GitP WarCraft 3: The Frozen Throne group (thread II)

[The Orange Zergling]

No Winterwind at the moment so no PM reminders this week. Tomorrow is Friday and thus the custom map session, I hope to see you all there.

[Duos]

Although my record for these meet-ups is spotty as is () I regret to inform that I will not be at this week's session, and probably not next week's either. My computer caught a virus (From, ironically, Warcraft III) and is currently dead to the world. I still have access to the internet, just no warcraft.

[Winterwind]

So, reminder, tomorrow is our next custom map session. Hope to see you all there.

[LiteYear]

I've decided to start writing that Skibi's guide I said I'd do so long ago. So far, this is what I have:

General Tips:

- Skibi's is more about quality than quantity. A maze much bigger than one screen length will generally spread your money to thin, and there are waves that will take advantage if you build too big a maze.

- On that note, upgrading those mazing level 1 towers is generally never a good idea. The money can be better spent elsewhere. Tower damage scales pretty well, and better towers generally also have better abilities.

- Note that some towers change their function entirely when you upgrade them. (Tempest towers love to do this in paticular)

- If you're one of the back defenders (Yellow, Orange, Green, Pink, Grey, Light Blue), there are brown diamonds in your area. The brown diamods are creep waypoints; these are points that the creeps must cross before continuing on. So, it would be wise to build mazes around them so they have to go through your maze to get to the waypoint, and then through your maze again to get out. Warning: The pathing on Skibi's is a bit flawed; if you maze around a waypoint, make sure you leave a two space wide maze close to the waypoint or else they will attack towers on the way out.

- Practice the Mini-Games, as the gold earned from them can really add up.

- Having a way to heal your towers is very important if you play on surviving the later waves (30 and beyond). I find it worth it to spend a food point on Scarlet Knight, because they by far have the best healing tower in the game (upgraded protection ward).

- On that note, it is generally not wise to have more than two races.

General Wave Information (Classic Mode):

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Armor Types:

Waves 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26, 31, 36, and 41 have Medium Armor
Waves 2, 7, 12, 17, 22, 27, 32, 37, and 42 have Heavy Armor
Waves 3, 8, 13, 18, 23, 28, 33, 38, 39, and 44 have Fortified Armor
Waves 4, 9, 14, 19, 24, 29, and 34 have Light Armor.
Waves 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, ahd 40 have Hero Armor
Wave 43 has Unarmored Armor
Wave 45 has Divine Armor.

General Specials:

Waves 4, 9, 14, 19, 24, 29, 34, and 39 have Air units.
Waves 8, 16, 21, 26, 31, 36, 40, 42, and 43 have units that deal AoE damage to nearby towers each second.
Waves 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, and 40 have a commander which has a beneficial aura for allies and perhaps other abilities.
Waves 23, 32, 38, and 45 will spawn creeps that directly attack your towers.
Waves 14 and 24 are bonus waves; any leaks will not subtract from lives.
Waves 12, 21, 33, 39, and 43 have much stronger creeps, although less spawn.
Waves 7, 14, 24, 26, and 36 have more spawns than normal.

Set Minigames:

The mini game after waves 5 and 15 is always the hero seige game.
The mini game after waves 10 and 20 is always the Obstacle Course game.
The mini game after waves 9, 19, and 29 is always the coin-grabbing game.
The mini game after wave 25 is always the bear game.
The mini game after wave 30 is always the sheep game.
The mini game after wave 35 is always the race game.

Races:

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Ranger
Primary Attack Type: Chaos

Racial Bonus: Whenever a Ranger tower kills a unit, there is a 25% chance it will gain a 35% bonus to damage for two seconds.


Tempest
Primary Attack Type: Magic

Racial Bonus: Whenever a Tempest unit kills an air unit, that unit gives double it's usual bounty.

Specialist
Primary Attack Type: Seige

Racial Bonus: Most specialist towers have more HP and armor compared to similar costing towers from other races.

Scarlet Knight
Primary Attack Type: None; has all attack types in the game

Racial Bonus: You may buy upgrades for certain towers at the scarlet knight base.

Royal Family
Primary Attack Type: Hero

Racial Bonus: All Royal towers sell for 90% of their value (instead of 50%).

