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    In which Parson discovers the concept of angst.
    "They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    Ouch. All that needs to be said.

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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    Heh, so that was the order that he stopped short of issuing...

    on the brite side, that means while he is a 'fighter' and a 'general' at heart, he is not driven by revenge and won't in his eyes murder someone...kill in battle, fight for survival, order assasination to win war...fine...murder the 'effectively' helpless...no.

    That thought should give him some measure of peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Juan View Post
    That thought should give him some measure of peace.
    Did you see the look on his face? I think "You are a remarkable warrior" was supposed to be dripping in irony. He's just had to acknowledge his dark side: he is perfectly capable of quite a lot of stuff we don't approve of in the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS Oceanic View Post
    In which Parson discovers the concept of angst.
    I think he had discovered it quite earlier already. It's just that now that nothing's happening since Wanda has finished her exposition and Stanley is not back yet, he has nothing else to do but wallow in it.

    And he still hasn't ordered Misty's corpse exhumed and decrypted. Tch, tch.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    I thought the comic was going to end on page 148?

    This isn't the conclusion, right?

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    I'm glad he didn't backlash Maggie, even if he thought about it...
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    Ah, boop and now he knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS Oceanic View Post
    Did you see the look on his face? I think "You are a remarkable warrior" was supposed to be dripping in irony. He's just had to acknowledge his dark side: he is perfectly capable of quite a lot of stuff we don't approve of in the real world.
    I suspect that Maggie meant it simply as a statement of fact. How Parson feels about it is another matter....

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    Can't see the comic yet. No fair.
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    I wonder whether it is possible to decrypt a caster save decrypt a person that croaked more than a turn ago. Don't corpses vansih during the "clean-up"-phase at dayroll? Or did she get a funeral (claimed and moved a corpse) and now somewhat has the same status as a cloth golem fur?

    Would like to see here back save and sound. Anybody noticed tha amount of casters in GK?

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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    So the command Parson was about to issue on this page was going to be a command for Maggie to sacrifice herself. Hmmmm... It was nice to see that confirmed.

    On a side note, Sizemore seems pretty content right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    And he still hasn't ordered Misty's corpse exhumed and decrypted. Tch, tch.
    That is, I believe, because the body disappeared at the beginning of the turn after she died. Decrypting may be powerful, but it cannot work on a nonexistent or thoroughly destroyed body (as was the case with Bogroll).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Desastro View Post
    Anybody noticed that amount of casters in GK?
    Not surprising, they once held 11 cities. If you take the ones from Faq there's only three remaining. It looks like popping a caster is really something that doesn't happen very often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiley_ View Post
    That is, I believe, because the body disappeared at the beginning of the turn after she died. Decrypting may be powerful, but it cannot work on a nonexistent or thoroughly destroyed body (as was the case with Bogroll).
    Bodies disappear unless they get uncroaked or moved. I suspect burying counts as moving, unless they could bury her without moving her, which seems unlikely.
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    I don't get it, exactly what did Maggie do to Misty and Jack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inst View Post
    I don't get it, exactly what did Maggie do to Misty and Jack?
    When the link was severed, she shielded herself from the backlash, so those two took more than they would have otherwise.

    If she hadn't done that, Misty might not have croaked and Jack might not have gone stark raving mad.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    And meanwhile, Sizemore rebuilds...

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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    If bodies disappear at the start of the next turn - why where there all these bodies left to Decrypt for Wanda when a new turn had started?

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    Default Re: Erfworld 161 - tBfGK 148

    GK's turn was before the RCC's turn. So the bodies of the enemies are still there until the RCC's turn. Then again, if everyone has left the battlespace and the RCC has disbanded (which seems likely), I wonder what that means for the bodies.

    EDIT: Also, there was a decrypted Gobwin on the last page. So I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datalaughing View Post
    EDIT: Also, there was a decrypted Gobwin on the last page. So I dunno.
    I bet that Wanda moved all the bodies around during the eruption so that even after they were croaked they still counted as "moved" because on some level there was a conscious application of force.

    But one thing I do wonder is; once a unit is moved does it's disappear phase just get pushed back by one turn, or is it forever corporal after that? If number two it still might be possible for Misty to be called back from her in ground rest. I would not bet on it though. Decomposition seems to happen pretty quickly to the un-croaked, so if something is truly croaked it would happen even more quickly. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by datalaughing View Post
    Bodies disappear unless they get uncroaked or moved. I suspect burying counts as moving, unless they could bury her without moving her, which seems unlikely.
    [Sizemore's] Fairly convinced I'm batboop crazy now, since corpses which aren't uncroaked or moved disappear at the start of next turn. Like trash. Still, it seemed right. She deserves to rest.
    When read in context, this suggests that burying does not count as moving a corpse, and that movement requires something more than just moving a body around within the same hex.

