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    Yes vaporization transmutes the matter into dust.
    A spell that protects you from transmutation does not protect you from heat.

    Otherwise your temperature would be that of the absolute zero.
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    Protection from Heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megadoomer45 View Post
    Yes vaporization transmutes the matter into dust.
    No, lasers burn stuff (really fast) which isn't classified as transmutation, by the way wouldn't transmutation be a mutation? (I've heard the X-gene been mentioned as a transmutation)

    That aside; The lasers aren't magical thus spells to protect you against a kind of magic shouldn't work against them
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    Protection from Heat.
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    When the spell absorbs 12 points per caster level of energy damage (to a maximum of 120 points at 10th level), it is discharged.
    Don't tell me lasers capable of cutting directly through "9 feet of adamantine" in a few second can't surpass that meagre "120 points of damage".

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    All of the casters combine their strength to cast one extra powerful Protection from Heat.
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    All of the casters combine their strength to cast one extra powerful Protection from Heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megadoomer45 View Post
    All of the casters combine their strength to cast one extra powerful Protection from Heat.
    The power of the laser would still be stronger even if they where given time to research a way to combine the spells. There's also a high probability that the ships have some sort of anti-magic defences, besides the lasers can keep on firing but the mages can't remake the spell that quick (since the spell takes at least 6 seconds to cast then it should be stronger than six seconds of laser fire, which I highly doubt)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post

    At first, it was the smiley faces and the mannerisms. Then, it was the infernal magpie. It struck a chord. A cutely fiendish, macabre chord.

    An then I saw Keveak in the sorting hat and you are just the cutest thing when you want to be. My gosh look at that. It's squee-inducing.

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    @Megadoomer: That's so petty. You're like Randomizer, always saying your characters a more powerful than everybody else and will challenge everyone who says something to the contrary by adding them additional powers.
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    Unless the lasers fire at the speed of light (probably, considering that a laser is just condensed light and whatnot) it would be easy to dodge seeing as it goes in a mostly strait line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Szilard View Post
    Unless the lasers fire at the speed of light (probably, considering that a laser is just condensed light and whatnot) it would be easy to dodge seeing as it goes in a mostly strait line.
    All lasers do move at the speed of light. You can't see them before they hit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szilard View Post
    Unless the lasers fire at the speed of light (probably, considering that a laser is just condensed light and whatnot) it would be easy to dodge seeing as it goes in a mostly strait line.
    Er...don't lasers have to fire at the speed of light?

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    Er...don't lasers have to fire at the speed of light?
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    Default Re: Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XXIV: What is this "Haste" you speak of?

    Might I counter you argument, MM, by adding that you have made all tajiran ships force which nothing could logically defeat, merely slow down. Now who has gone overboard with powers, eh?

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    Yes, but it isn't as armoured as the Sovereign and can't take out Alphantican ships as easily as its sister ship (no torpedoes). The two complemented each other: the Yamato had lasers against air and ground targets, and the Sovereign had torpedoes against naval targets.
    Can't the other ships in the fleet fill in? The main opponent now is the Citadel anyway. It has the PCs in.

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    Lasers. And it wasn't an explosion, but a combustion.
    Got me terminology wrong. So the lasers concentrated on each sphere, and ignited the occupants?

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    There are spells that protect against transmutation spells pal.
    They protect against spells, technology is not magic. Very different principles.

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    Protection from Heat.
    It's "Protection from Energy (Fire)", by the way.
    And lasers do non-elemental damage according to the DMG, so you're out of luck there.

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    Might I counter you argument, MM, by adding that you have made all tajiran ships force which nothing could logically defeat, merely slow down. Now who has gone overboard with powers, eh?
    Squark destroyed one. Besides, they're a thing of Plot.
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    RIP identical duskblade drones with blond-hair and grey robes.
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    Star Wars.
    The weapon in Star Wars aren't lasers. They're blasters. Blasters fire bolts of noisy glowy stuff, while lasers are silent (except for the cooling noise) and almost invisible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim ranger View Post
    Might I counter you argument, MM, by adding that you have made all tajiran ships force which nothing could logically defeat, merely slow down. Now who has gone overboard with powers, eh?
    The ships aren't supposed to be fighted by the PCs, all you need is heavy weapons (like the Citadel) like in real life and he himself blew up their best weaponry.
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    At first, it was the smiley faces and the mannerisms. Then, it was the infernal magpie. It struck a chord. A cutely fiendish, macabre chord.

