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    Default Erfworld 158 - tBfGK 145

    Holy...those pliers have the potential to be gamebreakers.

    That is quite scary. An army, with no upkeep, who do not decay, and 'see things differently' if necessary.
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    Wanda must have a serious upgrade to her croakamancy powers, since she can apparently do a perfect raise and then make a whole parcel of troops.
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    Decrypted Ansom is... creepy.
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    You gotta wonder if Stanley ever unlocked all secrets of his hammer. But we can assume that dwagons have no upkeep cost, too.
    And parson have his own royal fanboy now :)
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    Default 158 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 145

    Ahh, religious zeal from the uncroaked minion! Or is it resurrection?

    EDIT: Beat'd. Go see the other thread.

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    It's official: Arkenpliers > Arkenhammer
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    Default Re: Erfworld 158- TBFGK 145

    I think it is more of a combined resurrection and uber-powerful loyalty spell. So powerful it changes the persons very aspect on life, like it has with Ansom.

    Incidentally, Stanley is going to return to find that he already has an army without upkeep, tons of gems to feed the treasury, and a level 0 (?) city as the only downside. I think he will be fairly happy.

    Edit: I also, I love how the blue dwagon keeps popping up in the panels background.
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    Crispy Crackers!

    That means they have all the benefits of troops with no cost now...

    What stops them from simply killing any troops they make to remove up-keep? Can uncroaked units be healed?
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    ...Bwaaah?

    All I can think is that Jillian and Vinny are just gonna love the new Ansom. The guy's reminding more and more of Harvey Dent with every strip.

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    It's becoming clear to me that my suspicions about book 2 may be correct:

    It will be after Parson & co. take over (most of) the world. His friends are summoned to lead the fight against him.

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    How's this for a theory, Ansom is speaking Wanda's views precisely, rather than being under a new loyalty.

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    Oh, com'mon, Parson! Using the "with what army" line? You'd think you would know better.

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    Wow, that was unexpected. I certainly didn't anticipate the whole Ansome converting and becoming a religious fanatic happening. And the whole no upkeep is just a sweetener to the deal.

    I'm not sure if that is merely a quality of being decrypted or if all of Wanda's creations will have that quality. If so, that would be a major game changer in Erf World. (Also, will we see a reappearance of Scarlet?)

    All in all this is setting up to be an awesome book 2!

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    I just realized, Ansom spoke first to Parson and not to Wanda, and he expresses loyalty to him. he even doesn't look at Wanda. So he seems to be less loyal to Wanda than to GK. A potential blow to all the "Wanda will get rid of Stanley" theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
    It's official: Arkenpliers > Arkenhammer
    We don't entirely know that. It depends on how powerful dwagons are and how expensive they are to pop.

    The Arkenpliers still has 2 disadvantages, it requires Wanda to be put at risk, on the battlefield and it is only useful if you are at war.

    Both of the other 2 tools can be used from the comfort of your capital.

    They only got a level 10 Warlord because they managed to kill Ansom. Also, low level troops might not be massively expensive to pop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graymayre View Post
    That means they have all the benefits of troops with no cost now...

    What stops them from simply killing any troops they make to remove up-keep? Can uncroaked units be healed?
    Also, in principle, Wanda could go around and 'absorb' any barbarians into GK's forces. Unless she is killed, casualties on both side become zero upkeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
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    The ability to resurrect an entire army is insignificant against the power of turning walnuts into pigeons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opal Tide View Post
    Wow, that was unexpected. I certainly didn't anticipate the whole Ansome converting and becoming a religious fanatic happening.
    Actually, it fits -- fanatics who have their worldview torn down are likely to become fanatics for something new cause rather than just normal people.

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    Master Class Croakamancer + Arkenpliers = BROKEN GAME

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    PS: I mean, really - level 10 non-decaying and cogent Warlord for zero upkeep? And I guess the upkeep on that new army is zero too... dang.

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    Ansom has quite a change of heart. It will be interesting when he meets Vinny and Jillian again.
    And maybe we have'nt seen the last of Scarlet.

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    So even death can't change Ansom. He's still a pretentious prick, but spouting "darksider" wash this time. Parson isn't amused. But Tool certainly will be...

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    Default Re: Erfworld 157 - tBfGK 145

    And there goes the undead army...

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    All I can say is rut row to any who opposes GK right now... Stanley will be impressed to say the least
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    If Wanda used the Dwagons to get free move, she could go anywhere to every battle they fought and decrypt every unit the beat. This will cost her no move, and she expands GK's army exponentially every round.

    Broken Game? Maybe, but that's what Parson is all about, isn't he?
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    Ok, so the first question that comes to mind is, "Do all of those new uncroaked have zero upkeep and are immune to decay?"

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    I'm thinking that it's inevitable that Parson will be switching sides. You can't properly be a Perfect Warlord, from a narrative perspective, when the deck is already stacked so massively in your favor. Narrative demands heroes to be underdogs, and the last series of strips is building Gobwin Knob to be a serious overdog. Ergo, Parson has to find other employment.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up taking Charlie's offer now, probably also swiping Sizemore when he leaves, as it is pretty clearly indicated that Sizemore will be by Parson's side to the end (or nearly).

    There's also that fourth arkentool plotline dangling around loose. It would make for nice symmetry if that tool got dug up and put to use on Charlie's side, for a pleasing 2v2 War to End All Wars. Putting an ArkenShovel into Sizemore's hands has a certain ring to it, not that we have any idea what the fourth tool is yet. I don't think Parson will get his own tool, he's sufficiently plotworthy in his own right, he doesn't need any more help like that.

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    Just here to say that I like where this is going.

    Keep up the good job, Rob and Jamie. You rock!

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    Reanimated army? Oh boooooop...

    While you're at it, Wanda, bring back Bogroll! And Misty!
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    Every single time the "with what army" line is pulled, there's a giant army that appears out of nowhere.
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    Ho-ly sh*t. That's probably the entire RCC.

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