Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XXV: The Future (Imperfect) is...Soon

[Szilard]

Page Two!

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Is anyone here?

Hello! (Hello! Hello!)

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Lame, gotta read through like 8 pages.

Also, does anyone notice anything weird about this image?

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I wouldn't stare at it too long btw.

Incase you saw it, it's a jpeg, not a gif. Check yourself.

[memnarch]

Dizzying!

[Nehh]

Can someone keep Atem alive? Please?

Also, I tried adding him to the wiki but the formatting went strange and it won't make a page.

[Mina Kobold]

Lame, gotta read through like 8 pages.

Also, does anyone notice anything weird about this image?

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I wouldn't stare at it too long btw.

Incase you saw it, it's a jpeg, not a gif. Check for yourself.

Yay! it looks funny Got any others?

@Squark: ALF is not extremely amoral, they are trying to save the world from Ins evil plan to destroy it (though not even the players know if the plan exist) yes it's filled with criminals but don't say being too amoral for it is hard.

You got the lawyers, politicians and conspiracy cover-up people anyway

[Mad Mask]

He was talking about a specific front of the ALF that was extremely amoral and incompetent, who was kicked out of the resistance for those reason.

[Mina Kobold]

He was talking about a specific front of the ALF that was extremely amoral and incompetent, who was kicked out of the resistance for those reason.

But commewnted on it being hard to be too amoral for the ALF.

[Lyinginbedmon]

But commewnted on it being hard to be too amoral for the ALF.

In my day you could quite happily manage to fight against an oppressive regime without somehow becoming a better allegory for Satan than the regime itself.

[Mina Kobold]

In my day you could quite happily manage to fight against an oppressive regime without somehow becoming a better allegory for Satan than the regime itself.

You can't fight the UNA without dirty methods?

Well if not then excuse me while I discover nuclear warfare (can't be too hard we got magic and quite likely there exist previous research, I bet we can do it quicker than the few years it took the US)

[Lemming]

Well if not then excuse me while I discover nuclear warfare (can't be too hard we got magic and quite likely there exist previous research, I bet we can do it quicker than the few years it took the US)

I don't think the Sovice would let you.

[Mad Mask]

You can't fight the UNA without dirty methods?

Well if not then excuse me while I discover nuclear warfare (can't be too hard we got magic and quite likely there exist previous research, I bet we can do it quicker than the few years it took the US)

So that's why in Salmon's future the world became a big wasteland !

[Mina Kobold]

I don't think the Sovice would let you.

How would they know what a bunch of scientists and madmen are doing in the hidden headquarter of a resistance that's nowhere near being defeated.

So that's why in Salmon's future the world became a big wasteland !

Except that neither Keveak nor his sons would do it (at least not on purpose but you never know) and that the UNA could do it far quicker and better (see the difference between the suit build in the cave and the one build in Stark industries)... The UNA researching it to get rid of the ALF (remember that in real life it's actual strength was unknown until it was use, it could destroy a few buildings or maybe the entire human civilisation nobody knew) would be agood plot point though (and lead to that wasteland)

[Lemming]

How would they know what a bunch of scientists and madmen are doing in the hidden headquarter of a resistance that's nowhere near being defeated.

Obviously because Lying's Sovice poison is also designed so they can spy on us.
Haven't you heard? It's the latest conspiracy.

[Mad Mask]

no, actualy it's hriky who spys on teh ALF end make they do hainous things him's also teh on who poyson Mynoblendi end is in fakt a Sovis on discuise

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[Mina Kobold]

Obviously because Lying's Sovice poison is also designed so they can spy on us.
Haven't you heard? It's the latest conspiracy.

Keveak's the only one from the shade killing team in his department and even he hasn't seen Lying since that (mind you he would have if Lying hadn't been sick since before he joined ALF and his colleagues aren't important enough) so even if that's true then he could still hide it.

[Squark]

He was talking about a specific front of the ALF that was extremely amoral and incompetent, who was kicked out of the resistance for those reason.

I don't know, I'd consider Chriky fairly amoral. A well-intentioned terrorist is, nonetheless, a terrorist.

