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    I am wondering, will this include male and female centaurs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana_Geldar View Post
    I am wondering, will this include male and female centaurs?

    Yuh huh. Just not the Disney ones you've got there. :P

    I'm going with a version somewhat inspired by the ancient Greeks. Crude, drunken lechers who farm impossibly tall grass (saves them leaning onto the ground) and whose only real interest in other races is to trade their various exports (wine and hay) for virgins, with whom they... "make friends" with. Of course, they're not above simply taking what they want from people as well.
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    Disney was the first guy to do "centaurettes" though. And if the myth of Chiron is correct, their blood is poisonous to humans.

    Will the centaurs be very good archers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana_Geldar View Post
    Disney was the first guy to do "centaurettes" though. And if the myth of Chiron is correct, their blood is poisonous to humans.

    Will the centaurs be very good archers?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur#Female_centaurs

    Disney does not, as far as I recall, predate Ancient Macedonia. Though the Disney studio did apparently rename them as such.

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    All right, all right, I don't know my Greek mythology as well as I thought I did.
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    generally i would think centaurs be a bastard child of the gods, cast out because they are an abomination.

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    Like echidna and typhon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana_Geldar View Post
    Disney was the first guy to do "centaurettes" though. And if the myth of Chiron is correct, their blood is poisonous to humans.

    Will the centaurs be very good archers?
    I think they'd be good archers, yeah. Not good in a "naturally talented" kind of way (like Elves tend to be depicted with their bows, or Dwarves with axes- neither are gonna be like that with me, though), more that they've invested time into inventing better ways to kill.

    And yeah, the Greeks did have female Centaurs, although they were admittedly pretty rare. Disney sort of popularized the notion. :)

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    ^: Well, female centaurs weren't exactly the warrior-dudes that were popular.

    Or trained demigods and heroes.

    I'm skeptical of centaurs as grazers. Hunter-gatherers, I can see easily. Presumably some kind of centaur enabling wild staple that they follow the differing seasons of when it is ready in their migrations through their lands in addition to hunting down the beefalo and such. Perhaps this staple is what they also make their centbroot which is desired by others and used to obtain the metals they use. Though I'm sorta seeing them as Great Plains Indians meet the mongols right now, so, your mileage may vary. haha.
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    Since that day the cursed humans and horses have always had an affinity with each other and want to regain what they lost so that is why humans ride horses, imitating the centaurs.
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    Not that it'll necessarily fit in everywhere, but the homebrew centaur I used for my campaign are from another world where that's the normal shape. Their world imploded, so they plane shifted through to the game world. It also let me play with some fun things (like that fitting a fantasy setting, the core races were created by their relative gods, but back on their home plane the centaurs evolved).

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    It's worth remembering that Centaurs have 6 limbs and thus cannot be mammals. Indeed, I'd say their likeness to Humans and Horses is only coincidental and they are descend from insects whose exoskeleton just so happens to remind skin (why do you think they have natural armor?) and whose antennae have developed to double as ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    It's worth remembering that Centaurs have 6 limbs and thus cannot be mammals. Indeed, I'd say their likeness to Humans and Horses is only coincidental and they are descend from insects whose exoskeleton just so happens to remind skin (why do you think they have natural armor?) and whose antennae have developed to double as ears.
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    Nothing in there about having 4 limbs. Sure, most/all known mammals in real life do have four limbs (whales have vestigial skeletal legs), but that doesn't mean it's part of the definition.

    The discovery of the centaur is analogous to the discovery of the first zoologists in Australia of the platypus and echidna. Before this discovery, all known mammals gave live birth. However, since that wasn't part of the definition of mammals, the newly discovered platypus and echidna were classified as mammals, albeit strange ones. The Centaur can do likewise, assuming it meets all the definitive traits quoted above.
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    Nothing in there about having 4 limbs. Sure, most/all known mammals in real life do have four limbs (whales have vestigial skeletal legs), but that doesn't mean it's part of the definition.

    The discovery of the centaur is analogous to the discovery of the first zoologists in Australia of the platypus and echidna. Before this discovery, all known mammals gave live birth. However, since that wasn't part of the definition of mammals, the newly discovered platypus and echidna were classified as mammals, albeit strange ones. The Centaur can do likewise, assuming it meets all the definitive traits quoted above.
    Of course, no vertabrate has more than 4 limbs; extras are hard to do Plus, mammals are tetrapods, critters with 4 legs.
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    Several of the goddesses (Athene, Hera, and Artemis) are generally more Lawful than Chaotic, but I'd say you've definitely got Aphrodite, most of the male gods, and Zeus especially bang to rights. One of them, Dionysus, is probably somewhere in Chaotic Crazy territory. About the only Greek gods with a solid claim to being good were two humans who were raised to godhood: Heracles and Asclepius.
    Yes nothing says lawful quite like "You saw me bathing (note she was in the middle of the woods) so now you are a horse. Also your dogs are gonna eat you now." Yes. thats lawful all right. Greek myths are crazy. Insane. Somehow Awesome though...

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    Of course, no vertabrate has more than 4 limbs; extras are hard to do
    Technically, 5. Humans and other apes are a little freakish in that we've only got 4, though our 5th is visible in our skeletons.
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    I am wondering, will this include male and female centaurs?

    I would so want a centaur girl like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana_Geldar View Post
    Disney was the first guy to do "centaurettes" though. And if the myth of Chiron is correct, their blood is poisonous to humans.

    Will the centaurs be very good archers?
    You know how the mongols were terrifying with their mounted archery tactics? Centaurs do that by default. Fear them. Also fear Shock-Trooper Leap-Attack Spirited Charge Centaurs.
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    You know how the mongols were terrifying with their mounted archery tactics? Centaurs do that by default.
    They wouldn't have the same endurance over longer distance though. The Mongols freaked people out a lot by just turning up suddenly when they were supposed to be nowhere nearby, centaurs wouldn't be able to switch mounts, and they certainly couldn't survive in an emergency with just their own blood and milk for supply.
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    They wouldn't have the same endurance over longer distance though. The Mongols freaked people out a lot by just turning up suddenly when they were supposed to be nowhere nearby, centaurs wouldn't be able to switch mounts, and they certainly couldn't survive in an emergency with just their own blood and milk for supply.
    Eh, a time that Endurance as a feat is actually useful perhaps?
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    Eh, a time that Endurance as a feat is actually useful perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenogears View Post
    Yes nothing says lawful quite like "You saw me bathing (note she was in the middle of the woods) so now you are a horse. Also your dogs are gonna eat you now." Yes. thats lawful all right. Greek myths are crazy. Insane. Somehow Awesome though...
    Actually, from the perspective of Greek Myth... Yeah, that's lawful. He legitimately, if accidentally, did her a great offense. You do not take that sort of familiarity with goddesses, and especially not goddesses who are also virgins, and when it came to one's conduct with the gods, 'accident' is not a valid defense. He needed, by the basic celestial order of things, to be punished; she punished him.

    Also, he was turned into a deer, not a horse. At least in 99.9% of the variations I have ever heard of.
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