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2009-05-28, 01:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
you heard me, what if these two super-morally defunct masterminds somehow fought each other?
Light Yagami only has his Death Note
Lelouch Lamperouge, only his Geass.
who would win?
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2009-05-28, 02:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Lulu wears a mask, a plethoria of pseudonyms, and odds are the public knowledge of Kira's powers. Light has eyes, and no database to call upon to know about Geass, let alone how to combat it. The Deathnote cannot be used to kill anyone other than those who's name is written in it. It depends on the specifics of the situation, but I'm going to have to swing in favor of the leader of the Black Knights over the serial killer with his personality cult of moneygrubbing hypocrites.
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2009-05-28, 02:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
For me, it would depend on one variable.
If it's a straight up fight, it'd be more balanced and I might see Lelouch just edging it out, since he has more practice with being out smarted and finding ways around those instances to lead himself & his allies into an advantageous move. Whereas for most of the series, Light ultimately won out.
That one variable is if Light has the Shinigami Eyes or has Misa at his side. If he does, ole Zero is gone the first time he mocks Kira via a televised showing.Last edited by FerhagoRosewood; 2009-05-28 at 02:10 AM.
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2009-05-28, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
I'll side with Lelouch. Sure, if Light knew his name and what he looked like he'd have no trouble, but in any other situation Lelouch wins. Also, Lelouch is a cooler character.
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2009-05-28, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Hm. By the rules laid out in the opening post, Lelouch doesn't have his Zero identity, the Black Knights, or his true identity as a Britannian Prince to fall back on - meaning no mask and no aliases, unless he decides to take them up in his attempts to defeat Kira. Likewise, Light doesn't have his cult-like following or, by the specific rules, Shinigami eyes or any other supernatural help.
This is difficult to decide in a vacuum, since while I could see why Zero and Kira would oppose each other, I really have no idea why two shmuck high school students with no personal connection would bother trying.
Let's say Light gets his notebook and begins his crusade on crime, and Lelouch gets the Geass and tries to stop Kira. The first thing Lelouch does is Geass a member of the police team investigating Kira into giving him access to their evidence files. Actually, given Lulu's phenomenal bad luck, let's say he Geasses Light himself after he starts working with the police - this will prevent any easy Geass solutions in the endgame, and this is a crossover between two of the most needlessly convoluted shows ever, so we should make it complex and fun. Lelouch can therefore get his hands on the evidence that largely points to Light, and he doesn't have L's compunction of being 100% certain before making a move - however, Light can also notice Lelouch mucking about in police files after the initial Geass wears off, and will probably eliminate him...but not until he finds out how Lelouch got access to the information in the first place (since he doesn't remember giving it to him).
I'm thinking endgame here is that Lelouch geasses L into arresting Light (and he'll almost certainly be convicted once arrested): at the same time, Light writes in the Death Note that Lelouch will leave a note describing how he got access to police records under a bench, then throw himself under a truck.
Draw.Last edited by Nerd-o-rama; 2009-05-28 at 03:48 AM.
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2009-05-28, 03:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-05-28, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-05-28, 04:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Lelouch, for so very many reasons, but in the end it comes down to the same thing that led to Light's defeat in Death Note: like L, Lelouch is willing to die in pursuit of his goals, and Light isn't.
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2009-05-28, 06:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
First, in a setting where Britannia exists, I doubt Light would need to look up someone whose surname is Vi Britannia.
Second, Light is far more likely to discover the name Lelouch Lamperouge, then get overconfident and try to write that in his Death Note right in front of Lelouch or something.
Lelouch recovers from a loss better than a Light. Misa needs to see Lelouch's eyes to find his name, in which case he can Geass her, but Zero can use the eyeslit to Geass people without exposing his name.
Geass instructions probably overrule Death Note instructions, in that they change the target's normal behaviour. If Lelouch finds out that someone is going to be targeted by Kira for a "complex death", he could Geass them to make the circumstances impossible - this might alert L or even make Light think that his Death Note is malfunctioning somehow.
The Black Knights are a pretty big advantage - they usually keep their faces covered, and Zero can simply blow up the houses of anyone he suspects of being Kira.
Here's another factor which no-one appears to have considered: Geass can affect anything. Including shinigami.
If it came down to hand-to-hand combat, of course, with both characters' faces covered, Light would win hands-down.Last edited by Prime32; 2009-05-28 at 06:20 AM.
