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    I'm curious as to how you all would order your strongest motivations. I currently believe mine are:

    {table=head]Rank|
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    Vice

    1st|
    Charity
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    Sloth

    2nd|
    Prudence
    |
    Wrath

    3rd|
    Justice
    |
    Pride

    4th|
    Fortitude
    |
    Lust

    5th|
    Temperance
    |
    Gluttony

    6th|
    Hope
    |
    Greed

    7th|
    Faith
    |
    Envy
    [/table]
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    If anything, the term should be What Would Toho Do?
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    Do you have to use the seven deadly sins, or did you just decide to?
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    well, sloth IS listed first....
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    For that matter, where does your list of virtues come from? And should we use the same list?
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    {table=head]Rank|
    Virtue
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    Vice

    1st|
    Hope
    |
    Lust

    2nd|
    Justice
    |
    Wrath

    3rd|
    Temperance
    |
    Sloth

    4th|
    Fortitude
    |
    Gluttony

    5th|
    Charity
    |
    Pride

    6th|
    Faith
    |
    Envy

    7th|
    Prudence
    |
    Greed
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    For that matter, where does your list of virtues come from? And should we use the same list?
    Seven catholic virtues.

    Sins are from catechism too.
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    Hmm, interesting idea.

    {table=head]Rank|
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    Vice

    1st|
    Love/Charity
    |
    Sloth

    2nd|
    Justice
    |
    Pride

    3rd|
    Prudence
    |
    Wrath

    4th|
    Courage/Fortitude
    |
    Greed

    5th|
    Restraint/Temperance
    |
    Lust

    6th|
    Hope
    |
    Gluttony

    7th|
    Faith
    |
    Envy
    [/table]

    For those who want to see the Virtues and Sins described in some more detail, follow those links. Keep in mind that there's a second list of virtues, I just used the one appearing higher up on the page. It appears to be the more "official" one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thufir View Post
    For that matter, where does your list of virtues come from? And should we use the same list?
    It'll be from the associated Christian virtues, which are a combination of Augustine's adaptation of the Platonic virtues and the three theological virtues from Corinthians.

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    I would tell you, if I could make (or even copy) tables.
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    Erts: The title of the thread is in regards to said items.

    thorgrim: Clever.

    Thufir: Here, and it'd make sense to do so.
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    If anything, the term should be What Would Toho Do?
    Of course, in all situations the answer is Be A Badass.

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    OK then:
    {table=head]Rank|
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    Vice

    1st|
    Temperance
    |
    Pride

    2nd|
    Prudence
    |
    Sloth

    3rd|
    Charity
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    Envy

    4th|
    Justice
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    Greed

    5th|
    Fortitude
    |
    Lust

    6th|
    Faith
    |
    Wrath

    7th|
    Hope
    |
    Gluttony
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    I'm much less certain about the virtues than I am about the vices. Also it should really be noted that ranking the virtues and vices gives no indication of possible weightings.
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    Huh. Interesting. Well, here's mine. Wonder if anyone is going to dispute any of these...

    {table=head]Rank|
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    Sloth

    2nd|
    Charity
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    Envy

    3rd|
    Hope
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    Lust

    4th|
    Fortitude
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    Pride

    5th|
    Faith
    |
    Greed

    6th|
    Prudence
    |
    Gluttony

    7th|
    Temperance
    |
    Wrath
    [/table]

    The virtues were harder to rank. Couldn't decide which one to put first.
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    My virtues as I consider them, though I am a protestant:

    1. Restraint/Temperance. This is very important to me, for example I don't drink alcohole, but, being just a man, I often fall short of my goals
    2. Love/Charity
    3. Justice
    4. Hope
    5. Faith
    6. Prudence
    7. Fortitude


    Here are my vices:

    1. Pride
    2. Gluttony
    3. Sloth
    4. Wrath
    5. Lust
    6. Greed
    7. Envy
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    {table=head]Rank|
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    Vice

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    Prudence
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    Pride

    2nd|
    Fortitude
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    Wrath

    3rd|
    Justice
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    Sloth

    4th|
    Hope
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    Gluttony

    5th|
    Temperance
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    Envy

    6th|
    Charity
    |
    Lust

    7th|
    Faith
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    Greed
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    Hah! I'd just like to point out that I am an agnostic that was raised Adventist, and spent a short run toying with LeVayan Satanism. Given the wonky backround, I've come to feel very strongly that balance between the 14 is the true ideal as opposed to one set of 7 or the other. Roughly speaking, the Virtues stem from Charity (care for others) while the Vices all stem from Pride (care for one's self). If one gets carried away with the former, they end up a martyr. Too far into the latter, and they become a sociopath. That's my view anyway.
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    Of course, in all situations the answer is Be A Badass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadrian_Emrys View Post
    Erts: The title of the thread is in regards to said items.

    Sorry, it gave me an idea for a simmilar question; what values do you think are the "best"? (Charity, self-dependence, etc, etc. (these are examples, not what I think are good) And, what do you despise the most? (Dishonesty, etc.)

