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    UPDATE:Charts now work on the first post. I'm going to be making a big update of new Pathfinder a material, and then I'll update the second post as well.

    A frequent build problem is that at mid-high levels, it's likely that your character will only have one or two high attributes, because you have limited bonus attribute points from levels and limited treasure to buy attribute boosting items. Thus it's in your best interest to derive as many bonuses as possible from as few attributes as possible. So the purpose of this post is to compile a list of everything that provides a bonus to anything derived from any attribute.

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    Strength
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    Name Type Book Page # Edition Bonus Notes
    Brutal Throw Feat Complete Adventurer 106 3.5 To-Hit thrown weapons, replaces Dex
    Channeled Rage Feat Races of Destiny 150 3.5 Will Saves burn Rage use for 1 Save
    Composite Bow Equipment PHB 117 3.5 Damage Ranged
    Half-Orc Druid Sub Level Races of Destiny 159 3.5 Wild Empathy Replaces Cha
    Illumian (Aeshkrau) Race Races of Destiny 54 3.5 Bonus Spells -
    Intimidating Prowess Feat PF Core ? PF Intimidate -
    Might Makes Right Feat Races of Faerun 166 3 Leadership Replaces Cha


    Dexterity
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    Name Type Book Page # Edition Bonus Notes
    Agile Athlete Feat Races of the Wild 148 3.5 Jump and Climb Replaces Str
    Agile enchantment Equipment PF Society Field Guide ? PF Damage -
    Boots of Agile Leaping Equipment Magic Item Comp 76 3.5 Jump Replaces Str, Stand from Prone as Swift Action.
    Champion of C.L. 2 PrC Races of the Wild 113 3.5 Damage Limited weapons
    Companion Guard Style Feat Dragon #315 52 3.5 To-Hit Elf Only
    Corsair 9 PrC Dragon #321 86 3.5 Damage Replaces Str
    Crossbow Sniper Feat PHBII 77 3.5 Damage 1/2, crossbows only
    Dead Eye Feat Dragon Comp 108 3.5 Damage (Errata here), Ranged within 30 ft only
    Dervish Dance Feat The Inner Sea World Guide ? PF To-Hit & Damage Scimitar only
    Fey-craft Equipment DMGII 275 3.5 To-Hit Replaces Str, limited weapons
    Fierce enchantment Equipment Arms & Equip Guide 96 3 Damage Removes Dex AC bonus
    Fighter 1 Alt Class Feature Dragon #310 39 3.5 Damage Ranged, Replaces Str
    Fighter 1 Alt Class Feature Drow of the Underdark 58 3.5 Damage vs. Flat Footed Foe
    Fury's Fall Feat Cheliax, Empire of Devils ? PF Trip CMB -
    Illumian (Uurhuun) Race Races of Destiny 54 3.5 Overcome SR -
    Illumian (Uurkrau) Race Races of Destiny 54 3.5 Bonus Spells -
    Muckdweller Race ? ? PF Damage -
    Musket Master Archetype (Gunslinger) Ult Combat 51 PF Damage -
    Perfected One Epic PrC Dragons #297 56 3.5 Fort Saves while unarmored
    Shadow Blade Feat Tome of Battle 32 3.5 Damage Limited weapons
    Sword of Graceful Strikes Equipment Arms & Equip Guide 120 3 Damage -
    Tactile Trapsmith Feat Complete Adventurer 112 3.5 Disable Device and Search Replaces Int
    Weapon Finesse Feat PHB 102 3.5 To-Hit Replaces Str, limited weapons
    Weapon Finesse Feat PF Core ? PF To-Hit Replaces Str, limited weapons


    Constitution
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    Name Type Book Page # Edition Bonus Notes
    Action Before Thought Maneuver Tome of Battle 62 3.5 Reflex Saves Concentration check, Immediate Action
    Bloodhound Class Complete Adventurer 28 3.5 Will Saves vs Mark
    Deepwarden 2 PrC Races of Stone 105 3.5 AC Replaces Dex
    Dwarf Sorcerer Sub Level Races of Stone 147 3.5 Bonus Spells -
    Fist of the Forest PrC Complete Champion 80 3.5 AC while unarmored
    Forsaker PrC Masters of the Wild 57 3 AC Natural Armor
    Greater Insightful Strike Maneuver Tome of Battle 62 3.5 Damage 2 * Concentration check, Standard Action
    Hammer of Earth Equipment Magic of Rokugen 66 3 Damage -
    Improved Bind Vestige Feat Tome of Magic 73 3.5 AC 1/2, natural armor, Dahlver-Nar Vestige
    Insightful Strike Maneuver Tome of Battle 62 3.5 Damage Concentration check, Standard Action
    Kensai PrC Complete Warrior 49 3.5 Reflex Saves Concentration check
    Mind Over Body Maneuver Tome of Battle 63 3.5 Fort Saves Concentration check, Immediate Action
    Mineral Warrior (+1LA) Template Underdark 96 3.5 To-Hit 1/day
    Moment of Perfect Mind Maneuver Tome of Battle 63 3.5 Will Saves Concentration check, Immediate Action
    Perfected One Epic PrC Dragon #297 56 3.5 Will Saves while unarmored
    Steadfast Determination Feat PHBII 83 3.5 Will Saves -
    Warforged Paladin Sub Level Races of Eberron 132 3.5 Will Saves -