[Mina Kobold]

no, actualy it's hriky who spys on teh ALF end make they do hainous things him's also teh on who poyson Mynoblendi end is in fakt a Sovis on discuise

-Brought to you by INSincere.

Great thing 30% of the stuff in the department is marked "No idea what this is but you gotta be really crazy to test it" and that their labs are rigged to explode in case of treachery You'll never catch us in this world (try the one over there between 4PM and 6AM)

I don't know, I'd consider Chriky fairly amoral. A well-intentioned terrorist is, nonetheless, a terrorist.

Terrorists are what the other side calls freedom fighters. What the Germans called terrorists during the war was among others the Danish resistance.
Besides he hasn't done anything to harm the people like blowing up civilians, you must be thinking of Vampire Rot or Remus.

[Squark]

Er... Didn't he blow up the hotel Karen Dewey's family was in?

[Mina Kobold]

Er... Didn't he blow up the hotel Karen Dewey's family was in?

Er... I think there was a lot of enemy politicians in there. Besides England bombed Copenhagen (the capital) simply for being under German control during WW2 and they aren't considered amoral so why should ALF for bombing one building?

[BRC]

Er... I think there was a lot of enemy politicians in there. Besides England bombed Copenhagen (the capital) simply for being under German control during WW2 and they aren't considered amoral so why should ALF for bombing one building?

That alone isn't why they are considered Amoral. That one bombing is simply why Keren Dewey personally hates them so much.

[The Gremlin]

These weapons can be wielded by normal humans as well.

Um...why? Wouldn't it be better if the guns were unusable by a human, so that if the Dettas are destroyed, the enemy doesn't get more ammo and stuff?

[BRC]

Um...why? Wouldn't it be better if the guns were unusable by a human, so that if the Dettas are destroyed, the enemy doesn't get more ammo and stuff?

The UNA has plenty of ammunition and firearms, which tend to be superior to the Detta's weapons anyway. This way if the Dettas are destroyed, ALF members can use the guns in question. It also means that, rather than manufacturing two types of guns, one for dettas, and one for humans, Ven only has to build one type of weapon for both.

[Mad Mask]

Er... I think there was a lot of enemy politicians in there. Besides England bombed Copenhagen (the capital) simply for being under German control during WW2 and they aren't considered amoral so why should ALF for bombing one building?

That's because the winners write history (for England).

The hotel contained mostly rich people and their families. The few targets that were eliminated don't represent a great percentage against the amount of other innocent people and children killed. A few puppies and kittens also died in the explosion.

Chriky also bombed other buildings containing innocents, which doesn't help.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Chriky also bombed other buildings containing innocents, which doesn't help.

Of course.

Oh Chriky. When will you ever learn? No matter how hard you try, you will always fail horribly.

*has no idea what the hell anybody was talking about*

[Mina Kobold]

That's because the winners write history (for England).

The hotel contained mostly rich people and their families. The few targets that were eliminated don't represent a great percentage against the amount of other innocent people and children killed. A few puppies and kittens also died in the explosion.

Chriky also bombed other buildings containing innocents, which doesn't help.

So? That doesn't mean it weren't a bad thing to do, it just mean that during wartime it is okay to kill many innocent people if it's for a good reason (Germany could reach Sweden and it's precious iron through Denmark so killing a couple of thousand civilians in the process of stopping them is perfectly fine) I'm not saying Chriky's actions are good just that it wouldn't be considered amoral if it was done during wartime which it is, if he did it spontaneously in peacetime or without a reason then yes but with one during wartime and it's okay You know what? screw that I still think it's bad (I agree with you know )

[Threeshades]

Dibs on the next Art thread!

[Mad Mask]

Dibs on the next Art thread!

Shades of Gray already called it a long time ago, I think.

[Wreckingrocc]

Then, since they're being ridiculous and are bickering, I think it's only fair that I, one of the most important contributors to ABR, who devotes his life to making it work, should get dibs on it.

[Mina Kobold]

Shades of Gray already called it a long time ago, I think.

He did.

By the way isn't Greek week over?