Annûn, but I think you're thinking of Osgiliath. They decided that Frodo and Sam needed more opposition in their quest, primarily to delay then, and make the film flow better. David Wenham (who played Faramir) said that the book version was "dramatically dead"

[Mad Mask]

Most of them in the past have been sold into slavery or killed. History has not been kind to Grays. They stop aging at that age, but aren't immortal. They die at age 999 precisely. In addition, most grays tend to... mate with other races. The offspring of Gray usually resemble their non-gray parent more, as the genes of grays aren't very dominant.

How did they originally develop their pseudo-immortality ? I'd wager it's the result of some kind of genetic/magical manipulation, since such a thing does not happen like that in nature.

[Shades of Gray]

Precisely MM. The same way they obtained their poison and acid resistance. Genetic or magic manipulation at the hands of other races. Slaves and test subjects for a while, remember.

[SinisterPenguin]

I'm not sure which side Sinister Penguin should be on in Future Imperfect. Would the ALF or the UNA be more suitable for an evil character?

[The Gremlin]

They went to Henneth Annûn, but I think you're thinking of Osgiliath. They decided that Frodo and Sam needed more opposition in their quest, primarily to delay then, and make the film flow better. David Wenham (who played Faramir) said that the book version was "dramatically dead"

Yeah, it was almost as lame as the whole thing with Frodo leaving Sam. It wasn't even that good a scene, either. The worst crime, however, of the movies was Legolas. He is invincible. He never even got a scratch, because he was their 'awesome super smart pretty boy'. Orlando Bloom ruined that movie. They should have just sent him up against Sauron, because he was unhurtable. He could just jump up to the top of the tower. HE WAS THE DUMBEST THING EVER TO HAPPEN TO THE MOVIES!!!

[Nameless]

If you're talking about the argument:
We have no 'awesome army'. We have a bunch of ragtag resisters, many of whom don't get along. We are not organized, we are not a unit, we are just a bunch of smaller groups technically against the same side.
We are not advanced, either. We have some decent technology, from the Dettas, and a bit of Schizotec stuff. The UNA has Sovice stuff, Schizotec stuff, Pikalite stuff, Salmonville stuff, and Lockutas stuff. Not to mention stuff from the dwarves, elves, orcs, and all those groups.
Ow.

[The Gremlin]

What?

[CrimsonAngel]

What?

Thoes are the things from the UNA's seemingly endless army. Nameless posted the idea a couple threads ago.

[Nameless]

Thoes are the things from the UNA's seemingly endless army. Nameless posted the idea a couple threads ago.

Actually that's ALF's army.
I've only come up with some basic information at the moment. Everyone is welcomed to contribute of course.

[Mina Kobold]

I'm not sure which side Sinister Penguin should be on in Future Imperfect. Would the ALF or the UNA be more suitable for an evil character?

That would be ALF. We have plenty of criminals (and also evil guys) plus psychopath's (John Garde's wolf form will end at the resistance at some point and Nameless ain't much better)

[Keris]

@CrimsonAngel: I don't get it. You killed him.. with a herd of giant caterpillars?

HE WAS THE DUMBEST THING EVER TO HAPPEN TO THE MOVIES!!!

Nah, there were dumber things. Like omitting Bombadil, or waiting until the Paths of the Dead to give Arúndil to Aragorn. He's meant to get the flag then, not the sword!

[Nameless]

That would be ALF. We have plenty of criminals (and also evil guys) plus psychopath's (John Garde's wolf form will end at the resistance at some point and Nameless ain't much better)

Nameless is true neutral, not evil.
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Though it would be good for UNA properganda...

"ALF- The bring nothing but Death" or "ALF- They have Death on their side".

[The Gremlin]

Actually that's ALF's army.
I've only come up with some basic information at the moment. Everyone is welcomed to contribute of course.

Ummm...where the hell would they come from, if you don't mind me asking? The ALF is a group of evil, rather insane terrorists, home to wicked criminals like Igon Minoblendy and that mage guy who has been known to help the mass-murderer Vampire What's-His-Name! Why would they help? The ALF can't even pay!

[Mad Mask]

I'm not sure which side Sinister Penguin should be on in Future Imperfect. Would the ALF or the UNA be more suitable for an evil character?

The ALF, because the UNA is an organisation dedicated to peace, justice and good quality of life, at least on the outside. And the ALF provides protection from law to its members, and you have more freedom to do your illegal actions.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

And doesn't ALF having an army sort of go against the whole ragtag underground resistance thing?

[The Gremlin]

And doesn't ALF having an army sort of go against the whole ragtag underground resistance thing?

Yeah, it does. Clearly, we're gonna have to kill those guys.

[Nameless]

Ummm...where the hell would they come from, if you don't mind me asking? The ALF is a group of evil, rather insane terrorists, home to wicked criminals like Igon Minoblendy and that mage guy who has been known to help the mass-murderer Vampire What's-His-Name! Why would they help? The ALF can't even pay!

ALF are only evil in the UNA's eyes. Good and evil are only concepts in which everyone interprets their own way.
The ALF are basically a group of people who don't agree with the UNA's plans, Igon isn’t Evil, Nameless isn’t evil.
The army are other’s much like the main members of the ALF who also disagree with the UNA's plans, so they joined the ALF and got a nice shiny uniform.

And doesn't ALF having an army sort of go against the whole ragtag underground resistance thing?

It's only a small army, I thought it would make things more interesting if the ALF had one.