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    No, we just like killing people who aren't like us. It's what we do...

    And we can't fly, we can hardly swim, and we run almost 1/4 as fast as a Wombat, who are known for their laziness.
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    So how did two guys who are in school together come to be on this site anyway?
    We were introduced to GitP by a mutual friend. In fact, there are 6 of us on this site now ("us" being people in our circle of friends). Shadow and I are just the only particularly active ones. Three are lurkers (I believe one has never posted).

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    You know, when we feel like it, we can kill anything and everything in any ocean you can care to name.
    We can't even find most of 'em. Besides, that only puts us on par with bacteria.
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    Yeah, being a mammal sucks.
    Mammals are boring and ugly. Give me red decorative feathers and the ability to gut a man with your feet any day.
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    ...Bacteria can't break the sound barrier. And it doesn't have nuclear weapons. If we wanted, we're pretty much the only species who can wipe out all life on earth...

    (And yes, even roaches are killed by radiation too. It just takes longer.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by V'icternus View Post
    ...Bacteria can't break the sound barrier. And it doesn't have nuclear weapons. If we wanted, we're pretty much the only species who can wipe out all life on earth...

    (And yes, even roaches are killed by radiation too. It just takes longer.)
    yes, we can end life, but also we'd most likely also kill ourselves in the process, thus rendering it a hollow victory with nothing to show.

    besides, if evolution is real, then Mother Nature would probably just start over.

    basically folks, ...the last time someone was as wrong as V'ic just was, was when a politician stepped off an aeroplane in 1939 waving a piece of paper in the air saying there will be no war with Germany. [to be redundant.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by V'icternus View Post
    ...Bacteria can't break the sound barrier.
    Sure they can. They have us.

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    And it doesn't have nuclear weapons. If we wanted, we're pretty much the only species who can wipe out all life on earth...
    Questionable value as a brag. I find it interesting that your concept of "rulership" seems to amount almost entirely to "murder". Bacteria would survive anything we could do. They've been found miles underground, metabolizing.
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    How am I wrong? We can end life. That includes us, us being alive, so it'd be pretty dumb, but we can.

    EDIT: Bacteria wont survive long if we turn the planet into a nuclear crater...

    And the way the world works is, if you can kill something, you're pretty much in charge of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V'icternus View Post
    How am I wrong? We can end life. That includes us, us being alive, so it'd be pretty dumb, but we can.
    My main question here is...why? Why is that victory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by V'icternus View Post
    How am I wrong? We can end life. That includes us, us being alive, so it'd be pretty dumb, but we can.
    I was referring to your initial statement about humans being the best.

    because I hate to say it to all you self-centered people... but we really and truly aren't.

    and that's even true for people who DON'T believe in, which I'm not even going to bring into the picture.

    Nature still has the world on strings. We just like to push our luck with things.
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    We're still the best. We're smart enough to overcome any other living being, even if we're still physically the lamest thing out there to be...

    ...I wanna be a Shark...

    Or a bird...

    Or a Komodo Dragon... yeah...

    ...Being Human is boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V'icternus View Post
    We're still the best. We're smart enough to overcome any other living being, even if we're still physically the lamest thing out there to be...

    ...I wanna be a Shark...

    Or a bird...

    Or a Komodo Dragon... yeah...

    ...Being Human is boring.
    *facepalm*
    the day we become the best is the day where we control the planet itself, everything in it, and every aspect of it.

    and while perhaps the technology of weather control, and perhaps even time control (longer days? I sure as hell am game for that) may exist, we still have to find out IF they do, and then HOW to whip Nature at her own game, which is HIGHLY unlikely.

    we just simply aren't cut out to last that long, really.
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    ...We are nature. Everything we do is nature. Even when we kill other nature. That's nature. Tools are nature. We're just thousands of times better at exploiting nature than anyone else.

    We don't need to control the planet to be the best. What other animal controls the planet?
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    well, there are apparently animals that have "terrirtory" that we don't dare venture into (except for those who either have balls of steel or brains of highschoolers idiots), we don't have the guts to cope with extreme temperatures like other animals do, the oceans are merely blockades that we have to travel over in some kind of artificial device (again, with a few exceptions. there are a few balls-out people worthy of being called awesome).

    think... we have trouble "living" outside of our cozy little shelters. even the "homeless" people still live in the human shelters we know as cities.

    all other animals are tough enough to adapt, or they die out. we're the only ones pansy enough to try and change things to siut our needs...

    and considering how much of the world is still vast, open land, I say we have a long way to go.
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    We still mould the world to our design when it suits us to make those "shelters". We're still the only ones who do that.