    Intelligence
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    Name Type Book Page # Edition Bonus Notes
    Diviner 1 Class UA 60 3.5 attack, save, skill, or level check Limited times per day
    Ascetic Psion Feat Secrets of Sarlona 115 3.5 AC Replaces Wis, Requires Monk
    Bayushi Deceiver 2 PrC Oriental Adventures 225 3 Initiative -
    Blade Singer 1 PrC Complete Warrior 17 3.5 AC Limited by class level
    Carmendine Monk Feat Champions of Valor 28 3.5 AC, Monk Powers Replaces Wis, Requires Monk
    Control Body Power Expanded Psionics Handbook 86 3.5 To-Hit of Dominated foe
    Control Body Power Expanded Psionics Handbook 86 3.5 Damage of Dominated foe
    Control Body Power Expanded Psionics Handbook 86 3.5 AC of Dominated foe
    Darkrunner 3 PrC Lords of Madness 187 3.5 Initiative While underground
    Darkrunner 8 PrC Lords of Madness 187 3.5 Damage While on difficult terrain
    Disciple of Baalzebul 2 PrC BoVD ? 3 Bluff In addition to Cha
    Duelist 1 PrC DMG 185 3.5 AC Limited by class level
    Duelist 1 PrC PF Core ? PF AC Limited by class level
    Eternal Blade 1 PrC Tome of Battle 110 3.5 To-Hit Against 1 creature type
    Eternal Blade 1 PrC Tome of Battle 110 3.5 Damage Against 1 creature type
    Eternal Blade 6 PrC Tome of Battle 110 3.5 AC Dodge bonus, Swift Action
    Exemplar 8 PrC Complete Adventurer 44 3.5 Initiative -
    Exemplar 8 PrC Complete Adventurer 44 3.5 Reflex Saves -
    Factotum 1 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 To-Hit Requires Insp. Point
    Factotum 1 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 Saves Requires Insp. Point
    Factotum 1 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 Damage Requires Insp. Point
    Factotum 16 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 AC Dodge bonus
    Factotum 3 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 AC One foe, Requires Insp. Point
    Factotum 3 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 Str checks and Skills -
    Factotum 3 Class Dungeonscape 14 3.5 Dex checks and Skills -
    Faerie Mysteries Init. Feat Dragon 319 58 3.5 Hit Points Replaces Con
    Iaijutsu Master 1 PrC Oriental Adventures 41 3 AC while wielding katana
    Illusionist Variant Unearthed Arcana 63 3.5 Hide -
    Insightful Reflexes Feat Complete Adventurer 110 3.5 Reflex Saves Replaces Dex
    Invisible Blade 1 PrC Complete Warrior 44 3.5 AC Limited by class level
    Keen Intellect Feat Dragon #318 38 3.5 Will Saves Replaces Wis
    Kung Fu Genius Feat 319 71 3.5 AC, Monk Powers Replaces Wis, Requires Monk
    Magus 1 Class Ultimate Combat ? PF AC Kensai Archetype, limited by level
    Mantis Mercenary 5 PrC Oriental Adventures 231 3 AC vs. Dodge feat foe only
    Montebank 1 PrC Complete Scoundrel 57 3.5 Bluff -
    Nightcloak 7 PrC Complete Divine WE NA 3.5 Saves -
    Rapscallion Feat Dragon 315 54 3.5 Bluff Regional
    Sanctified One 1 PrC Complete Champion 101 3.5 Caster Level Limited Uses
    Sorcerer 1 Class Ultimate Magic ? PF Spellcasting Sage Bloodline, replaces Cha
    Student of War 2 PrC PF Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets ? PF AC Replaces Dex
    Swashbuckler 3 Class Complete Warrior 11 3.5 Damage -
    Swiftblade 4 PrC Online NA 3.5 Initiative Uses primary caster statistic
    Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium 220 3.5 To-Hit with spell's lance only
    Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium 220 3.5 Damage with spell's lance only
    Warblade 1 Class Tome of Battle 22 3.5 Reflex Saves Limited by class level
    Warblade 11 Class Tome of Battle 22 3.5 Certain Opposed checks Bull Rush, Disarm, etc
    Warblade 15 Class Tome of Battle 22 3.5 Damage AoO only
    Warblade 3 Class Tome of Battle 22 3.5 Critical Confirmation Rolls -
    Warblade 7 Class Tome of Battle 22 3.5 Damage Melee, against flat-footed & flanked
    Warmage 1 Class Complete Arcane 22 3.5 Damage on spells
    Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium 238 3.5 To-Hit -
    Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium 238 3.5 Damage -


    Wisdom
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    Name Type Book Page # Edition Bonus Notes
    Argent Fist 10 PrC Faiths of Eberron 70 3.5 Fast Healing limited duration, uses Turn attempt
    Balance Domain Player's Guide to Faerun 84 3.5 AC 1 rd per lvl, 1/day
    Battlesmith 1 PrC Races of Stone 96 3.5 Damage Dwarf only, warhammer only
    Citadel Elite 5 PrC Sharn 165 3.5 Fort Saves -
    Cloud Anchorite PrC Frostburn 52 3.5 Balance, Climb, & Jump -
    Dragon Warrior 1 PrC Dragon #298 104 3 Hit Points -
    Dragon Warrior 2 PrC Dragon #298 104 3 AC -
    Dungeoneers Intuition Feat Waterdeep 144 3.5 AC for Trapsense AC only
    Guided Hand Feat Ultimate Combat ? PF To-Hit Diety's Favored Weapon
    Hunter of the Dead 3 PrC Complete Warrior 43 3.5 Saves vs. Undead spells & effects
    Illumian (Aeshhoon) Race Races of Destiny 54 3.5 Damage uses Turn attempt
    Illumian (Uurhuun) Race Races of Destiny 54 3.5 Reflex Saves -
    Impure Prince 4 PrC Magic of Eberron 74 3.5 Fort Saves Replaces Con
    Inquisitor 1 Class Ultimate Magic ? PF Bluff & Stealth Heretic archetype
    Inquisitor 1 Class Ultimate Magic ? PF Bluff & Diplomacy Infiltrator archetype
    Inquisitor 1 Class Ultimate Magic ? PF Spellcraft Witch Hunter archetype
    Inquisitor 2 Class Adv Player's Guide ? PF Initiative -
    Intuitive Attack BoED 44 3.5 To-Hit -
    Mantis Mercenary 5 PrC Oriental Adventures 231 3 AC from Dodge feat target only
    Monk 1 Class PHB 39 3.5 AC unarmored, doesn't stack with Ninja
    Monk 1 Class Core ? PF AC unarmored
    Monk 3 Class Adv Player's Guide ? PF To-Hit Zen Archer archetype, bows only
    Monk's Belt Equipment DMG 248 3.5 AC as Monk
    Moon-Warded Ranger 2 Sub level Dragon #340 55 3.5 AC as Monk
    Mortal Hunter 5 PrC BoVD 65 3.5 Saves vs. Spells
    Ninja 1 Class Complete Adventurer 5 3.5 AC doesn't stack with Monk
    Ordained Champion 5 PrC Complete Champion 91 3.5 To-Hit replaces Str, uses Turn attempts
    Ordained Champion 5 PrC Complete Champion 91 3.5 Damage replaces Str, uses Turn attempts
    Perfected One PrC Dragon #297 56 3.5 Reflex Saves while unarmored
    Sacred Fist 4 PrC Complete Divine 59 3.5 Damage -
    Saint (+2 LA) Template BoED 185 3.5 AC -
    Serenity Dragon Mag #306, Drag Comp 106 3.5 Saves Replaces Wis for Cha for all Paladin Abilities
    Serenity Dragon Mag #306, Drag Comp 106 3.5 To-Hit On Smite Evil, limited uses, replaces Wis for Cha for all Paladin Abilities
    Shiba Protector 1 PrC Oriental Adventures 222 3 To-Hit -
    Shiba Protector 1 PrC Oriental Adventures 222 3 Damage -
    Shifter Druid 5 Sub level Races of Eberron 127 3.5 Shifting Replaces Con to determine duration
    Shifter Ranger 1 Sub level Races of Eberron 128 3.5 Wild Empathy Replaces Cha
    Sorcerer 1 Class Ultimate Magic ? PF Spellcasting Empyreal Bloodline, replaces Cha
    Soulbow 1 PrC Complete Psionics 36 3.5 Damage with Mind Arrows
    Sword Sage 2 Class Tome of Battle 16 3.5 AC while in light armor
    Sword Sage 4 & 12 Class Tome of Battle 16 3.5 Damage on Strikes from chosen Discipline
    Watery Death Domain Player's Guide to Faerun 92 3.5 To-Hit On Smite, limited use, aquatic creatures only.
    Yondalla's Sense Races of the Wild 152 3.5 Initiative -
    Zen Archery Complete Warrior 106 3.5 To-Hit Ranged