Military
Primary Attack Type: Normal

Racial Bonus: All Military towers have greatly increased regeneration compared to other races towers. (Military towers regen 5-15 HP/sec, depending on the tower; other races regen 0.5 HP/sec)

Arcane
Primary Attack Type: Spell

Racial Bonus: All Arcane towers build and upgrade instantly (all other races' towers take 5 seconds)

Other Information:

Weapon Type vs. Armor Type Table:

{table].......|Light|Medium|Heavy|Fortified|Hero|Unarmored|Divine
Normal|

1.00

|

1.25

|

1.00

|

0.75

|

0.95

|

2.00

|0.25

Seige|

1.00

|

0.75

|

1.00

|

1.60

|

0.85

|

2.00

|0.25

Piercing|

1.40

|

0.75

|

1.00

|

0.75

|

0.75

|

2.00

|0.25

Magic|

1.40

|

0.75

|

1.10

|

0.75

|

0.75

|

2.00

|0.25

Chaos|

1.00

|

1.00

|

1.00

|

1.00

|

1.00

|

2.00

|0.25

Hero|

1.10

|

1.10

|

1.10

|

0.50

|

1.25

|

2.00

|0.25

Spell*|

1.00

|

1.00

|

1.00

|

1.00

|

0.75

|

5.00

|1.00[/table]

*Spell attacks ignore armor value, which makes this a bit misleading. Spell type damage is probably the best in this game.

[The Orange Zergling]

Seems like a pretty good start.

It might be wise to note that Arcane and Military are rather unorthadox in their playing styles compared to everything else (more Arcane than Military) and it might be best to start out with some other race (I'm a fan of Specialists, personally).

[Winterwind]

Looks like a good start indeed.

I never realized Skibi's had a fixed armour type order like Corrupted does (though in Corrupted the order is Hero-Heavy-Medium-Light-Fortified instead). That might prove useful to know.

Personally, I'm rather fond of the Scarlet Knight, especially since his special abilities are quite useful, too.

[Winterwind]

Reminder: Tomorrow is our next melee session.
Alas, due to being over at my parents for this weekend with no WC3-capable computer available to me, plus an impending roleplaying session on that evening, I won't be able to participate myself, but I wish you all a lot of fun.

[Cynan Machae]

Taken from the SC thread:

Eh. Nobody playing? Even the bot is gone.

Sorry, I kinda forgot to post a notice about that, but the Bot will be down for a few days. I'm in the process of moving and I won't have internet access for some time (well, not at home). It should be back during this week.

[The Orange Zergling]

Due to sudden RL events I may be about half an hour or so late to the session. I will definitely show up, though.

[Winterwind]

Reminder - tomorrow is our next custom map session. I'm looking forward to seeing you all there!

And... I think that's about all there is to say.

[Winterwind]

And reminder again, tomorrow is our next melee session. Hope to see you there, too.

[Winterwind]

C'mon, folks, does noone of you all have anything interesting to talk about? Don't make me triple-post!

Reminder: Tomorrow is our next custom map session. If I don't have a spontaneous meeting with friends, I hope to see you there.

[SirSigfried]

Yes there are things to talk about..... I'm not dead (yet). I'm back home now.

Trip took longer than expected.

[Winterwind]

Lib! You live!

Welcome back. Good to see you again.

[Bunny of Faith]

Yes there are things to talk about..... I'm not dead (yet). I'm back home now.

Trip took longer than expected.

We have a Lib? Woo! And no, do not expect an explanation of who I am. That'd be boring.

[Winterwind]

Oooh! We get to guess! Okay, are you an animal, a vegetable, a mineral, or an abstract concept that turned into a rabbit?

[PePe QuiCoSE]

well, monday is a holiday here in Argentina so i´ll probably be around to rub out the dust of my NE and play some games.

[Winterwind]

Sweet. More fresh meat for the slaughter.
...er, to celebrate you joining us, I mean, obviously!

[Bunny of Faith]

Oooh! We get to guess! Okay, are you an animal, a vegetable, a mineral, or an abstract concept that turned into a rabbit?

A mineral, of course. What else?

[Bunny of Faith]

As an aside, I won't be here tonight! Staying over at a cousin's house.

[Winterwind]

And another reminder: Tomorrow is our next melee session! I hope to crush murder defeat see you there!

[Winterwind]

Sorry for not having shown up yesterday; RL friends kidnapped me again.
As they apparently intend to do today. Probably not for quite as long, so I might still show up later on, but it will be late (sorry about that, Yak).

[PePe QuiCoSE]

nvm about that, i have to study so i won't be around anyway

[Winterwind]

Reminder: Tomorrow is our next custom map session. I hope to see you there.

[u-gotNOgame]

Yes, I'll be late... But lets show up!! I think I've played 2 games with the group in the past 2 weeks, so lets get a good turnout. Also, lets keep its civil... please?

-UGNG

[Winterwind]

Aaand reminder again - tomorrow's the melee session. Come all, you who are not scared to face the Undead Scourge.

[Istari]

Sorry I haven't been able to get on lately, I had to reinstall my computer and haven't got around to putting W3 back on yet but I will get I by net week hopefully

[Copper8642]

I would definitely be interested in joining the custom map group, if that could be done.

My Battle.net name is also Copper8642.

[Winterwind]

Most definitely it could be done. Welcome to the group.

[Copper8642]

Woohoo, finally, playing Parasite with people who might have half-decent IQs!