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
the opening is a bit too vague and rather unfair for me. I think it's better with a scenario:
Zero and the Black Knights are terrorist, and Light as the leader of Japan's special investigation team is trying to catch him, while as kira, he's trying to kill him. Both got team, secret headquarter, hamminess, semi loyal supernatural friend (though lelouch kinda win here. CC > Any shinigami), secret identity, and reason to fight each other.
That works better for vs thread, I think.You got Magic Mech in My Police Procedural!
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I had this Light v. Lelouch fanfic idea where it turns out that Watari's real name is Kelsey Wayne, and his late father invented the Druid System to predict the movements of criminals. Wammy's House was founded to find a successor to his father.
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Watari is understandably interested in anyone who would wear a mask and cape, calling themselves a "Black Knight"Last edited by Prime32; 2009-05-28 at 08:17 AM.
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
That is unfair Nerdo. I'm a fangirl and i'd vastly prefer Kallen/Misa over Lulu/Light. At least as Misa shut up and restricted herself to looking cute and we didn't have to listen to her annoying voice and mindless comments.
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Light:
Aha! It's over. I know your true history and your real name!
(writes Lelouch vi Britannia in Death Note) *nothing happens* Dammit!
(writes Rerouch vi Britannia in Death Note) *nothing happens* Dammit!
(writes Lerouch vi Britannia in Death Note) *nothing happens* Dammit...
(writes Relouch vi Britannia in Death Note) *nothing happens* *grumble*...
Lelouch:
(while Light is furiously writing, wanders over and reads: The human whose name is written in this note shall die.) Interesting.
(looks at Light) I command you: write your own name into the Death Note.
Light:
Dammit!... (writes own name) *dies*
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Hmf. Your mistake... was the inherent problems involved in localization of Britannian loanwords into Japanese katakana and back into the Latin alphabet. In addition to the difficulties involved with the whole R/L component, you failed to realize that the Britannian language adds letters for no good reason. I mean, FLEIJA? What's up with that? Where is there a J in "Field Limitary Effective Implosion Armament"? What does Limitary even mean? Seriously. Stupid language...
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2009-05-28, 11:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Huh. Twenty minutes ago I just got done watching volume 1 of Code Geas.
The difference between the two seems to be that Lelouch is better at thinking on his feet and dealing with crises as they come up, while in times like that Light flounders or gets lucky."Once you go scaly, you'll be back daily!"
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2009-05-28, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
lol blue paladin
i would go with lelouch. he can and wouldn't have a problem with commanding a good chunk of the city to find light. in addition to his insurmountable advantage in a personal encounter.Last edited by thubby; 2009-05-28 at 11:49 AM.
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Hm... I might be a little preoccupied, but I'd put all of my money on Lulu,
Though, first of, I'd favor a more CG like setting. Kira having reached a level of godlike being (Just as planned!) and Lelouch is trying to free the world from his grasp. Kira would have the advantage of a massive intelligence network, but Lulu the ability to stay hidden with his Zero identitiy.
In a one-onn-one match as in the opening post Kira would fail utterly cause he doesn't know Lulu's name and would be killed in mere seconds. 'Lelouche vi Brittania commands you: Die!'
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@Blue Paladin:
Also, Light can't fire beams from his eyes.
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2009-05-28, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Well, Light's Modus Operandi usually precludes being in the presence of his victim, so I don't see the Geass really being a factor here.
Nevermind that I'm not actually familiar with that particular anime for some reason.
So, I'm more inclined to call this a stalemate.
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Whoever aquires a handgun first wins, since both of their powers require at least a few seconds to come to fruition. It takes time to write someones name or form a command. Less time to pull a trigger if you sneak up behind them.
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Yes, yes indeed. Norio Wakamoto is Japan's answer to BRIAN BLESSED! And then some! (Some probably including Steve Blum and James Earl Jones)
...He also "sung" Motteke! Sailor Fuku!Last edited by Mando Knight; 2009-05-28 at 08:29 PM.
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Re: Lelouch Lamperouge Vs. Light Yagami
Not if that series is Monster. But an extra yes yes if that series is Nanoha.
And to get back on topic... I really have no idea. There are so many ways the situation could go, and I don't know if this new universe Lelouch is in hates his guts, so I really don't know what the Random Number God will decide...Kyonko avatar by Elder Tsofu. Revere them.
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