    Charisma
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    Name Type Book Page # Edition Bonus Notes
    Akodo Champion 2 PrC Oriental Adventures 220 3 Saves -
    Apparition Ribbon Feat or Class Magic of Incarnum ? 3 AC Chakra Bind grants Incorporeal Subtype.
    Arcane Duelist 2 PrC Online NA 3 AC -
    Ascetic Mage Feat Complete Adventurer 105 3.5 AC switches Monk/Ninja bonus from Wis to Cha
    Astral Stalker (+6 LA) Race MM3 12 3.5 AC -
    Astral Stalker (+6 LA) Race MM3 12 3.5 Saves -
    Avenging Strike Feat Tome of Battle 28 3.5 To-Hit vs evil outsiders, 1/day/cha bonus
    Avenging Strike Feat Tome of Battle 28 3.5 Damage vs evil outsiders, 1/day/cha bonus
    Azurin Cleric 1 Sub level Magic of Incarnum 43 3.5 Essentia Limitations
    Battle Dancer Class DragMag#159/DragComp 26 3.5 AC -
    Battledance Epic Feat Dragon #297 28 3 To-Hit -
    Battledance Epic Feat Dragon #297 28 3 AC -
    Battledance Epic Feat Dragon #297 28 3 Reflex Saves -
    Beauty's Bounty Feat Online NA 3.5 Hit Points Replaces Con for 1st level
    Blackguard 2 PrC DMG 181 3.5 Saves
    Blackguard 2 PrC DMG 182 3.5 To-Hit Smite Good, limited use per day
    Bow of Song Equipment Magic Item Comp 48 3.5 To-Hit requires Bard music
    Bow of Song Equipment Magic Item Comp 48 3.5 Damage requires Bard music
    Chameleon 3 PrC Races of Destiny 112 3.5 To-Hit 1/day per 2 lvls
    Charming the Arrow Feat Online NA 3.5 To-Hit with bow/crossbow, replaces Dex
    Combat Panache Feat PHBII 93 3.5 AC 1 enemy, restrictions
    Corrupt Avenger 3 PrC Heroes of Horror 88 3.5 Saves Doesn't stack with Divine Grace
    Crusader 2 Class Tome of Battle 11 3.5 Will Saves Doesn't stack w/ Divine Grace
    Defiant 2 PrC Planar Handbook 44 3.5 Saves vs. divine spells
    Divine Might Feat Complete Warrior 106 3.5 Damage -
    Divine Might Feat Online NA 3 Damage -
    Divine Shield Feat Complete Warrior 106 3.5 AC Shield
    Dread Pirate 9 PrC Complete Adventurer 39 3.5 AC Self & allies, 1/day
    Dry Lich Template Sandstorm 155 3.5 Hit Points -
    Eldeen Ranger 3 PrC Eberron Campaign Setting 74 3.5 Saves Greensingers only
    Evil Blessing Feat Elder Evils 13 3.5 Saves Profane, limits
    Exemplar 4 PrC Complete Adventurer 44 3.5 Concentration -
    Exemplar 4 PrC Complete Adventurer 44 3.5 Fort Saves -
    Force of Personality Feat Complete Adventurer 109 3.5 Will Saves replaces Wisdom
    Gauntlets of Heartfelt Blows Equipment Dragon #314 22 3.5 Damage -
    Gloura (+2 LA, 7HD) Template Underdark 88 3.5 AC -
    Gloura (+2 LA, 7HD) Template Underdark 88 3.5 Saves -
    Grimwierd (+3 LA, 12 HD) PrC MMIII 75 3.5 AC -
    Grimwierd (+3 LA, 12 HD) PrC MMIII 75 3.5 Saves -
    Gunslinger 1 Class Ultimate Combat ? PF Damage Mysterious Stranger archetype, limited
    Gwenyfhar PrC BoED 56 3.5 Saves -
    Halfling Domain Player's Guide to Faerun 87 3.5 Climb, Jump, Hide, Move Silently 10 min/day
    Hexband Equipment Magic Item Comp 122 3.5 Damage linked to Hexblade Curse
    Hexblade 2 Class Complete Warrior 5 3.5 Saves vs Spells
    Holy Liberator 4 PrC Complete Divine 45 3.5 Saves -
    Iajutsu Master 2 PrC Oriental Adventures 41 3 Initiative -
    Iajutsu Master 5 PrC Oriental Adventures 41 3 Damage -
    Incorporeal Sub-type MM 310 3.5 AC -
    Justicar 2 PrC Seven Days to the Grave ? PF To-Hit Crossbows only, limited times
    Justicar of Tyr 5 PrC Player's Guide to Faerun 65 3.5 Saves vs. Chaotic spells/outsiders
    Killoren (Destroyer Aspect) Race Races of the Wild 102 3.5 To-Hit Limited Smite 1/hour
    Knight of the Sacred Seal 2 PrC Tome of Magic 54 3.5 AC 1 round in 5
    Knight of the Sacred Seal 2 PrC Tome of Magic 54 3.5 Reflex Saves 1 round in 5
    Larethian Protector Equipment Arms & Equip Guide 122 3.5 Damage uses Turn attempt
    Mantle of Freedom Feat Dungeon #104 ? 3.5 Grapple, Escape Artist includes other bonuses
    Marshall 1 Class Miniatures 11 3.5 Varies Aura, effects allies
    Martyred Champion 4 PrC Player's Guide to Faerun 184 3.5 Saves -
    Master of Yuirwood 9 PrC Unapproachable East 24 3 Saves -
    Mystic Wonderer PrC Magic of Faerun 35 3.5 AC -
    Mysticism Domain Complete Divine 140 3.5 Saves 1 rd per day per lvl
    Noble Scion Feat The Inner Sea World Guide ? PF Initiative Replaces Dex
    Nymph (+7 LA, 6HD) Race MM 197 3.5 AC -
    Nymph (+7 LA, 6HD) Race MM 197 3.5 Saves -
    Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide ? PF All Knowledge Replaces Int
    Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide ? PF AC & Ref Saves Replaces Dex
    Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide ? PF AC & CMD Replaces Dex
    Paladin 1 Class PHB 42 3.5 To-Hit Smite Evil, limited times per day
    Paladin 1 Class PF Core ? PF To-Hit Smite Evil, limited times per day
    Paladin 2 Class PHB 42 3.5 Saves -
    Paladin 2 Sub level Champions of Valor 48 3.5 AC Replaces Divine Grace
    Paladin 2 Class PF Core ? PF Saves -
    Paladin 2 Class Ultimate Combat ? PF Damage Holy Gun Archetype, guns vs evil
    Platinum Knight 5 PrC Draconomicon 137 3.5 Saves vs. Evil dragons
    Risen Martyr 2 PrC BoED 68 3.5 AC -
    Ritual of Blood Spell Player's Guide to Eberron 23 3.5 Hit Points One time bonus, suffer -2 Con
    Ruin Delver's Fortune Spell Spell Compendium 178 3.5 Saves One Save of your choice
    Samurai 3 Class Complete Warrior 9 3.5 Damage limited uses based on lvl
    Shaman 5 Class Oriental Adventures 24 3.5 Saves -
    Sirine's Grace Spell Spell Compendium 191 3.5 AC -
    Slayer of Domiel 2 PrC BoED 73 3.5 Saves -
    Slippers of Battledancing Equipment DMGII 272 3.5 To-Hit Limitations
    Slippers of Battledancing Equipment DMGII 272 3.5 Damage Limitations
    Smite Fiery Foe Feat Frostburn 50 3.5 To-Hit Smite Fire subtype, limited uses
    Snowflake Wardance Feat Frostburn 50 3.5 To-Hit requires Bard music
    Soldier of Light PrC Deities & Demigods 208 3.5 Saves -
    Soulborn 1 Class Magic of Incarnum 25 3.5 To-Hit Smite Opposition, limited times per day
    Spiritual Force Feat Races of Eberron 113 3.5 Damage requires Kalashtar
    Swiftblade 2 PrC Online NA 3.5 Initiative Uses primary caster statistic
    Tattooed Monk 5 PrC Complete Warrior 82 3.5 Any attribute (including Cha) limited uses
    Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium 220 3.5 To-Hit Uses primary caster statistic
    Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium 220 3.5 Damage Uses primary caster statistic
    Tomb Warden 3 PrC Libris Mortis 58 3.5 To-Hit 10 min/day
    Tomb Warden 3 PrC Libris Mortis 58 3.5 Damage 10 min/day
    Tomb Warden 3 PrC Libris Mortis 58 3.5 Saves 10 min/day
    Undead Type MM 317 3.5 Concentration -
    Undersong Spell Spell Compendium 227 3.5 Concentration Uses Perform Check
    Unholy Scion (+5 LA) Race Heroes of Horror 156 3.5 AC Deflection
    Unholy Toughness Racial Ability MMIII, others Varies 3.5 Hit Points -
    Unnatural Will Feat Heroes of Horror 124 3.5 Will Saves vs. Fear
    Walker in the Waste 10 PrC Sandstorm 89 3.5 Hit Points -
    Warmage 1/3/5 PrC Dragonlance ? 3.5 AC 1/2/3 allies
    Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium 238 3.5 To-Hit Uses primary caster statistic
    Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium 238 3.5 Damage Uses primary caster statistic
    Wilder Class Expanded Psionics Handbook 29 3.5 Touch AC cannot exceed normal AC
    Witch Hunter 1 PrC Oriental Adventures 54 3.5 Saves -

