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    I am currently starting in a campaign with characters starting at 16th level. I've chosen to use a Healer class character and the DM is allowing it to be a spontaneous caster... I am aware of the restrictiveness of the class and I would prefer it if nobody would try to convince me to go with another base class other then it... but I was wondering if there is any suggestions anyone could make as far as equipment and feats (and maybe prestige classes or templates) that may help this character to be better?
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    Default Re: Help with Healer Class Character (3rd ed)

    Try boosting your spell list so you can do something beyond heal. A bit harder for a divine caster (praticularlly one without turn undead) than an arcane one though.

    Find a way to get range on your touch ranged healing so you are not in the center of combat as a squishy target.

    Also, on the good side you are starting at a high level, didn't healers get gate as a 9th level spell?
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    Is the DM giving you spontaneous casting and knowing your entire spell list (like warmage or beguilar) or spontaneous casting and choosing what spells you know (like sorcerer).

    If its the first, going into rainbow servant gets you all cleric spells.

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    Isn't healer divine and rainbow servant restricited to arcane?

    At least one prc however gave you free domains, that works great if it is per 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxhero View Post

    At least one prc however gave you free domains, that works great if it is per 1
    Sovereign speaker?

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    Default Re: Help with Healer Class Character (D&D 3.5e)

    I think. Don't know the details on the class beyond granting additionall domains.

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    The DM is allowing spontaneous with knowing the spells in the Healer's spell list. The class is from the Miniatures Handbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxhero View Post
    I think. Don't know the details on the class beyond granting additionall domains.
    http://brilliantgameologists.com/boa...p?topic=3927.0
    ^a guide to this PrC

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    Default Re: Help with Healer Class Character (D&D 3.5e)

    "At least one cleric domain" requirement kills that idea then (unless the DM is kind enough to let you act as though you had the healing domain, given the decent buff he gave the NPC class being used, there is a good chance)
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    As much as it pains me to suggest it, one option for Reach Spell is a level of Hierophant. It's a core PrC no one ever talks about, and for good reason. It's a lot like an Archmage for Divine Casters... except you don't get casting progression, just Caster Level. One level can get you 30' reach on all your Divine spells. The other abilities aren't that impressive, so you could stick around for a second level to get 60' range but I wouldn't. Build would be Healer13/Hierophant1/Healer2. Then you can use a Rod of Chain Spell and get Mass Heal on the cheap... provided Chain Spell is allowed to work on Reach'd spells.

    Or just get some rods of Reach Spell, but as a spont caster it takes you a full round to cast using them barring a feat from Complete Mage you take at level 9. It's a good feat to take as a Spont caster anyway.

    Whatever you end up doing, take a level of Contemplative from Complete Divine to get a domain. You can pick it up after level 8, qualifying is easy (just take Know: Religion), and the fluff is you really like your god. You even get immunity to diseases just because. If Healer's class abilities are less than stellar after 8th, you could go Healer8/Contemplative7/Hierophant 1 to cast as a 15th level Healer with CL 16 with two domains, Reach on all your touch spells, and a few other odds and ends. There's no need for so much Contemplative, but it is not terrible.
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    I'm playing a healer in a game too. They can be restrictive but they can also be so much fun!

    here's the feats I suggest:
    Augment healing
    Touch of healing
    Healing devotion
    Magic of the land
    REACH SPELL for the love of god REACH SPELL.

    And try to talk your DM into making ride a class skill so you can actually ride you unicorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowsGrnEyes View Post
    And try to talk your DM into making ride a class skill so you can actually ride you unicorn.
    And! Try to talk your DM into making the unicorn an animal companion

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    Default Re: Help with Healer Class Character (D&D 3.5e)

    well considering we are starting out as a level 16 characters, one level of Hierophant wouldn't be too bad... The feats that i've been looking towards in using was mainly:

    Augment Healing
    Touch of Healing
    Able Learner (if human race)
    Forge Ring, and Extra Rings (for the ability to use 4 rings)

    Any other suggestions on items or feats? any other help is always welcome.

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    Default Re: Help with Healer Class Character (D&D 3.5e)

    Healers can enter Prestige Paladin at 8th level. The Healer's Code and Paladin's Code overlap in a lot of places, and paladin spells back up the healer list very well.

    Plus you can stack the unicorn and your paladin mount, if you've got a decent DM.

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    Prestige Paladin requires the character to be able to turn undead which the Healer is unable to do

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    There's a PrC that grants Turning, Paladin-like abilities and a domain to cast from, in one web enhancement or another.
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    How many times, when the Fighter says "I draw my sword", did you just want to smack that cheating-optimizer in the face and say "No! You don't draw your sword! You draw Orcus!". When the Cleric says "I run away from Orcus!": "No! You run into Orcus! Rogue tries to hide? He hides behind Orcus! The bard in a tavern on the other side the town tries to order a drink? How about a nice frothy mug of Orcus?
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    Perhaps this will sate Flickerdart's endless hunger for assassinations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djlink View Post
    Prestige Paladin requires the character to be able to turn undead which the Healer is unable to do
    Oh, right. Level in Sacred Exorcist should solve that.

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    Sacred Exorcist requires the character to be able to cast Dismissal or Dispel Evil... which the Healer doesn't have in the spell lists.

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    Ah, found it. Soldier of Light, Deities and Demigods.
    Quote Originally Posted by A_Moon View Post
    How many times, when the Fighter says "I draw my sword", did you just want to smack that cheating-optimizer in the face and say "No! You don't draw your sword! You draw Orcus!". When the Cleric says "I run away from Orcus!": "No! You run into Orcus! Rogue tries to hide? He hides behind Orcus! The bard in a tavern on the other side the town tries to order a drink? How about a nice frothy mug of Orcus?
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    Perhaps this will sate Flickerdart's endless hunger for assassinations.

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    Christ. Take a level of cleric (or better, cloistered cleric--you picked it up from your years at the university), then.

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    I'd go straight class. If you'll be starting at 16th then go straight class and trade in the Unicorn for a Couatl. . . now THAT's a MOUNT. Who DOESNT want somthing that basically equates to a paladins mount as far as class features goes but can also cast spells as a 9th level sorcerer. . . and has psionic abilities. . .and you know looks AWSOME. but that's just me.
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    Default Re: Help with Healer Class Character (D&D 3.5e)

    FYI: The group i am running are going to be able to dish out a lot of damage... all i have to worry about is just not dying and being able to heal others, so that is mainly what i am gearing towards, but being able to do a little bit of fighting is okay, but not an absolute necessity...

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