    The only reason we need to do that, is, of course, the aforementioned lame-assness of the Human body. I mean, even the fastest human wont outrun an angry Big Cat, and the strongest human will still be crushed by a Gorilla, and not even Crocodiles mess with Hippos, so we sure as hell wont.

    But, we can solve all these problems if we decide we don't care about these creatures lives, and we pull out our fancy "guns", and "shoot" them, so they're "dead".

    We're the best, but our bodies are lame, and not very fun. (Unless you like having all that extra Dexterity that we've got...)
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    We're the best, but our bodies are lame, and not very fun. (Unless you like having all that extra Dexterity that we've got...)
    that's too contradictory to be legitimate.

    think of the world as a fighting game where humans are a character with all sorts of cool psychic and magic tricks that can kill almost any other "character"[species] in one or two moves with the right techniques.

    the downside is, is that "character" can only take about 1 or two hits himself, from any of the other "characters", while the rest are much more versatile, and can last longer, but are not quite as powerful in terms of "Magic" [technology]

    would you call that character "the best"?

    I would hope not.
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    We still mould the world to our design when it suits us to make those "shelters". We're still the only ones who do that.
    No, we're not. Not even remotely. Sheesh.

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    But, we can solve all these problems if we decide we don't care about these creatures lives, and we pull out our fancy "guns", and "shoot" them, so they're "dead".
    Again, the only currency you seem to respect is killing. Why is that? It's not even very important. Nature respects survival and habitat. We occupy a fricken' tiny proportion of Earth's habitat (which is more three-dimensional than we like to think, and includes mostly ocean), and we haven't been around very long at all.
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    There are also more of us than there are of them, spread over more area, with better technology and a mental inclination to help other members of our race (when we have a common enemy, that is).

    So enter into your calculations the fact that, if that one human is killed, at least six more open fire at the same time.

    You know, if they had a reason to fight together.

    Also, we have our defense mechanisms, our ability to outsmart our opponents, etc, etc, etc.
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    There are also more of us than there are of them, spread over more area, with better technology and a mental inclination to help other members of our race (when we have a common enemy, that is).

    So enter into your calculations the fact that, if that one human is killed, at least six more open fire at the same time.

    You know, if they had a reason to fight together.

    Also, we have our defense mechanisms, our ability to outsmart our opponents, etc, etc, etc.
    like Pryan said. the only thing you seem to be focused on is killing. Nature isn't about killing, it's about survival and reproduction.

    "more of us than there are of them?"

    open your mind, boy... what the heck are you talking about?
    we've been pwned by INSECTS. when they infest a house, we move out, because those "exterminators" don't usually ever get them completely out.

    and I believe that animals have their own defense mechanisms as well. ours don't always work, is the problem, just like theirs don't always work.
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    ...Insects, we can best physically. It's not even hard...

    And yes, if you kill better than everything else, you win, because there's nothing to kill you, because you kill it.

    And as for survival, we manage that pretty well, too. That's why we build walls to keep out tigers, get guns to kill elephants and make magazines to get rid of all bu the toughest of bugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V'icternus View Post
    ...Insects, we can best physically. It's not even hard...

    And yes, if you kill better than everything else, you win, because there's nothing to kill you, because you kill it.

    And as for survival, we manage that pretty well, too. That's why we build walls to keep out tigers, get guns to kill elephants and make magazines to get rid of all but the toughest of bugs.
    so looks like we HAVEN'T mastered the world yet...

    yeah, you can smack a few flies that come into your house. ever faced a swarm of them though? sure you can smack around and pretend you know what you're doing, but their advantage is in the numbers that you said we had over most creatures, which we don't.

    and this is just insects, mind you. We still have the deserts, tundras, and oceans to master. look at your own country. looks like we humans haven't decided to "change the land to fit our needs" almost anywhere but the coasts. Why? because we wouldn't last 4.15 hours out there (except for, of course, the few elite badasses that we all know of)

    unless you take classes and such on the subject, human survival skills are actually pretty skanky at best.

    and the funny thing is, is if animals left their habitats, do you think humans would just suddenly start living in them?

    and yet look at the opposite end of the spectrum. if we decided to completely desert a city, how many hours do you think it would go uninhabited before animals started creeping in?

    and of course plants. are. everywhere.

    and they don't even MOVE.

    man, I could go on for hours here... and I don't know why.