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    AC
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    Attribute Name Type Book
    Page #
    Edition
    Bonus
    Charisma Apparition Ribbon Feat or Class Magic of Incarnum
    ?
    3.0
    AC
    Charisma Arcane Duelist 2 PrC Online
    NA
    3.0
    AC
    Charisma Ascetic Mage Feat Complete Adventurer
    105
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Astral Stalker (+6 LA) Race MM3
    12
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Battle Dancer Class DragMag#159/DragComp
    26
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Battledance Epic Feat Dragon #297
    28
    3.0
    AC
    Charisma Combat Panache Feat PHBII
    93
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Divine Shield Feat Complete Warrior
    106
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Dread Pirate 9 PrC Complete Adventurer
    39
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Gloura (+2 LA, 7HD) Template Underdark
    88
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Grimwierd (+3 LA, 12 HD) PrC MMIII
    75
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Incorporeal Sub-type MM
    310
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Knight of the Sacred Seal 2 PrC Tome of Magic
    54
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Mystic Wonderer PrC Magic of Faerun
    35
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Nymph (+7 LA, 6HD) Race MM
    197
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Paladin 2 Sub level Champions of Valor
    48
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Risen Martyr 2 PrC BoED
    68
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Sirine's Grace Spell Spell Compendium
    191
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Unholy Scion (+5 LA) Race Heroes of Horror
    156
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Warmage 1/3/5 PrC Dragonlance
    ?
    3.5
    AC
    Charisma Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide
    ?
    PF
    AC & CMD
    Charisma Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide
    ?
    PF
    AC & Ref Saves
    Charisma Wilder Class Expanded Psionics Handbook
    29
    3.5
    Touch AC
    Constitution Deepwarden 2 PrC Races of Stone
    105
    3.5
    AC
    Constitution Fist of the Forest PrC Complete Champion
    80
    3.5
    AC
    Constitution Forsaker PrC Masters of the Wild
    57
    3.0
    AC
    Constitution Improved Bind Vestige Feat Tome of Magic
    73
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Ascetic Psion Feat Secrets of Sarlona
    115
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Blade Singer 1 PrC Complete Warrior
    17
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Control Body Power Expanded Psionics Handbook
    86
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Duelist 1 PrC DMG
    185
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Duelist 1 PrC PF Core
    ?
    PF
    AC
    Intelligence Eternal Blade 6 PrC Tome of Battle
    110
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Factotum 16 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Factotum 3 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Iaijutsu Master 1 PrC Oriental Adventures
    41
    3.0
    Intelligence Invisible Blade 1 PrC Complete Warrior
    44
    3.5
    AC
    Intelligence Magus 1 Class Ultimate Combat
    ?
    PF
    AC
    Intelligence Mantis Mercenary 5 PrC Oriental Adventures
    231
    3.0
    AC
    Intelligence Student of War 2 PrC PF Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets
    ?
    PF
    AC
    Intelligence Carmendine Monk Feat Champions of Valor
    28
    3.5
    AC, Monk Powers
    Intelligence Kung Fu Genius Feat 319
    71
    3.5
    AC, Monk Powers
    Wisdom Balance Domain Player's Guide to Faerun
    84
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Dragon Warrior 2 PrC Dragon #298
    104
    3.0
    AC
    Wisdom Dungeoneers Intuition Feat Waterdeep
    144
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Mantis Mercenary 5 PrC Oriental Adventures
    231
    3.0
    AC
    Wisdom Monk 1 Class PHB
    39
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Monk 1 Class Core
    ?
    PF
    AC
    Wisdom Monk's Belt Equipment DMG
    248
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Moon-Warded Ranger 2 Sub level Dragon #340
    55
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Ninja 1 Class Complete Adventurer
    5
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Saint (+2 LA) Template BoED
    185
    3.5
    AC
    Wisdom Sword Sage 2 Class Tome of Battle
    16
    3.5
    AC
    Damage
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    Attribute Name Type Book
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    Edition
    Bonus
    Charisma Avenging Strike Feat Tome of Battle
    28
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Bow of Song Equipment Magic Item Comp
    48
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Divine Might Feat Complete Warrior
    106
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Divine Might Feat Online
    NA
    3.0
    Damage
    Charisma Gauntlets of Heartfelt Blows Equipment Dragon #314
    22
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Gunslinger 1 Class Ultimate Combat
    ?
    PF
    Damage
    Charisma Hexband Equipment Magic Item Comp
    122
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Iajutsu Master 5 PrC Oriental Adventures
    41
    3.0
    Damage
    Charisma Larethian Protector Equipment Arms & Equip Guide
    122
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Paladin 2 Class Ultimate Combat
    ?
    PF
    Damage
    Charisma Samurai 3 Class Complete Warrior
    9
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Slippers of Battledancing Equipment DMGII
    272
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Spiritual Force Feat Races of Eberron
    113
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium
    220
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Tomb Warden 3 PrC Libris Mortis
    58
    3.5
    Damage
    Charisma Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium
    238
    3.5
    Damage
    Constitution Greater Insightful Strike Maneuver Tome of Battle
    62
    3.5
    Damage
    Constitution Hammer of Earth Equipment Magic of Rokugen
    66
    3.0
    Damage
    Constitution Insightful Strike Maneuver Tome of Battle
    62
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Agile enchantment Equipment Society Field Guide
    ?
    PF
    Damage
    Dexterity Champion of C.L. 2 PrC Races of the Wild
    113
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Corsair 9 PrC Dragon #321
    86
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Dead Eye Feat Dragon Comp
    108
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Fierce enchantment Equipment Arms & Equip Guide
    96
    3.0
    Damage
    Dexterity Fighter 1 Alt Class Feature Dragon #310
    39
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Fighter 1 Alt Class Feature Drow of the Underdark
    58
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity | Musket Master Archetype (Gunslinger) Ult Combat |
