[3.x] X stat to Y bonus

[Talionis]

from my understanding, since this thread is mentioned here, it is immune to the thread necromancy rules. of course, I could be wrong...

While I appreciate the picture I agree with you Varian. I thought this thread was one of those threads that was a reference.

I apologize, but this is a really cool thread that I reference a lot. I thought improvements to it would be appreciated by many not just me.

[Flickerdart]

As long as it's bumped, might be worth updating the incorrect information. For instance, Gloura is not a template, Grimweird is not a PrC and Mystic Wanderer is spelled with an A, not an O.

[Ryu_Bonkosi]

The posting rules don't have anything in the section of thread necromancy when it comes to threads mentioned in the notable threads sticky. Granted it is common sense, but by RAW (har har har) it is still thread necromancy.

[Greenish]

The "Can't touch this" build claims that Fist of the Forest requires Endurance, but it actually wants Great Fortitude.

It's a minor thing, sure, but that just means it'll annoy you that much more when your whole build trips over it.

[Kantolin]

Missing is Lurk 6, which gives you int to initiative (As well as dex). Complete Psionic, lurk is on page 11.

Also, um... while a pretty poor looking feat, the host feat 'Spiritual host' allows you to expend your psionic focus to get your charisma to mind blade damage for one round. Complete psionics, page 61... although it's probably not really worth mentioning. :P

[Jack_Simth]

Ah... well, if this thread is open, I might point out that the Gloura is not a template - it's a full creature (listed twice in the Charisma section).

[Douglas]

It would be really useful to have a note in the charisma table for which abilities are Divine Grace and which aren't. That would make it much easier to determine which combinations stack without looking each one up.

More generally, the name of each ability and type of bonus would be good information to have in the tables.

[Thespianus]

If Dragon Magazine articles are allowed in this thread: There's a Barbarian ACF that gives Strength to Intimidate instead of Charisma. The ACF is called "Fearsome Gaze" and is published in Dragon 349 (according to the Crystal Keep base class file)

[MammonAzrael]

*Approval initiated*

This that be replacing my bookmark of the old thread on the WotC boards. Thank you.

[Lateral]

Battle Dancer is a base class, not a PrC. Just pointing that out.

Also: six weeks exactly. Forty-two days. (Although... isn't this thread unkillable or something since it's on the notable threads list?)

[Jack_Simth]

Well, if this is still open, then I've got a correction: Gloura is not a template, it's a base race.

[Endarire]

Thank you, Person Man, for your great help in compiling this database and makin' it look perty.

[Dictum Mortuum]

Indeed, this is an awesome resource! Great job.

[KicktheCAN]

I noticed that this list is missing Mind Over Body from Dragon Magazine #315. It gives Intelligence or Charisma to Hit Points at 1st level along with some other nice things.

[Taelas]

It can be argued that it falls prey to the primary source rule for errata, as there is a maneuver called precisely the same from Tome of Battle.

(It's also possible Person_Man oversaw it for the same reason, as that maneuver is included in the list.)

As a side note, it was also published in Player's Guide to Faerûn, which is the most recent version of the feat. (It was first published in Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.)

[Hirax]

While this thread is necroed, might makes right doesn't replace CHA for your leadership score, if you take it you get both CHA and STR. Or am I missing something?

[Akisa]

Since this thread has been renecro, in Pathfinder Deverish Dancer replaces Str to Dex, for scimitar if you one hand it.

[Lateral]

Actually, I don't think this thread can be necromancied. There's at least one gap between posts that's clearly over the normal limit.

[Ryu_Bonkosi]

Since this thread has been renecro, in Pathfinder Deverish Dancer replaces Str to Dex, for scimitar if you one hand it.

I don't think this list includes Pathfinder, otherwise it would be tagged [3.P].

[LibraryOgre]

The Mod Wonder: Bumped Under Moderator Power.

[Person_Man]

Thanks for the commentary. In particular, thanks to grarrrg for compiling the Pathfinder material and PM'ing me. I'll review and make additions/corrections this week.

[Septimus]

I want to mention one thing:

Dex bonus to damage: Fighter Drow alternative class feature in Drow of the Underdark (p. 58).
Add Dexterity bonus to weapon damage to flat footed opponents less than 30' apart, lose heavy armor and tower shield proficiencies, and also gain +2 bonus to initiative.

[Larkas]

Hope this can be of help:

Sensei (Monk Archetype, from Ultimate Combat) has this:

Insightful Strike (Ex): At 2nd level, a sensei may use his Wisdom bonus in lieu of his Strength or Dexterity on attack rolls and combat maneuver checks with unarmed strikes or monk weapons. This ability replaces evasion and the bonus feat gained at 2nd level.

So, Wis to hit.

Furthermore, the feat under the name "Insightful Strike", from BoED, is actually called "Insightful Attack".

[Endarire]

FYI, it's 'Mystic Wanderer,' not 'Wonderer,' who adds her CHA bonus to AC. (This bonus is profane if the Wanderer's patron deity is evil, but sacred otherwise.)

[zhdarkstar]

I noticed that the Pathfinder section was missing the best weapon ability for monks and Wis casters from A History of Ashes, Guided. It doesn't give you a bonus or penalty for two-handed or off-hand so it's better used for TWF, shield users, and monk punchers. Being able to dump Str helps reduce MADness for Wis-focused melee characters.

It's still debatable on if it's usable for ranged weapons as per RAW because it doesn't specifically say melee weapons only. Theoretically, you could use it on composite bows and thrown weapons at the very least.

[LanSlyde]

stuff

This thread is two years old. Poking at its corpse is just being dishonorable.

[Darius Kane]

This thread is two years old.

Uh, no it isn't.

[Douglas]

This thread is two years old. Poking at its corpse is just being dishonorable.

This thread is a compilation of reference material, linked in the Notable Threads sticky, actively used by a lot of people, and maintained by a user who is currently active. I'm not sure if there's been an official statement, but past precedent is that this thread is a special exemption to the thread necromancy rules for these reasons. New things to add to the reference don't come along often, but when they do it is appropriate to post them.

[zhdarkstar]

This thread is two years old. Poking at its corpse is just being dishonorable.

All you have to do is look at the date from when the OP was last edited, 2/20/13. That was a little over a week ago. This thread is very much alive in terms of being a reference material.

[arawra]

Dex -> Damage [PF]

Musket Master Archetype (Gunslinger)

Musket Training (Ex)
Starting at 5th level, a musket master increases her skill with two-handed firearms. She gains a bonus on damage rolls equal to her Dexterity modifier, and when she misfires with a two-handed firearm, the misfire value increases by 2 instead of 4. Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the bonus on damage rolls increases by +1. At 13th level, a musket master never misfires with a two-handed firearm.

This replaces gun training 1, 2, 3, and 4.

I think this would be an amazing character choice as it allows you to throw everything into Dex, making you a dex-dodging machine. With the Gunslinger's higher wisdom and good fort save, you should be able to kill anything before it touches you.