Twilight - Love it, or Hate it?

[Haruki-kun]

I was drinking a coke when I saw this. Damn it!

[Prime32]

No, no, Twilight is slammed for a lot more than that...

And so is the Inheritance Cycle, but that's not my point.

(Incidentally, I found the Inheritance Cycle rather entertaining. Well, the first two books of it anyway.)

[HPsauce]

i my conclusion Twilight as a film is crap and Twilight as a book is a little bit better than the film, am i correct with the mojority?

[DamnedIrishman]

i my conclusion Twilight as a film is crap and Twilight as a book is a little bit better than the film, am i correct with the mojority?

Unless you're a Mormon.

source

[HPsauce]

Now that is a bit harsh and thats coming from a desent of a irsh woman.
anyway i was right yah me

[thegurullamen]

The human body is made up of billions of individual atoms. If the word HATE was stamped on every single one of them, it would not express one-billionth of a percentage of the loathing I feel for this series.

(Bonus points for guessing the reference!)

You know what would save vampires as literary characters? A short story from Harlan Ellison. Nihilism and horrible, horrible things happening to people described in the bleakest ways imaginable = perfect.

[The Dark Fiddler]

No, no, Twilight is slammed for a lot more than that...

One of the things being Bella's abusive relationship with Edward. Which pretty much every Twilight fangirl wants to emulate. Sad really, Twilight is sounding like a book trying to get women back to belonging to men. I hate it even more now, through my own fault.

[Dragonus45]

Y'know, there was a time I thought Anne Rice was the nadir of vampire writing, the lowest possible, responsible for the destruction of the entire image. God help me, I miss LeStat. LeStat had style, LeStat was cool, and HE SURE AS HELL DIDN'T SPARKLE.

Can i sig you for that?

[HPsauce]

I bet there is a group of girls right now kissing Edward cardboard cut outs or something and they have a shrine

[Kane]

The human body is made up of billions of individual atoms. If the word HATE was stamped on every single one of them, it would not express one-billionth of a percentage of the loathing I feel for this series.

(Bonus points for guessing the reference!)

I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, if I'm not mistaken.

And... I haven't read it, but isn't that a bit... excessive, considering the context of what you're referencing?



Really, I'm not to fond of vampire protagonists. About the only one I happily put up with is Thomas, of the Dresden Files, and that's because his 'curse of awesome' actually sucks, as far as he's concerned.

[chiasaur11]

You know what would save vampires as literary characters? A short story from Harlan Ellison. Nihilism and horrible, horrible things happening to people described in the bleakest ways imaginable = perfect.

Look. If Mike Mignola writing a whole novel of Vamps as flesh eating nightmares that caused the 1918 influenza epidemic didn't do any good for the public perception, I doubt one short story (no matter how good, morbid, nihilistic and horrible it is) can do the job by itself.

Heck, the trend other than Twilight was going all the way to "Nightmarish murder machines with so... many... teeth". It's a shame.

[DamnedIrishman]

What we need is fiction that portrays vampires as slightly pathetic desperate haemovores with no other powers that pointy canines, to lose some of their coolth.

[Collin152]

The books? Garbage. But, useful garbage.
Why?
In a way that is in no way flattering, personality wise, I resemble Edward Cullen. Yes, I'm creepy, overbearing, and borderline sociopathic. But? This happens to be exactly what the boys who want Edward want. Well, that and frigid, white skin and no pulse. I'm still working on those. I'm getting close, too.

[Narmoth]

meh, seems I have no choice but to actually draw my "midnight hobo" -vampire comic that I gave up because it took all to long to draw

[DamnedIrishman]

meh, seems I have no choice but to actually draw my "midnight hobo" -vampire comic that I gave up because it took all to long to draw

Or just script it and convince someone else to draw it for you.

It worked for Neil Gaiman, and now he's up to his neck in goth chicks.

[Dragonus45]

Goth chicks, tell me more.

[DamnedIrishman]

Write the equivalent of this and they'll be all over you.

[Narmoth]

Or just script it and convince someone else to draw it for you.

It worked for Neil Gaiman, and now he's up to his neck in goth chicks.

Nah, I'll just take the time.
I think I'll be able to do the introduction/first chapter, and maybe the 2nd chapter this summer. Maybe another chapter around Christmas

[Nameless]

Twilight is for 12-14 year old female Goth-wannabe’s who think that being a Goth is all about being sad and miserable. All these people care about in a book is for it to have a hawt guy.
Ladies, if you want some fictional sex, go to Google and search “Hentai”. I promise you that this will be much more sexually pleasing then reading an abomination to fantasy/horror/love/vampire novels.

