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    For the life of me, I can't figure out when it became a creator's duty to protect you from the consequences of slacking off at your job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPoD View Post
    For the life of me, I can't figure out when it became a creator's duty to protect you from the consequences of slacking off at your job.
    Exactly.

    Not to mention what you're saying is that you're reading a webcomic with your boss standing there, capable of reading the words on the screen. Basic respect and proper work ethic don't matter anymore? When your boss is close enough to read your screen, he probably wants you to be doing work or listening to him, not reading comics.

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    Originally Posted by blackbird71 View Post
    What I would like to know is how you ever justify denying your readers the simple courtesy of an NSFW content warning?
    What wasn't safe for work? A curse word doesn't make something NSFW, especially if the word is written. Usually NSFW refers to sexual or grotesque content e.g. R rated content or worse. As said above, this is still PG-13 which is SFW.
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    Exactly. NSFW usually means pictures and sound, not words. It came into being because our laws state that making someone else uncomfortable at work with, say, porn, is illegal. Most businesses crack down hard on it. Most businesses do not worry about the occasional swear word in written text, because the only way someone should be seeing it is if they're up close and reading your screen.

    If your workplace is so strict that there's

    A) someone monitoring your computer by reading the words on the screen
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    B) will punish someone for reading something with the word "****" in it

    they probably don't want you reading webcomics in general. Especially one that features a dominatrix scene early on, hosted on a website with another comic where one of the characters talks about sex.

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    I'm sort of intrigued now as to where he actually works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decius View Post
    As regards language,
    vulgar: spoken by, or being in the language spoken by, the people generally
    obscene: offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved

    vulgar and obscene are almost mutally exclusive: One is what is in common use, the other is what goes beyond the pale.

    To say that vulgarity is offensive is to assert that one is in a class distinct from the common class. Is that what you intend?
    I really despise seeing people twist meanings to try (and fail) to make their point. You've cited one meaning of vulgar. Why don't you cite all of them, and then try to guess which one applies in the context? I can answer my own question: Because you have no point if you use the meaning in context instead of cherry picking a meaning which tries to paint Jamin in a poor light.

    Not very honorable of you.Here are a few meanings you conveniently excluded.
    vul·gar (vlgr)
    adj.
    1. Crudely indecent.
    2. a. Deficient in taste, delicacy, or refinement.
    b. Marked by a lack of good breeding; boorish. See Synonyms at common.

    vulgar·ly adv.
    vulgar·ness n.
    Word History: The word vulgar now brings to mind off-color jokes and offensive epithets, but it once had more neutral meanings.

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    Why did you use white font for half your post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamin View Post
    When you use a vulgar word it is vulgar any way you use it.
    but who determines if a word is vulgar? in what logical way is one word more or less vulgar than any other word?

    Straight from wiki answers: Swearing originated from the natural human desire to exclaim if things go wrong or hurt.

    Basically, saying OUCH is swearing if you got picky about it. aside from your trained reaction, there is literally no difference between the level of offensiveness a word has from another. Vulgarity therefor is created by the listener not the speaker.

    Just to dash your statement, take a word for example i would assume the word filter would turn it into asterisks. that word is an acronym for Store High In Transit. it was a necessary label for shipping manure on wooden ships to keep it from becoming moist in the bottom of the ship and releasing flammable fumes that would cause the ship to go up in flames.

    So, instead of denying the existence of these necessary words from artistic use, perhaps you should look back on yourself and ask why you get offended by words others are not. because there truly is no difference but in your own mind between dagnabbit and the F bomb.
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    I do believe that this discussion is now mostly about linguistics, not the comic.

    Not that there are probably very many people who still wish to talk about the comic.

    Are there?

    As Mr. Giant said, if you're offended by seeing the swear word in this comic, you're reading the wrong comic. On the wrong web site. Little children in playgrounds use swear words, and look at how it's completely not destroying their lives.

    "NSFW" means "Not Safe For Work." It doesn't mean "not vulgar" or "not obscene." It simply means not safe for work. Everyone's work environment is different, as are acceptable materials and behaviors. Consider a schoolteacher's situation, in which one probably doesn't want say or write any swear words. Then consider, say, a rap artist's work environment, in which swearing is accepted and possibly necessary.

    Now, when we want to label something as "NSFW" or "SFW" we make certain assumptions about YOUR work environment. If you're reading a comic strip at work, chances are that you're getting private or free time, or should be fired anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galdon View Post
    but who determines if a word is vulgar? in what logical way is one word more or less vulgar than any other word?

    Straight from wiki answers: Swearing originated from the natural human desire to exclaim if things go wrong or hurt.

    Basically, saying OUCH is swearing if you got picky about it. aside from your trained reaction, there is literally no difference between the level of offensiveness a word has from another. Vulgarity therefor is created by the listener not the speaker.

    Just to dash your statement, take a word for example i would assume the word filter would turn it into asterisks. that word is an acronym for Store High In Transit. it was a necessary label for shipping manure on wooden ships to keep it from becoming moist in the bottom of the ship and releasing flammable fumes that would cause the ship to go up in flames.