    An then I saw Keveak in the sorting hat and you are just the cutest thing when you want to be. My gosh look at that. It's squee-inducing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Mask View Post
    The weapon in Star Wars aren't lasers. They're blasters. Blasters fire bolts of noisy glowy stuff, while lasers are silent (except for the cooling noise) and almost invisible.
    Actually, several weapons in Star Wars are canonically lasers, not blasters. But as they operate by the same visual effects, so either the galaxy far, far away has different physical laws, or the so called "lasers" are merely blasters with the plasma excited by an internal laser.

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    If I might so bold as to ask, where the heck are you getting the massive amounts of energy used to power all those laser batteries/turrets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch View Post
    If I might so bold as to ask, where the heck are you getting the massive amounts of energy used to power all those laser batteries/turrets?
    Don't the Tajira have some nuclear power like stuff not to mention being able to power it themselves?

    Oh, and a scientist/alchemist did it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post

    At first, it was the smiley faces and the mannerisms. Then, it was the infernal magpie. It struck a chord. A cutely fiendish, macabre chord.

    An then I saw Keveak in the sorting hat and you are just the cutest thing when you want to be. My gosh look at that. It's squee-inducing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch View Post
    If I might so bold as to ask, where the heck are you getting the massive amounts of energy used to power all those laser batteries/turrets?
    Here you go.

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    That aside; The lasers aren't magical thus spells to protect you against a kind of magic shouldn't work against them
    Here's my rationale:

    The lasers are made of energetic light.
    The shields are transparent.

    Therefore, the shields are allowing light to pass through them.

    Since light passes through the shields (Albeit slightly reduced because they aren't fully transparent) the lasers can pass through them as well.

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    How much is a "Dol"?
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    Here's my rationale:

    The lasers are made of energetic light.
    The shields are transparent.

    Therefore, the shields are allowing light to pass through them.

    Since light passes through the shields (Albeit slightly reduced because they aren't fully transparent) the lasers can pass through them as well.
    Does that mean invisibility makes you immune to lasers
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    At first, it was the smiley faces and the mannerisms. Then, it was the infernal magpie. It struck a chord. A cutely fiendish, macabre chord.

    An then I saw Keveak in the sorting hat and you are just the cutest thing when you want to be. My gosh look at that. It's squee-inducing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon View Post
    Here's my rationale:

    The lasers are made of energetic light.
    The shields are transparent.

    Therefore, the shields are allowing light to pass through them.

    Since light passes through the shields (Albeit slightly reduced because they aren't fully transparent) the lasers can pass through them as well.
    I thought the same way.

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    How much is a "Dol"?
    Dol is a Sovice unit of energy measurement, it's approximately about a gigawatt.
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    Does that mean invisibility makes you immune to lasers
    Depending on how they actually make you invisible (Ie. only if they make you 100% transparent), yes.
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    Default Re: Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XXIV: What is this "Haste" you speak of?

    Isn't invisibility an illusion ?

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    Ah, good old exploitative loophole power. The other renewable energy source.

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    How much is a "Dol"?
    About 4 Dol is a Pikalite's energy output.
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    I thought the same way.
    I thought the spell just wouldn't effect something not included in it's effect (protection from cold would have no effect on neither a torch nor a stone)
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    At first, it was the smiley faces and the mannerisms. Then, it was the infernal magpie. It struck a chord. A cutely fiendish, macabre chord.

    An then I saw Keveak in the sorting hat and you are just the cutest thing when you want to be. My gosh look at that. It's squee-inducing.

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