    51
    PF
    Damage
    Dexterity Shadow Blade Feat Tome of Battle
    32
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Sword of Graceful Strikes Equipment Arms & Equip Guide
    120
    3.0
    Damage
    Dexterity Crossbow Sniper Feat PHBII
    77
    3.5
    Damage
    Dexterity Dervish Dance Feat The Inner Sea World Guide
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    PF
    To-Hit & Damage
    Intelligence Control Body Power Expanded Psionics Handbook
    86
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Darkrunner 8 PrC Lords of Madness
    187
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Eternal Blade 1 PrC Tome of Battle
    110
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Factotum 1 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Swashbuckler 3 Class Complete Warrior
    11
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium
    220
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Warblade 15 Class Tome of Battle
    22
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Warblade 7 Class Tome of Battle
    22
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Warmage 1 Class Complete Arcane
    22
    3.5
    Damage
    Intelligence Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium
    238
    3.5
    Damage
    Strength Composite Bow Equipment PHB
    117
    3.5
    Damage
    Wisdom Battlesmith 1 PrC Races of Stone
    96
    3.5
    Damage
    Wisdom Illumian (Aeshhoon) Race Races of Destiny
    54
    3.5
    Damage
    Wisdom Ordained Champion 5 PrC Complete Champion
    91
    3.5
    Damage
    Wisdom Sacred Fist 4 PrC Complete Divine
    59
    3.5
    Damage
    Wisdom Shiba Protector 1 PrC Oriental Adventures
    222
    3.0
    Damage
    Wisdom Soulbow 1 PrC Complete Psionics
    36
    3.5
    Damage
    Wisdom Sword Sage 4 & 12 Class Tome of Battle
    16
    3.5
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    Hit Points
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    Charisma Beauty's Bounty Feat Online
    NA
    3.5
    Hit Points
    Charisma Dry Lich Template Sandstorm
    155
    3.5
    Hit Points
    Charisma Ritual of Blood Spell Player's Guide to Eberron
    23
    3.5
    Hit Points
    Charisma Unholy Toughness Racial Ability MMIII, others
    Varies
    3.5
    Hit Points
    Charisma Walker in the Waste 10 PrC Sandstorm
    89
    3.5
    Hit Points
    Intelligence Faerie Mysteries Init. Feat Dragon 319
    58
    3.5
    Hit Points
    Wisdom Dragon Warrior 1 PrC Dragon #298
    104
    3.0
    Hit Points
    Initiative
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    Charisma Iajutsu Master 2 PrC Oriental Adventures
    41
    3.0
    Initiative
    Charisma Swiftblade 2 PrC Online
    NA
    3.5
    Initiative
    Charisma Noble Scion Feat The Inner Sea World Guide
    ?
    PF
    Initiative
    Intelligence Bayushi Deceiver 2 PrC Oriental Adventures
    225
    3.0
    Initiative
    Intelligence Darkrunner 3 PrC Lords of Madness
    187
    3.5
    Initiative
    Intelligence Exemplar 8 PrC Complete Adventurer
    44
    3.5
    Initiative
    Intelligence Swiftblade 4 PrC Online
    NA
    3.5
    Initiative
    Wisdom Inquisitor 2 Class Adv Player's Guide
    ?
    PF
    Initiative
    Wisdom Yondalla's Sense Races of the Wild
    152
    3.5
    Initiative
    Saves
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    Bonus
    Charisma Battledance Epic Feat Dragon #297
    28
    3.0
    Reflex Saves
    Charisma Knight of the Sacred Seal 2 PrC Tome of Magic
    54
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Charisma Akodo Champion 2 PrC Oriental Adventures
    220
    3.0
    Saves
    Charisma Astral Stalker (+6 LA) Race MM3
    12
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Blackguard 2 PrC DMG
    181
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Corrupt Avenger 3 PrC Heroes of Horror
    88
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Defiant 2 PrC Planar Handbook
    44
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Eldeen Ranger 3 PrC Eberron Campaign Setting
    74
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Evil Blessing Feat Elder Evils
    13
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Gloura (+2 LA, 7HD) Template Underdark
    88
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Grimwierd (+3 LA, 12 HD) PrC MMIII
    75
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Gwenyfhar PrC BoED
    56
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Hexblade 2 Class Complete Warrior
    5
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Holy Liberator 4 PrC Complete Divine
    45
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Justicar of Tyr 5 PrC Player's Guide to Faerun
    65
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Martyred Champion 4 PrC Player's Guide to Faerun
    184
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Master of Yuirwood 9 PrC Unapproachable East
    24
    3.0
    Saves
    Charisma Mysticism Domain Complete Divine
    140
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Nymph (+7 LA, 6HD) Race MM
    197
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Paladin 2 Class PHB
    42
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Paladin 2 Class PF Core
    ?
    PF
    Saves
    Charisma Platinum Knight 5 PrC Draconomicon
    137
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Ruin Delver's Fortune Spell Spell Compendium
    178
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Shaman 5 Class Oriental Adventures
    24
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Slayer of Domiel 2 PrC BoED
    73
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Soldier of Light PrC Deities & Demigods
    208
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Tomb Warden 3 PrC Libris Mortis
    58
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Witch Hunter 1 PrC Oriental Adventures
    54
    3.5
    Saves
    Charisma Crusader 2 Class Tome of Battle
    11
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Charisma Force of Personality Feat Complete Adventurer
    109
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Charisma Unnatural Will Feat Heroes of Horror
    124
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Charisma Exemplar 4 PrC Complete Adventurer
    44
    3.5
    Fort Saves
    Charisma Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide
    ?
    PF
    AC & Ref Saves
    Constitution Action Before Thought Maneuver Tome of Battle
    62
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Constitution Kensai PrC Complete Warrior
    49
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Constitution Bloodhound Class Complete Adventurer
    28
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Constitution Moment of Perfect Mind Maneuver Tome of Battle
    63
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Constitution Perfected One Epic PrC Dragon #297
    56
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Constitution Steadfast Determination Feat PHBII
    83
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Constitution Warforged Paladin Sub Level Races of Eberron
    132
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Constitution Mind Over Body Maneuver Tome of Battle
