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2006-06-26, 01:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Well this is neat special. Loads of clips from the new movie and past shows, movies and cartoons. It tries to explain how Superman could actually function using real world physics, and pretty hefty dose of pseudo-science. Very cool.
One of the keys about Krypton's explosion is that it has a massively dense core made of elements like uranium and plutonium. So it exploded because of a fission reaction.
And he can fly because Supes can produce gravitons. This is of course total quantum physics so it up in the air. Eh, eh. ;D
Whats also neat is all of Superman's flight in the new film is based on Brandon Routh swimming or gliding underwater.
Edit (this will be the first of many): I've official decided the coolest thing that I've seen so far for Superman Returns is him walking up to a thug firing a chaingun at him and bullets just bouncing off Supe's chest. The the thug draws a pistol and shoots him point blank in the eye and you see the bullet just crumple and Supe's doesn't even blink as he watches the bullet hit the ground and just sort of ***** his head with that knowing look.
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2006-06-26, 01:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Beleriphon
Hey! I invented the graviton explanation years ago! Glad to see that it's hit the mainstream finally!Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-26, 01:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by Beleriphon
A comic in which they discuss the science of this http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/no...ffn/ffn164.htm
(also a good nerdy D&D themed comic to read but only updates once a week :( )Ceikatar
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2006-06-26, 01:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by CelestialStick
I don't think its main stream yet, but the show covered just about everything he does. The heat vision is just expending stored energy through his eyes which form a lens, like a laser. Hisi imperviousness is akin to an insects shell, which I felt was odd. At any rate its really neat when they try to explain what he does in terms of real science.
Whats also cool is the interview pieces with Bryan Singer where he explains some of his logic for the new movie. Like Supes breaking the wing off the airliner. Its an accident after he tries to stop its flat spin first.
At any rate its a great look at the new movie, and a fun thought experiment.
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2006-06-26, 03:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by BeleriphonHUMANS....... ARE....... SUPERIORRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But she was naked! And all... articulate!!
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2006-06-26, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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i can bet the work vibrate and molecules were used over 500000000000000 times...like in the comics
so what about the eye balls? does he have an extra protective lense?
i like the superhard chiton explanation for his unbreakability...that's a keeper
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2006-06-26, 08:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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When was this aired?
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2006-06-26, 10:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by Beleriphon
Did you know that in the first episode of The Adventures of Superman they put George Reeve on a wire to make him appear to fly, and then the wire broke? He was very angry about that so he refused to ever go on a wire again--thus the trademark "landing" jump at the end of any scene with him flying: he was actually just jumping up and they filmed him coming back down as though he were landing.
Edit: Look Ma, no hands, er, wires!
I checked Yahoo tv and didn't find a repeat airing of the Science of Superman. Of course if it had a different name...
Edit 2: I checked again under "Superman" and found nothing on Discovery. Several other networks, however, have programs about the new movie.
I'm going to see the show Wednesday at 6:30 P.M. Is anyone else going soon?Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-27, 03:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm I liked the limited force field that I read about somewhere it's connected his other qualities but alas if they want to say that a super hard invisible chitinous layer above his skin exists and that causes a bullet to act the way it does when it hits him then I must mention that this makes no sense the bullet would not crumple before bouncing off oh and also even if the bullet itself poses no threat it would still exert force on him after all if we had such a layer which is thin enough to notbe detected we would get bruised by the bullet so perhaps his whole skin is like that and is also otherwise exactlly alike to a humans skin hmm and it also in the case of his eyes is not only usable for sight but also have a convinient lense to focus it
http://www.firstscience.com/site/articles/superman.asp
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopi...superman.shtml
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archi...06/20/513.aspx
http://superherohype.com/forums/arch.../t-144270.html
http://www.starnet-database.com/dbas.../superman.html
http://www.pjfarmer.com/secret/aliens/kryptonians.htm
some interesting links
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2006-06-27, 05:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by CelestialStick
The other suggestion as to his appearent imperviousness has to do with the graviton theory of flight. His body automatically exudes the gravitons in such a way as to redirect objects, or allow them, at a reflexive level.
As for the movie, deinately going to see it on Wednesday. I already have tickets for the 6:50pm local showing. I don't know how but we appearently have a showing at 10pm on the 27th as well, a fully day before it opens otherwise.
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2006-06-27, 08:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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saw a comercial for it. on the science chanel
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2006-06-27, 10:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Beleriphon
O Canada
Glorious and free!