    As for the corpses, it has been suggested that they would disappear at the beginning of the Collation's turn, since that was when most of the killing took place. Otherwise, uncroaking units would be far more ineffectual, since by the time GK could act again, all the corpses would be gone.

    (Not counting Wanda's mass uncroaking in the city, because she was already inthe same hex, but it makes sense seeing as it would allow her to retrieve and uncroak Manpower.)
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    I love elfworld and dont want it to end, but hasnt this gone past the battle for goblin knob?

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    The Wot rule is

    "Croaked units leave bodies, which exist as physical objects for a short time after croaking. Bodies disappear at the start of the next turn that their side has, unless moved/claimed (e.g. uncroaked, reanimated as golems, eaten, used for something else like the teddybearskin rug and mounted gwiffon head in Parson's room)Erf-b1-p035. In the event that their side is eliminated, unclaimed bodies disappear at the next nightfall. "

    This seems to imply that 'moved' actually means that you must do something with them. It seems that 'used' would be a better wording that 'moved', assuming that is the meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiley_ View Post
    When read in context, this suggests that burying does not count as moving a corpse, and that movement requires something more than just moving a body around within the same hex.
    I disagree. I think the context suggests that the corpse will not disappear. Sizemore thinks he's crazy because if they just left her alone (which I suppose it what they would normally do) she'd disappear. Instead Parson insists on moving and burying her, thus ensuring that her corpse won't disappear, which must seem very strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krytha View Post
    I love elfworld and dont want it to end, but hasnt this gone past the battle for goblin knob?
    I think we're in the "epilogue" part of the Gobwin Knob story. They're just tying up loose ends while setting up the next chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raphfrk View Post
    The Wot rule is

    "Croaked units leave bodies, which exist as physical objects for a short time after croaking. Bodies disappear at the start of the next turn that their side has, unless moved/claimed (e.g. uncroaked, reanimated as golems, eaten, used for something else like the teddybearskin rug and mounted gwiffon head in Parson's room)Erf-b1-p035. In the event that their side is eliminated, unclaimed bodies disappear at the next nightfall. "

    This seems to imply that 'moved' actually means that you must do something with them. It seems that 'used' would be a better wording that 'moved', assuming that is the meaning.
    That would seem to imply that Misty's body would indeed survive, as being purposefully placed in a grave rather than simply allowed to vanish would seem to be a form of "claimed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    And he still hasn't ordered Misty's corpse exhumed and decrypted. Tch, tch.
    Or Parson just might not want to out of respect.

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    Maggie is the 3rd worst monster on the mountain, Wanda is number 2, I wonder who number 1 is? So we see how Pason thinks of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveMB View Post
    That would seem to imply that Misty's body would indeed survive, as being purposefully placed in a grave rather than simply allowed to vanish would seem to be a form of "claimed".
    The turn count is:

    Turn 1
    GK: Parson does the donut of death
    RCC: Ansom/Jillian win the lake battle
    Night: Stanley orders the link to be broken and the dwagons recalled

    Turn 2
    GK: Link carries out Stanleys orders, Misty dies
    GK: Misty is moved and then buried
    GK: Stanley leaves
    RCC: Vinny + Jillian head to the pass
    RCC: Wanda sets off air defenses
    RCC: Vinny + Jillian switch alliance
    RCC: Webinar goes into tunnels

    Turn 3
    TRANS: Jillian + Vinny make it to pass and are met by Caesar.
    GK: Misty's corpse should depop now
    GK: Stanley arrives at pass and is turned around
    GK: Parson wipes out Webinar
    RCC: Ansom breeches walls and makes the deal with Charlie
    RCC: Ansom about to take GK
    RCC: Parson deploys "uncroak volcano gambit"
    RCC: Parson jumps into portal

    Turn 4
    GK: Parson & co return to GK

    I think I may have missed a turn in the middle, but anyway. Misty was buried in turn 2. If that counts as moved, maybe that saves her body from de-popping at the start of GK's turn for turn 3. However, her body wasn't moved during turn 3, so it should depop at the start of GK's turn 4 turn.

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