    EDIT: that aside... continue with the random bantering. this debate is obviously over.
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    I wasn't saying that we're weak and helpless.
    I was just saying that we're not "the best", and that it should be obvious.

    but hey, it's 12:34AM. maybe that's why I'm nto thinking straight.
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    Again, we have poisons to kill everything that only we can survive, we have the smarts to kill all these things that are an apperant threat. We can defend ourselves in our territory, and if we run out of territory, we'll go get some more! It's called Land Development.

    We're nowhere near perfect, duh. Physically, we suck, but can beat most thing smaller than us. But we've made things to allow us to kill even the toughest of things that would dare attack us where we live.

    We're winning the war for survival, simply by scaring off anything that would hutn us with our loud guns, cars, bombs and rap artists.


    But that's nowhere near the point I'm trying to make! Just because we're the best, doesn't mean I wanna be one!

    So what if we're winning, and are likely to win? We're not having enough fun! I wanna fly! Or be a giant lizard! Or stalk the near endless seas, killing stupid tasty Humans!

    Everything else is cooler than us. We're the geeks of the Animal Kingdom. We're the smartest, and we rule the place, but we're not cool!

    Now Lions, they're cool. They sit around all day, chill out, kill things. That's cool.

    Komodo Dragons are cool. They're huge!

    Being a snake'd be weird, but awesome.

    Crocodile? Silent stalker of the Billabong? Hell yeah!

    Anything that can fly is awesome on that merit alone. I mean, flying!

    Of course, I'm biased towards flying... I've been a sky-boy since I was four.

    Frankly, if it weren't for all the technology, and specifically the internet, fast planes, TV and refrigerators, I wouldn't see any appeal in being human at all.

    After all, intelligence rarely leads to happiness...

    And I wanna be happy!

    ...Maybe I could mutate myself as a flying, super lizard thing of awesomeness, and become... "Something-guy!"
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    ^: AH! But then you would be a genetic-chimera freak and the only one of your kind and thus unhappy in terms of the genetic prerogative and loneliness and humans wanting to kill you.

    Eh, we're the only sapient species around for the time being, so there's a few perks that we get in terms of liscence to drive others to extinction in exchange for having to deal with existentialism.
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    atl;adr. you took long enough.

    [almost too long; almost didn't read, in case anyone was wondering. ]

    the thing I fail to see from your "logic" really is HOW we are "the best" when there are so many "restrictions" on things we do, owing to something or something else, done by nature.

    I mean, hell, even our efforts to keep pests out of our "lands" don't seem to be working. if we can't even do that, then we can't be the best that no one ever was.

    to tame beasts is our real tests, to rule them is our cause...
    each animal, to understand... the power that's inside...

    oh wait. psyche. it's not that easy.
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    ^: Aside from the heavy-handed biblical smackdowns on the part of the crazy animal gods, the pokemon thing really doesn't seem that bad.

    Other than the fact that psychopaths try to mug little kids by beating up their pets with their own pets.

    Well, it's sort of like doing the programming behind sawmill scanners. You have to be smart enough to do it.

    And dumb enough to want to do it.

    And that's pretty much how it is with sapience.

    It has its perks though, at least, on occasion.
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    I fail to see how something so contradictory can be true. that's the real issue here.

    he consistently says "we're the suckiest species in the world, but the best."

    I'm not sure if it's like this where he lives, but here in the states, that's called an oxymoron, or a contradicting statement.

    and therefore, it's either one or the other, and we've already scientifically proven that as pink bags of skin with no claws, fangs, wings, etc. we don't seem very high on the tier list.

    but I've been wrong before. not THIS wrong though.

    EDIT: and yes. I did notice a few similarites when I thought of Pokemon. it must be because I'm playing a ROM of leafGreen and I just hacked myself a shiny CELEBI.
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    <_< Aren't shiny pokemon supposed to actually be worse even though they're rarer?

    Something about their stat progression being skewed...

    mmm. Well, he's young yet and confused. I'm sure he'll figure it out eventually.

    I prefer to go with the circular statement that we are the best because we are capable of thinking that we are the best and articulating this thought and actually believing it.

    <_< If you spin enough BS into your delivery, you can get people to think you said something zen.
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