    Anyway,

    Virtues:

    1. Prudence
    2. Charity
    3. Fortitude
    4. Faith (I'm choosing to mean this as "How much you believe in what you believe in, and not in a religious context. I mean, how much do you value your views?)
    5. Hope (Same as above, meaning "hope that what you are doing is right.)
    6. Justice
    7. Temperance

    Vices:

    1. Sloth
    2. Pride
    3. Gluttony
    4. Wrath
    5. Lust
    6. Envy
    7. Greed
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    {table=head]Rank|
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    Vice

    1st|
    Justice
    |
    Pride

    2nd|
    Prudence
    |
    Wrath

    3rd|
    Fortitude
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    Greed

    4th|
    Temperance
    |
    Lust

    5th|
    Charity
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    Envy

    6th|
    Hope
    |
    Gluttony

    7th|
    Faith
    |
    Sloth
    [/table]

    Sort of.
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    Envy

    2nd|
    Justice
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    Pride

    3rd|
    Hope
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    Sloth

    5th|
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    Greed

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    Charity
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    Lust

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    Faith
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    Gluttony
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    {table=head]Rank|
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    Sloth

    2nd|
    Hope
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    Gluttony

    3rd|
    Faith
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    Restraint/Temperance
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    Lust

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    Prudence
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    Greed
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    Hope
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    Sloth

    2nd|
    Justice
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    Pride

    3rd|
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    Wrath

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    Greed

    6th|
    Temperance
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    Lust

    7th|
    Faith
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    Envy
    [/table]

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    Ours are kind of similar Reccy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moofin Bard View Post
    Ours are kind of similar Reccy.
    Except for Pride and Faith, yeah. The others are all within 2 numbers.
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    Now, someone analyse the data and conference with a team of sociologists and psychologists. Have the write up on my desk by Thursday.

    Also, did anyone else use the bubble sort algorithm on this one? Just to annoy all those computer programmers.

    {table=head]Rank|
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    Vice

    1st|
    Justice
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    Envy

    2nd|
    Charity
    |
    Pride

    3rd|
    Fortitude
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    Sloth

    4th|
    Temperance
    |
    Wrath

    5th|
    Faith
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    Greed

    6th|
    Hope
    |
    Lust

    7th|
    Prudence
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    Gluttony
    [/table]


    I must say though, I don't really embody any of those virtues.

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    Here's mine. It's probably going to change in 2 days anyway, so this is right now: (I haven't heard of the "7 deadly sins" all together in 2 years...wow. That's amazing. Compared to how I hear the 7 good ones every single week [except Fortitude. I put Mercy above most of these, but I suppose it fits in Charity], though never all together.) (And I'm not Catholic, so that explains why I hear things differently)
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    Pride

    2nd|
    Faith
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    Envy

    3rd|
    Hope
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    Sloth

    4th|
    Justice
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    Lust

    5th|
    Temperance
    |
    Wrath

    6th|
    Fortitude
    |
    Gluttony

    7th|
    Prudence
    |
    Greed
    [/table]
    ...Man, those deadly sins were hard to place. I mean, they so rarely come up that I almost forgot about them.
    (And the weighting is way off than what this graph makes it appear. Use your imagination to interpret that as you may) And...I appear to have written too many side-comments. Time to delete some.
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    Pride

    2nd|
    Chastity
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    Sloth

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    Greed

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    Lust

    7th|
    Dilegence
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    Wrath
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    Pride

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    Envy

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    Prudence
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    Greed

    7th|
    Temperance
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    Gluttony
    [/table]

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    Fortitude
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    Pride

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    Envy

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    Greed

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    Faith
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    Gluttony

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    Hope
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    Lust
    [/table]
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    Hope
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    3rd|
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    Wrath

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    Prudence
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    Greed

    7th|
    Temperance
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    Gluttony
    [/table]

    In both sets, I had three that were pretty much equal (Hope, Charity and Faith/Lust,Wrath, and Greed) and I just had to pick one for each spot, but the others are pretty well put in place.
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    Pride

    2nd|
    Humility
    |
    Envy

    3rd|
    Diligence
    |
    Greed

    4th|
    Kindness
    |
    Sloth

    5th|
    Temperance
    |
    Lust

    6th|
    Charity
    |
    Wrath

    7th|
    Chastity
    |
    Gluttony
    [/table]

    The virtues aren't terribly solid here on my part. While I feel I have Patience, Humility, and Diligence down pretty extensively and in the right order at the top, I think I have Kindness, Temperance, and Charity in about equal measure.

    Now, I can make a new list for what I WISH these were like for me, and what I work towards...

    Note: I did the Heavenly Virtues not the Cardinal Virtues.
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    {table=head]Rank|
    Virtue
    |
    Vice

    1st|
    Justice
    |
    Pride

    2nd|
    Charity
    |
    Sloth

    3rd|
    Fortitude
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    4th|
    Prudence
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    Lust

    5th|
    Hope
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    Wrath

    6th|
    Temperance
    |
    Greed

    7th|
    Faith
    |
    Envy
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