    So, instead of denying the existence of these necessary words from artistic use, perhaps you should look back on yourself and ask why you get offended by words others are not. because there truly is no difference but in your own mind between dagnabbit and the F bomb.
    OK this is silly there is a difference between dagnabbit and the f-bomb and everyone knows it. The f-word is offense in both meaning and usage. Try to twist the facts as much as you want but the word will always mean what it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamin View Post
    OK this is silly there is a difference between dagnabbit and the f-bomb and everyone knows it. The f-word is offense in both meaning and usage. Try to twist the facts as much as you want but the word will always mean what it means.
    No, actually there is no difference. Just like there's no difference between you saying "f-word" or simply saying "****" (I hope you understand what 4 letters hide behind those asterisks). We all understand what "f-word" means so it's practically the same and only the hypocrisy of those that believe in magic/superstition makes it any different.
    If someone yelled at you "frack you" (in Galactica fashion) or "ef-you" or "**** you" it would be the exact same thing except if you believe that those 4 letters arranged in a fashion that filters block (but not the previous 2 phrases with the same meaning and intention) are magically more offensive. Words aren't offensive, the intent behind words is (can be).

    Again you are not a representative of the entire society so stop speaking like you are. You represent a small part of it (and even that would probably object to having you as their spokesman). You only really represent yourself and doing a bad job at it.
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    When did I say I speaking for society? Never. I am just expressing how I feel. I am well aware I am in the minority.
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    Oh, for crying out loud . . . y'all have been booping and moaning about this for going on three weeks now . . . The moderator had to delete a hugundo number of posts when y'all went off on a tangent. Given that THE STRIP IS NO LONGER BEING POSTED ON THIS SITE, it's not just moot, it's ridiculous. You've gone beyond beating the proverbial dead horse to a point it's now just a soggy sack of protoplasm. Stick a straw in it and be done.

    Sheriff, given that the strip is complete, could you PLEASE terminate this thread . . ? And let these people go back to debating something substantive like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin or something?

    Jeeze Louise, listening to this argument has been like putting up with debates as to whether Michelangelo's David is obscene . . . Give it a rest, already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamin View Post
    When did I say I speaking for society? Never. I am just expressing how I feel. I am well aware I am in the minority.
    You said "and everyone knows it". Busted!

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    Yeah well... Ok you win I did say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamin View Post
    Yeah well... Ok you win I did say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sieggy View Post
    Oh, for crying out loud . . . y'all have been booping and moaning about this for going on three weeks now . . . The moderator had to delete a hugundo number of posts when y'all went off on a tangent. Given that THE STRIP IS NO LONGER BEING POSTED ON THIS SITE, it's not just moot, it's ridiculous. You've gone beyond beating the proverbial dead horse to a point it's now just a soggy sack of protoplasm. Stick a straw in it and be done.

    Sheriff, given that the strip is complete, could you PLEASE terminate this thread . . ? And let these people go back to debating something substantive like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin or something?

    Jeeze Louise, listening to this argument has been like putting up with debates as to whether Michelangelo's David is obscene . . . Give it a rest, already!
    If you don't want to read it, don't. But don't ask the mods to lock threads just because you yourself are bored of the topic. That's just the height of arrogance right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simanos View Post
    You're a better man than me Jamin.
    Thanks but I have my faults like every other man. I am kinda done discussing this for this will be my last post of thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NerfTW View Post
    If you don't want to read it, don't. But don't ask the mods to lock threads just because you yourself are bored of the topic. That's just the height of arrogance right there.
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    Default Oh s****!

    Yeah, I know that we aren't suposed to discuss new pages here anymore, but last page was so awesome I need to make a thread anyway.

    I can't believe I didn't saw this coming. Of course Ansom wouldn't bother to bring his siege to a fight on the open! They were just an excuse for an illusion, hiding the trie threat: massive freaking airforce. Led by none other than da Joker!

    So, who else things they'll just fly over the bridge hex and strike directly at the capital? Perhaps make a fast fly by attack to capture the valuable enemy casters, then go and take the capital.

    After all, they seem to have deployed pretty much all their elite troops defending the bridge hex.

    UNLESS Super man is doing a bluff. He says he's got the casters just to try to scare off Ansom. Then the real force is at the capital, waiting to destroy them.

    Also we cannot forget Jillian's secret mission. Perhaps she's the ambush force, lying somewhere in waiting to strike directly at Wanda.

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    just got finished reading the series. it came highly recommended from a friend, and shall be further recommended to all my other friends.

    i even caught myself trying to explain some of the humor to my wife... not near as well recieved as it might have been, but that just affirms my faith in this comic even more. i think if everyone " got it" it wouldn't be nearly as special to me.

    Great job all around, it was a wonderfully done comic and an inspiration personally
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    You know, I gotta say, I finished reading Erfworld and most of time I really don't understand what they're saying, it's like one sentence doesn't connect to the other.

    I can't explain it, maybe I'll get a few examples to try and figure it out.

    Granted, english isn't my native language, but my problem is not in understanding the words, I have a fairly decent grasp on that.

    Anyway, anyone else ever felt lost in one of those comics?

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    I'm not sure what your native language is, so this might not be a problem, but are you reading in the right direction?

    No matter how many times I read non-flipped manga, I always spend at least 4 or 5 pages reading the wrong way before I realize it.
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