O Canada we stand on guard for thee!
Yes, we have a 10 PM show (right now actually!) and a midnight show but I couldn't get a buddy of mine to go with so I'm waiting til tomorrow at 6:30. He has to work a real job and the last time we went to see a midnight movie he had a serious problem staying awake at work the next day.
Too bad that Allanon fellow can't use punctuation. Of course he is just a pale imitation of Gandalf. :DTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-27, 10:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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The complaint I have about real world physics from the movie isn't Superman. It's Lois.
She gets hurled around in a plane, doesn't get a bruise, doesn't go unconscious, nearly drowns a few times, and gets attacked by a thug. Is she the woman of steel or something!?
P.S. I saw an early screening of it at 5 PM. It is over 2 and a half hours long.Groom to the Haberdasher's Daughter.
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2006-06-27, 10:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
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2006-06-28, 12:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by TinSoldier
Here come the Hawk!
The mighty...Blackhawks!
Edit: In those days most of the best hockey players were Canadians. Sadly, they were all pretty toothless too. :DTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-28, 12:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
I watch the Portland Winterhawks, which are affiliated (however loosely) with the Chicago Blackhawks. They have the same team symbol. They say "Heeeeere come the Hawks!" at the beginning of games. We go to 5-6 games a year.
They're in the US Division of the WHL (Western Hockey League) which is part of the CHL (Canadian Hockey League). It's major-junior hockey. A lot of the players go on to NHL careers and we follow the teams that they go to.
Anyway, we now return you to your regularly scheduled Discovery Channel Superman talk...
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2006-06-28, 02:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by TinSoldier
So how did Slovakia get good at hockey? ;D
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-28, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OT -- Hockey
Originally Posted by CelestialStick
These guys are just kids -- 16-20 years old. It's similar to college hockey but it's not college.
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(Okay -- don't want to continue off-topic :-[)
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2006-06-28, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
wow this is releavent
almost enough to justify a Superman Vs NHL thread
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2006-06-28, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Ing
Superman would win.
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2006-06-28, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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I thought superman could only leap tall buildings in a single bound, besides, being superman aint all that cool, hard to find anywhere to eat.
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2006-06-28, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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haha that's me at Redlobster
everyone acts so weierd when u tell them your allergic
they're like "you are ....Why?
"because they cause me to uh die?"
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2006-06-28, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Zzarchov
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2006-06-28, 04:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by CelestialStick
Sorry dude. Nothing new there. As far as pseudoscience is concerned, Marvel usually trumps DC.
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2006-06-28, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Beleriphon
In fact my favorite DC lettercol of all time (circa mid 70s) deals with a reader writing in to ask who is smarter, Superman or Batman, and the editor at the time responding that Superman wins, hands down. This was shown to said editor a few years ago and he laughed and said that while his answer probably reflected accurately at the continuity at the time, in the current continuity there is no contest.
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2006-06-28, 09:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Ing
If they don't have time to prepare, Superman beats the NHL without breaking a sweat. If they do have time to prepare, Superman beats the NHL without breaking a sweat. ;)
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Originally Posted by Jack_Banzai
Yes, the Superman of my youth wasn't any less intelligent than Batman (though I don't specifically remember him being any smarter in the 1960s or 1970s), which probably helps explain some of the dichotomy in views of Superman and Batman held by older fans (like me) and young fans on the boards.Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-28, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
As for whose smarter I think that Batman isn't necessarily smarter, Batman however is a whole lot better at using his brains to his advantage. Superman doesn't need to avoid getting hit with bullets, let alone freight trains, unlike a certain fly rodent inspired crime fighter.
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2006-06-29, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Beleriphon
The story of Krypton having higher gravity and thus giving Superman greater density, strength, etc. existed at least though the first Chris Reeve Superman movie. I think that they've gotten rid of that explanation in the current comic book continuity, but I still think of him as being being phsyically denser by several orders of magnitude.
Where did you get that avatar?Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-29, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Science of Superman - Discovery Channel
Originally Posted by CelestialStick
The story of Krypton having higher gravity and thus giving Superman greater density, strength, etc. existed at least though the first Chris Reeve Superman movie. I think that they've gotten rid of that explanation in the current comic book continuity, but I still think of him as being being phsyically denser by several orders of magnitude.
Where did you get that avatar?
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2006-06-29, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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This wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers%...nt_of_Superman explains a lot of the random changes in Superman's powers over the years. Basically he gets the standard DC hack around every decade.
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