So you persisted timestop now what?

[lyko555]

So you have persisted time stop. The spell says it just speeds you up, and doesnt actually pause time so you get 1d4+1 rounds to evry one elses1 round.

Assuming the above to be true what do you do with your time?

keep in mind other ppl are completly immune to you for the entire duration of time stop.

[Worira]

Eat potatoes 1d4+1 times faster than everyone else.

[taltamir]

1. If in combat, limit yourself to summoning and buffs.
2. Use it primarily out of combat. 1d4+1 = 3.5 rounds on average... it lasts 24 hours, so on average you get 84 hours every 24 hours... use it to craft faster, travel, read, learn, research spells etc...

[Heliomance]

See, Time Stop gives you 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time. Persistent Spell does nothing to that, it changes the actual duration to 24 hours. So what would happen is, you'd get 1d4+1 rounds of actions while the rest of the world got 24 hours.

[balistafreak]

Burn out your life faster than everyone else you know?

Aaah, the perils of time magic...

[Choco]

See, Time Stop gives you 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time. Persistent Spell does nothing to that, it changes the actual duration to 24 hours. So what would happen is, you'd get 1d4+1 rounds of actions while the rest of the world got 24 hours.

Perfect for those slow days at work.

[Snake-Aes]

See, Time Stop gives you 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time. Persistent Spell does nothing to that, it changes the actual duration to 24 hours. So what would happen is, you'd get 1d4+1 rounds of actions while the rest of the world got 24 hours.

This is the appropriate answer to players who become smug when they show creativity. Lessons of humility are not only for sorcery ;)

[Sliver]

Perfect for those slow days at work.

When others see you frozen for 24 hours, you are actually living it all as 1d4+1 rounds. You might get fired...

[Vizzerdrix]

Glue a handful of Black Sand to the back of their head.
Put an E-Runes book bomb down their pants.
Go make a sammich and rest.
take the McGuffin and run.
build a spell turret right in front of them.
Surround them with portable holes filled with nasty stuff.
Swap their blade for a large fish.
paint a target on their shield.
Get a full days worth of buffs on all your party members.
Jam the gate controls and lock down the bridge so you can make a quick escape
Make a copy of the prison key in case you get caught.
Walls of X. Turn the battlefield into a maze.

Best when used by either a warforged or a Killorien.

[lyko555]

See, Time Stop gives you 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time. Persistent Spell does nothing to that, it changes the actual duration to 24 hours. So what would happen is, you'd get 1d4+1 rounds of actions while the rest of the world got 24 hours.

No it says that it apears that time has stopped because you have been sped up.
so slowing down is the opposite of what would happen.

[Snake-Aes]

No it says that it apears that time has stopped because you have been sped up.
so slowing down is the opposite of what would happen.

A Possible read is that it "Speeds you up so 1d4+1 rounds go through the duration of the spell". They are very specific to point out that the 'duration' is of apparent time, while outside the caster it really is an instantaneous spell.

[2xMachina]

Run circles around your enemies and taunt them.

[Worira]

It certainly doesn't make you move 1d4+1 times as fast. It makes you move eleventyzillion times faster, but can only be maintained for 6-30 seconds.

[Snake-Aes]

That doesn't disagree nor complement anything said so far, does it?

[taltamir]

See, Time Stop gives you 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time. Persistent Spell does nothing to that, it changes the actual duration to 24 hours. So what would happen is, you'd get 1d4+1 rounds of actions while the rest of the world got 24 hours.

This is still an AWESOMELY useful spell...

1. Conquer small kingdom
2. Set up schools all over the place for magic, technology, and military tactics.
3. Set up a robust system of advisers etc...
4. Fund adventuring parties to acquire great artifacts of power for your own personal use (thanks to your rapidly filling coffers)

You get to be the "immortal" king who never ages. You skip days at a time while the kingdom strengthens and builds up. Every now and then you spend a little extra personal attention on things, get outfitted with newly acquired artifacts, etc etc...

[Snake-Aes]

This is still an AWESOMELY useful spell...

1. Conquer small kingdom
2. Set up schools all over the place for magic, technology, and military tactics.
3. Set up a robust system of advisers etc...
4. Fund adventuring parties to acquire great artifacts of power for your own personal use (thanks to your rapidly filling coffers)

You get to be the "immortal" king who never ages. You skip days at a time while the kingdom strengthens and builds up. Every now and then you spend a little extra personal attention on things, get outfitted with newly acquired artifacts, etc etc...

You'd basically show up once per week... Wouldn't a Suspend Life work better for that purpose? O.o Aging a day per week compared to aging a day per year, coupled with the occasional year aging 2 days so you can recover the spent points.

[taltamir]

You'd basically show up once per week... Wouldn't a Suspend Life work better for that purpose? O.o Aging a day per week compared to aging a day per year, coupled with the occasional year aging 2 days so you can recover the spent points.

I should have known WOTC would have already printed a spell that does exactly that, only cheaper and easier... whats the point of breaking spells, just look through the thousands of printed spells for a prebroken one.

[Mystic Muse]

What's suspend life?

[Heliomance]

By the sound of it, a psionic power that puts you in suspended animation.

[Snake-Aes]

What's suspend life?

Level 6 Psionic Power, permanent. Lets you trance and your body slows down 365 times, letting a day pass in your system while a year passes outside. You'd have to recast it every now and then but that shouldn't be less troublesome than maintaining persisted time stops.

[jiriku]

Persisted timestop cast every day = all the vacation you could ever want, as long as you don't mind vacationing by yourself.

[Mystic Muse]

Level 6 Psionic Power,

Daww I was hoping for something I could use for my Paladin.

Note: I use a much better, homebrew version of Paladin.

[Dogmantra]

When others see you frozen for 24 hours, you are actually living it all as 1d4+1 rounds. You might get fired...

Or buried because people think you're dead.

[Rothen]

See, Time Stop gives you 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time. Persistent Spell does nothing to that, it changes the actual duration to 24 hours. So what would happen is, you'd get 1d4+1 rounds of actions while the rest of the world got 24 hours.

Well, we already had this discussion in the Incantatrix thread, but persisting a time stop could very well be read as persisting the 1d4+1 apparent time, and by RAW, there is nothing that prevents you from interpreting the spell that way.

Regardless of balance issues, my wizard now has 24 hours to mope about while you blink and stare at him in slow-motion. What should he do with that time?

[Sliver]

Or buried because people think you're dead.

Well, probably... But you still feel time passing. Every second for you is a hour+ for the world. You won't get buried in a hour after casting the spell, and considering you are frozen, not limp, it might hint them at something. They might thikn you were petrified.

[taltamir]

Daww I was hoping for something I could use for my Paladin.

Note: I use a much better, homebrew version of Paladin.

WBL is notoriously easy to break, item crafting rules are ALSO notoriously easy to break...
believe me your paladin can use it :)

[Mystic Muse]

WBL is notoriously easy to break, item crafting rules are ALSO notoriously easy to break...
believe me your paladin can use it :)

Ooh. Good point. I'm going to ask my DM about this next session and ask him what he'd price it at as an item.

[Dogmantra]

considering you are frozen, not limp, it might hint them at something.

Rigor Mortis?

[mjames]

Warning: Generic Timestop question... If we are using the assumption that everyone else experiences time just gets fewer actions than you per round... (or if some one of the other opinion is welcome to chime in as well)

1. Do AAOs become triggered?
2. How does it affect other round/time manipulation? How do they interact?

[2xMachina]

They can't affect you actually, since in Timestop, you cannot affect other creatures in the slowed time line.