    63
    3.5
    Fort Saves
    Dexterity Perfected One Epic PrC Dragons #297
    56
    3.5
    Fort Saves
    Intelligence Exemplar 8 PrC Complete Adventurer
    44
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Intelligence Insightful Reflexes Feat Complete Adventurer
    110
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Intelligence Warblade 1 Class Tome of Battle
    22
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Intelligence Factotum 1 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    Saves
    Intelligence Nightcloak 7 PrC Complete Divine WE
    NA
    3.5
    Saves
    Intelligence Keen Intellect Feat Dragon #318
    38
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Intelligence Diviner 1 Class UA
    60
    3.5
    attack, save, skill, or level check
    Strength Channeled Rage Feat Races of Destiny
    150
    3.5
    Will Saves
    Wisdom Illumian (Uurhuun) Race Races of Destiny
    54
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Wisdom Perfected One PrC Dragon #297
    56
    3.5
    Reflex Saves
    Wisdom Hunter of the Dead 3 PrC Complete Warrior
    43
    3.5
    Saves
    Wisdom Mortal Hunter 5 PrC BoVD
    65
    3.5
    Saves
    Wisdom Serenity Dragon Mag #306, Drag Comp
    106
    3.5
    Saves
    Wisdom Citadel Elite 5 PrC Sharn
    165
    3.5
    Fort Saves
    Wisdom Impure Prince 4 PrC Magic of Eberron
    74
    3.5
    Fort Saves
    Skills
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    Charisma Marshall 1 Class Miniatures
    11
    3.5
    Varies
    Charisma Oracle 1 Class Adv Player's Guide
    ?
    PF
    All Knowledge
    Charisma Halfling Domain Player's Guide to Faerun
    87
    3.5
    Climb, Jump, Hide, Move Silently
    Charisma Exemplar 4 PrC Complete Adventurer
    44
    3.5
    Concentration
    Charisma Undead Type MM
    317
    3.5
    Concentration
    Charisma Undersong Spell Spell Compendium
    227
    3.5
    Concentration
    Charisma Azurin Cleric 1 Sub level Magic of Incarnum
    43
    3.5
    Essentia
    Charisma Mantle of Freedom Feat Dungeon #104
    ?
    3.5
    Grapple, Escape Artist
    Dexterity Tactile Trapsmith Feat Complete Adventurer
    112
    3.5
    Disable Device and Search
    Dexterity Boots of Agile Leaping Equipment Magic Item Comp
    76
    3.5
    Jump
    Dexterity Agile Athlete Feat Races of the Wild
    148
    3.5
    Jump and Climb
    Dexterity Muckdweller Race Serpent Kingdoms
    71
    3.5
    Swim checks
    Intelligence Diviner 1 Class UA
    60
    3.5
    attack, save, skill, or level check
    Intelligence Disciple of Baalzebul 2 PrC BoVD
    ?
    3.0
    Bluff
    Intelligence Montebank 1 PrC Complete Scoundrel
    57
    3.5
    Bluff
    Intelligence Rapscallion Feat Dragon 315
    54
    3.5
    Bluff
    Intelligence Warblade 3 Class Tome of Battle
    22
    3.5
    Critical Confirmation Rolls
    Intelligence Factotum 3 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    Dex checks and Skills
    Intelligence Illusionist Variant Unearthed Arcana
    63
    3.5
    Hide
    Intelligence Factotum 3 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    Str checks and Skills
    Strength Intimidating Prowess Feat PF Core
    ?
    PF
    Intimidate
    Wisdom Cloud Anchorite PrC Frostburn
    52
    3.5
    Balance, Climb, & Jump
    Wisdom Inquisitor 1 Class Ultimate Magic
    ?
    PF
    Bluff & Diplomacy
    Wisdom Inquisitor 1 Class Ultimate Magic
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    PF
    Bluff & Stealth
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    Charisma Avenging Strike Feat Tome of Battle
    28
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Battledance Epic Feat Dragon #297
    28
    3.0
    To-Hit
    Charisma Blackguard 2 PrC DMG
    182
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Bow of Song Equipment Magic Item Comp
    48
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Chameleon 3 PrC Races of Destiny
    112
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Charming the Arrow Feat Online
    NA
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Justicar 2 PrC Seven Days to the Grave
    ?
    PF
    To-Hit
    Charisma Killoren (Destroyer Aspect) Race Races of the Wild
    102
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Paladin 1 Class PHB
    42
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Paladin 1 Class PF Core
    ?
    PF
    To-Hit
    Charisma Slippers of Battledancing Equipment DMGII
    272
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Smite Fiery Foe Feat Frostburn
    50
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Snowflake Wardance Feat Frostburn
    50
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Soulborn 1 Class Magic of Incarnum
    25
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium
    220
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Tomb Warden 3 PrC Libris Mortis
    58
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Charisma Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium
    238
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Constitution Mineral Warrior (+1LA) Template Underdark
    96
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Dexterity Fey-craft Equipment DMGII
    275
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Dexterity Weapon Finesse Feat PHB
    102
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Dexterity Weapon Finesse Feat PF Core
    ?
    PF
    To-Hit
    Dexterity Companion Guard Style Feat Dragon #315
    52
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Dexterity Dervish Dance Feat The Inner Sea World Guide
    ?
    PF
    To-Hit & Damage
    Intelligence Control Body Power Expanded Psionics Handbook
    86
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Intelligence Eternal Blade 1 PrC Tome of Battle
    110
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Intelligence Factotum 1 Class Dungeonscape
    14
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Intelligence Thunder Lance Spell Spell Compendium
    220
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Intelligence Whirling Blade Spell Spell Compendium
    238
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Intelligence Diviner 1 Class UA
    60
    3.5
    attack, save, skill, or level check
    Strength Brutal Throw Feat Complete Adventurer
    106
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Guided Hand Feat Ultimate Combat
    ?
    PF
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Intuitive Strike BoED
    44
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Monk 3 Class Adv Player's Guide
    ?
    PF
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Ordained Champion 5 PrC Complete Champion
    91
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Serenity Dragon Mag #306, Drag Comp
    106
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Shiba Protector 1 PrC Oriental Adventures
    222
    3.0
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Watery Death Domain Player's Guide to Faerun
    92
    3.5
    To-Hit
    Wisdom Zen Archery Complete Warrior
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    When using X to Y, consider the following:

    1) How much of a bonus am I getting? If my Dex is 18 and my Str is 14, then it's probably not worth spending a feat on Weapon Finesse to get a +2 bonus to hit with limited melee weapons. But if my Dex is 20 and my Str is 10, then it probably is.

    2) Can I get more by investing the same resources elsewhere? You can add your Dex to damage with the Shadow Blade feat (with minor limitations). Nifty, right? But you can add your class level to Sneak Attack damage with the Craven feat. So if your class level is higher then your Dex, and most of your attacks are Sneak Attacks, then Craven is a better investment.

    3) Can I do something more powerful or interesting by investing the same resources elsewhere? You can add your Int to damage with Swashbuckler 3. That's nifty for low level builds with high Int. But for mid-high level builds, with the same 3 class levels you can accomplish a whole lot more with virtually any other class (excluding Monk, Samurai, etc).

    4) Don't neglect your hit points. This is often a problem for Dex based builds, but it's worth re-iterating for everyone. The most important defense you have is hit points. Even with ridiculous Saves and AC, it's only a matter of time before you roll a natural 1 or some enemy rolls a natural 20. And when that happens, usually the only thing standing between you and death is your hit point total. Usually this means having respectable Con, being Undead to get Cha to hit points, or drugging your DM so he lets you use Faerie Mysteries Initiate or some other obscure feat.

    So to summarize, X to Y is awesome. But be wary of the investment.

    Builds:

    King of Pong
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    This is a riff on Darrin's build, which I'm not going to re-post here because it's too long. Basically, combine your choice of the following:

    High Str
    Brutal Throw feat (Str To-Hit with Thrown Weapons)
    Fighter 6 (for Dungeoncrasher)
    War Mind (for Expansion and Sweeping Strike)
    Hulking Hurler (for Really Throw Anything)
    Bloodstorm Blade's Thunderous Throw (treat thrown weapons as melee attacks, so you can apply Power Attack and Knockback)
    War Hulk (for massive Str)
    Divine Power (to replace BAB lost from War Hulk)
    Master Thrower (for tricks)
    Power Attack, Knock-Back, Shock Trooper (to bounce enemies around)

    A simple, fun combo that can be scaled up or down in power for any occasion.

    Can't Touch This
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    Dwarf

    Ranger 3/Monk 2/Fist of the Forest 1/Deepwarden 2/Kensai 5

    or

    Warblade X/Fist of the Forest 1/Deepwarden 2

    Ranger provides the Endurance feat and Skill pre-reqs for Fist of the Forest and Deepwarden. But you can swap it out for Dwarf Paragon or Factotum or various other base classes, as long as you can cobble together what you need.

    Monk provides Evasion and Improved Unarmed Strike (pre-req for FotF). But you can swap this out as well.

    Fist of the Forest grants you your Con to AC while unarmored.

    Deepwarden grants you your Con to AC (replacing Dex).

    The Steadfast Determination feat (requires Endurance) lets you replace your Wis with Con for Will Saves.

    Along with various other buffs, Kensai lets you replace Reflex Saves with Concentration checks.

    Warblade can replace any Save with a Concentration check if you have the right manuevers. But be mindful that they're Immediate Actions, so you can only do so once per turn, and once per encounter (until you re-fill your manuevers). He can also get his Con to damage (twice!) with Greater Insightful Strike (once per encounter until you re-charge your manuevers).

    If your DM lets you use 3.0 sources, be sure to buy a Hammer of Earth for Con to damage. But with full-ish BAB and Power Attack, you won't need it.

    It's also worth mentioning that the Totemist (Magic of Incarnum) gets powers based on Con, in case you want a Con SAD build.

    Put them together, and you get one heck of a Tank. Your AC (including your Touch AC) should be pretty ridiculous. Your Saves should be equally ridiculous, and it's not that hard to get Evasion (and Mettle, if you really care, but it's rarely useful).

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    Elan Paladin 4/Sanctified Mind 1/War Mind 5/Sanctified Mind 2-6
    A Paladin using the Serenity feat (Dragon Magazine, also on Crystalkeep) uses Wis instead of Cha for all of his class abilities. So now your Wis improves all of your Saves (and it effectively doubles up on your Will Save), and you can use it for Smite (bonus to hit) and Turn Undead uses (various Divine feats).

    Sanctified Mind (Lords of Madness) is 6 level, full BAB PrC which provides 5/6 caster or manifester progression (player's choice, and you can explicitly change which you take each level) with the dead level being the first level of the class. Unlike most other classes, you can enter it at ECL 5. It also has some semi-useful class abilities, including Power Resistance based on your HD, which counts as Spell Resistance if your DM is using the transparency rules.

    War Mind is a nifty PrC. His best class feature is Sweeping Strike, which can be abused all kinds of ways with Attack of Opportunity combos. But he also gets Wis based Psychic Warrior power progression. It's relatively fast progression, too. At ECL 15, you essentially have the same powers as a 15th level Psychic Warrior.

    Intuitive Attack (Book of Exalted Deeds) which allows you to use your Wis bonus for your To-Hit bonus with simple or natural weapons.

    Enhanced Elan Resilience (Complete Psionic) improves your Elan ability to spend your Power Points (based on Wis) to negate damage to 4 points per power point spent. You can also burn 1 point to get +4 to your Saves for 1 round. Though you need to be careful about this, as both are an Immediate Action, and thus can be done once per round. Alternatively or in addition, you can also get temporary hit points with the Vigor power, and/or heal with Hostile Empathic Transfer when you need to. And/or you can set up the standard Claws of the Beast + Claws of the Vampire + Expansion combo. Just be mindful that you have very limited power points (though you're helped out by bonus power points from a high Wis).

    And Mage Slayer feats have no effect on caster levels, as the transparency rules have no effect on feats (otherwise a Psychic Warrior could take Practiced Caster and metamagic feats, which they can't). So casters have a lot to fear from you.

    Buy a Monk's Belt, and you get Wis to AC (including Touch AC). Improve both AC's even higher by using the Shield and Inertial Armor powers. And since you're not wearing armor, you can buy a Ring of Evasion, just to be extra cautious.

    To top it off, take a look at the Travel Devotion (Complete Champion) to get free movement every turn, so that you can make a full attack every round. (Not that you need it. You have Hustle. But it's nice to be thorough).

    Put it all together, and you get a PC who has Wis based Turn Undead, Saves, To-Hit, AC, and (essentially) hit points, with full BAB, 15th level Psychic Warrior abilities, plenty of divine and psionic options, and numerous useful class abilities.

    Anybody with High Cha
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    Cha is the big winner for X to Y. It's really easy to base all or most of your bonuses of of just Cha. In particular, Bards and Hexblade/Blackguards (or Paladins of Tyranny) get a lot of millage out of it. But be wary of the investment. Some Cha based bonuses have limited uses (Smite anything, Snowflake Wardance) or can't be afforded until mid levels (Slippers of Battledancing).


    Feel free to make corrections, clear up citation errors, discuss the benefits of X to Y, or post your builds that rely on X to Y, especially SAD (Single Attribute Dependence) builds.

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    Default Re: [3.x] X stat to Y bonus

    Great rewrite of an already awesome resource. The table format makes it a lot nicer to look at.

    One problem, though, is that under Intelligence, you list a lot of things as being from Tome of Battle that are not in fact from Tome of Battle. I don't recall offhand where all of them are from, but I think you should double-check where all of the things you listed as ToB are actually from.
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers ALL HAIL KING TORG!

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    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    Do you play 4e? I wrote a guide to Truenamers in 4e as well!
    Here's something I homebrewed. (It's not Truenamer-related, honest.) PEACH!

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    Default Re: [3.x] X stat to Y bonus

    Very impressive, I believe I have one not on your list.
    The Soulborn (magic of incarnum p25) get smite opposition it's exacly like smite evil from the paladin except it work on creature with at least on component of their alignement opposing yours. ( a lawfull good soulborn can smite evil and/or chaotique creature)
    Latest homebrew: The Avatars of Magic, powerful monster each dedicated to ne school of magic.