Anyone else who is not the type of person I described above just has a bad taste in books.

Twilight is to novels what My Immortal is to fan-fics.

There, I've said it.

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That was a joke by the way, don't take it personally.

[DamnedIrishman]

Twilight is for 12-14 year old female Goth-wannabe’s who think that being a Goth is all about being sad and miserable. All these people care about in a book is for it to have a hawt guy.
Ladies, if you want some fictional sex, go to Google and search “Hentai”. I promise you that this will be much more sexually pleasing then reading an abomination to fantasy/horror/love/vampire novels.

Anyone else who is not the type of person I described above just has a bad taste in books.

Twilight is to novels what My Immortal is to fan-fics.

There, I've said it.

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That was a joke by the way, don't take it personally.

If they were after fictional sex, they wouldn't be reading Twhylight would they?

[Collin152]

If they were after fictional sex, they wouldn't be reading Twhylight would they?

Right, Twilight is all about fictional notsex, with vaguely arousing almost sensual dialogue. I mean, they occaisionally had skin to skin contact! Outrageous!

[DamnedIrishman]

Right, Twilight is all about fictional notsex, with vaguely arousing almost sensual dialogue. I mean, they occaisionally had skin to skin contact! Outrageous!

And the sex that eventually occurs in the series leaves our heroine covered in painful bruises. Because that's what the modern woman wants from her lover.

[Nameless]

Right, Twilight is all about fictional notsex, with vaguely arousing almost sensual dialogue. I mean, they occaisionally had skin to skin contact! Outrageous!

Yes but sex is expected from that book. And have you red the sexual scenes? The words used to describe it are horrible.

[FoE]

If they were after fictional vampire sex, they wouldn't be reading Twilight would they?

No, they could read Anita Blake for that.

[Prime32]

Really, I'm not to fond of vampire protagonists. About the only one I happily put up with is Thomas, of the Dresden Files, and that's because his 'curse of awesome' actually sucks, as far as he's concerned.

Try the Saga of Darren Shan for a realistic/gritty take. I'll admit he's not the best storyteller, but the setting is interesting and I enjoyed the stories as a kid. His vampires are basically Klingons. With all the culture and abilities of Klingons. Except for slowly dying in sunlight (bad sunburn after a few minutes, progresses to incapacitating pain after an hour at most).

They can die in the same ways as humans, though they are quite a bit tougher. Many of the beliefs like "can't enter a house uninvited" or "can only be killed by a stake through the heart" are explained as distorted versions of various aspects of their culture (they use pits of stakes in executions). One character recalls an attempt to kill a sleeping vampire with a stake - the pain woke the vampire up, and he nearly killed his assailant before bleeding to death.

[Collin152]

And the sex that eventually occurs in the series leaves our heroine covered in painful bruises. Because that's what the modern woman wants from her lover.

To say nothing of the fact that said lover is also a frozen, unliving killer fighting off the urge to kill her. Really, as often as she describes him as a statue, she must have some kind of sexual abnormality.

[Raistlin1040]

Twilight is for 12-14 year old female Goth-wannabe’s who think that being a Goth is all about being sad and miserable. All these people care about in a book is for it to have a hawt guy.
Ladies, if you want some fictional sex, go to Google and search “Hentai”. I promise you that this will be much more sexually pleasing then reading an abomination to fantasy/horror/love/vampire novels.

Anyone else who is not the type of person I described above just has a bad taste in books.

Twilight is to novels what My Immortal is to fan-fics.

There, I've said it.

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That was a joke by the way, don't take it personally.

No. You do not bring Goth into this. It's an *Emo* wannabe's paradise.

[Erts]

What we need is fiction that portrays vampires as slightly pathetic desperate haemovores with no other powers that pointy canines, to lose some of their coolth.

Exactly!
These books play to some strange side in the depths of teen girls mind (no offense.)
Also, they defy logic in several strange ways.
Think about. Isn't a heartbeat needed to do certain acts? Mainly, breed?
Think about it.

They also have the most unrealistic charecters I have ever seen.
The sad thing is, while this has gotten many teen girls reading again, it means they will continue to read these books.

[Collin152]

Also, they defy logic in several strange ways.
Think about. Isn't a heartbeat needed to do certain acts? Mainly, breed?
Think about it.

Nah, Edward was always described as beign as hard as rock.
Ba dum tis.

[DamnedIrishman]

No. You do not bring Goth into this. It's an *Emo* wannabe's paradise.

No, it's a wannabe-Goth* and a fully-fledged emo's paradise.

SUBCULTURE ELITISM! WOO!




*Twilight is why they're wannabe's and not actual Goths...