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    Mirar, Bizarre human Focused Conjurer/Master specialist (summoning specialist)
    Xilef, shifter Druid 8//Barbarian 5/Weretouched master 3
    Other Character.

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    Default Re: [3.x] X stat to Y bonus

    I wish there was a sticky-ed thread similar to the way Char op boards used to be with all the handbooks and stuff. I miss that resource plus im sure theres a ton of awsome threds on this forum that would be good to have links to.
    When the end comes i shall remember you.

    I sorry i fail Englimish...(appologise for Spelling/Grammer Errors) Please don't correct my spelling or grammer eaither.

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    Thanks for the addition and corrections. There are still a lot of ? out there. I'll do my best to look them up, but if people could help, it'd be very appreciated. Comments and builds are also welcome. Thanks.

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    Soulborn is page 25, it was in my post, just a minor correction.

    Still in Magic of incarnum, I just find the Azurin cleric racial sub level, instead of turn or rebuk undead the can gain bonus essentia equal to Cha mor or half cleric level wichever is lower (minimum 1). For one round.
    It's pretty specific and less usefull than turn or rebuk undead but for completness sake it might be nice to add it. It's page 43.
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    This will help my builds tremendously, so I must thank you, PM. This is one of the few nice things about sticking with an out-of-print RPG: this list isn't gonna be made obsolete by future published material. This list is duly yoinked.

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    Extremely helpful. Thank you for this.

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    Agreed, thank you. This is awesome.

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    I like this index, but it has a lot of problems. Just from browsing:

    The int->hp is a drag mag. I looked it up myself and it rocks. I forgot the #
    The dragon warrior wis->hp is only at each PrC's class level.
    Beauties bounty is only for 1st level HP
    The shifter druid racial sub is for shifting, not wildshaping.

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    I've found no Ritual of Blood in Player's Guide to Eberron. How can I get my CHA bonus to HP if not undead?
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    Keen Intellect feat has been updated to 3.5 in Dragon Magazine #318, p. 38.
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    Seeing that someone ressurect the thread:
    I've found another one not in the list, The diviner variant from UA p60 can add his Int mot as an Insight bonus to attack roll, saving throw, skill check or level check. It's once per day + once per five class level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endarire View Post
    I've found no Ritual of Blood in Player's Guide to Eberron. How can I get my CHA bonus to HP if not undead?
    It's there, but not usually worth it. It lowers your CON score by 2 permanently, and you only get CHA to HP once, not once per HD.

    What does give CHA to HP is the Dry Lich and other Undead with Unholy Toughness.

    Also, the Scouring Stanchion (MM5, pg. 145) has Structural Integrity (Ex) which also grants CHA to HP for every HD, and is a Construct, so might even be better than the Unholy Toughness ability. Also, it's (Ex), so it's easier to get - at least if you somehow become a 30 HD Construct...
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    dead eye p. 108

    don't forget vital aim targetteer p.39 drag mag 310 for dex->dam if flatfooted (replaces but not for penalties)

    Companion Guard Style 315 p.52 elf only

    Bayushi Deceiver 2 is the level u want

    Ascetic Psion is 115

    You really should mention that the keen intellect is updated and includes some skills too

    Strength of the Charger might be worth a mention

    warmage is page 10

    That sorc dwarf sub is really far in so its not worth the bonus spells

    why does anyone give a poo about Magic of Rokugen? Its publisher is Alderac Entertainment Group, whoever that is.

    Battle Dancer is a base class, not a PrC

    Gwenyfhar gets divine grace at level 2. It doesn't stack with a pally's

    Gloura are not a template.

    All five of the race's charisma AC bonus should be deflection, though the Gloura one is not RAW

    Iajutsu Master 5 should mention it adds Wis multiple times

    Mystic Wonderer gains the Cha AC bonus at level 1

    the swiftblade entry under cha is wrong (level 4 not 2)

    soldier of light gains divine grace at level 2

    a bit below that is "War_Mage" notice the space. Its in Age of Mortals. bonus is morale

    and u forgot battle dancer 1 (dragon compendium 29)

    divine might feat needs a mention its epic

    hexbands are 112

    Ritual of Blood is page 23. Are you sure its a 1 time bonus? The only limitation besides running out of con I can see is if the character's base con would run out while the magically boosted one would allow the ritual again.

    Undersong is 227

    also for charisma I can help you add DCS's Knight of the Skull 2. It has the black guard dark blessing ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlzBreakMyCmpAn View Post
    why does anyone give a poo about Magic of Rokugen? Its publisher is Alderac Entertainment Group, whoever that is.
    And the publisher of most of the Dragonlance books is not WotC either. However, both Rokugan and Dragonlance setting are officially licensed for 3.5 play by WotC. So they are both at about Dragon Magazine level. not WotC, but licensed by them.

    Also, Iaijutsu Master 5 is cha, not wis, and it can be multiple times. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible to only get 1 die at that point?


    Also Person_Man, you have Grimwierd listed as a PrC. Is this correct? I wonder, because it also has HD and LA listed with it.
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    The War of the Lance supplement for DragonLance (not WotC, but officially licensed) has the Master base class, and a master with the Sage focus can, after 1 round of combat, make a DC 15 Int check in order to use Int instead of Dex or Str on attack rolls for the duration of the combat. Probably less useful than some others, but since it only costs a 1 level dip and that level also gives you lots of skill points and a bonus to all knowledge checks, it might be worth it.

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    Looks like you're missing a few sources for feats in the "INT" table:

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    Faerie Mysteries Init. | Feat | Dragon #319 |
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    | Hit Points | Replaces Con
    Keen Intellect | Feat | Dragon #318 |
    38
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    3.5
    | Will Saves | Replaces Wis
    Kung Fu Genius | Feat | Dragon #319 |
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    3.5
    | AC, Monk Powers | Replaces Wis, Requires Monk
    Rapscallion | Feat | Dragon #315 |
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    Bold italics are the changes.

    Great resource by the way, thanks for this.

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    again, as a boards resource I figure this isn't necromancy. Person_man I hope you update this some time. Also you can use an excel spreadsheet to sort within your lists...

    Corrupt avenger needs a note that it doesn't stack with other divine grace-ish effects

    witch hunter gets its kami's grace at level 1

    divine mind also gets divine grace at 4

    risen martyr gets the cha to ac bonus at level 1

    gauntlets of heartfelt blows: 12k gp, page 22. its fire damage

    the divine might with a link needs a comment of epic at least

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    Sorry to do some semi-necromancy, but...

    Faerie Mysteries Initiate. Dragon Magazine #319, page 58.
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    Nah, you're good as long as it's within 2 months, I believe.

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    Yeah, this counts as sticky and therefore (I think?) can't be necro'd. Also, the cutoff for necromancy is a month and a half - ironically, neither Cardea nor PlzBreakMyCmpAn, who both were worried about necromancy, actually would have been necromancing had this not been stickied.

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    This thread needs a sticky, BAD.
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    I was looking for advice on the S.A.D. Charisma. Looks to me that to buff To Hit, you only get a few times per day. Whether it be through the song or a smite. A couple sample builds would also be nice.

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