Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian and DM(s):

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Looks like I made an error in judging my distance. I thought that the distance between C11 and L17 was 60 ft. I assumed that since the horizontal distance was 60 feet, the total distance would have to be greater..

I should have just moved to A10 or something, but no, I had to cut it close.

I don't suppose I could adjust my position, since the only reason I had in choosing it was because I thought it was 60+ feet from him?

Edit: You should probably get a DM in on that choice.

[Olo Demonsbane]

Wait, what just happened? Did you do something different? Did you have an immediate? Sharnian, can you explain this in a spoiler to me please? Your last one just confused me.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Olo

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There was an issue with Claudius, who thought he was out of range of your touchsight, however, he was in range, so your action resolves, which would render him unconcious, which is the current point of contenent

[lvl 1 sharnian]

It's been a long time now waiting for a DM so I propose that if we don't find a DM soon, we'll just have to work among ourselves about whether Claudius stays up or not

[sofawall]

Ok, so, it seems to me that Claudius assumed he was outside the 60 ft., as he was 60 ft. away on the ground, and as Olo was flying, he must be farther than 60 ft. overall (yay hypotenuse) . This is, actually, what I would also assume, I deem it reasonable, and think we should roll back to post... 90. Redo from the start of 90 onwards.

[PhoenixRivers]

Can we get LOS for this? It'll likely be useful if we have a complete LOS check, as post 90 is a player action.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

LoS for post #90

Claudius

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Unless you wish to make a caster level check,You do not detect anything, in L17

Olo

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You do not detect anything

Phoenix

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You do not detect anything

[PhoenixRivers]

For Personal Reference, my current relevant statistics: (Myself/LOS providers/DM's only)

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Location: K24

Sight modes: Touchsight 90 feet
Spellcaster's bane (spellcasting within my field of vision, even if I cannot see it, is revealed, along with the spell cast, and the caster level)

Defense modes: Greater Invisibility

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian:

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Ah, so that's what it's for. What would be the CL for Mindsight? I would assume character level? I'll do character level; I can always reroll if it is determined to be otherwise.

CL check - (1d20+13)[15]

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Claudius

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You detect nothing, however, are you rolling for both Arcane Eye and Mindsight? Or just mindsight

[Claudius Maximus]

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Sharnian:

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Mindsight only. I need LoS for Arcane Sight to work anyway. I'll just roll it now though.

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Anyway, if I never detect two people, I assume that there's a second person around whom I can not detect for some reason or another (I think I know I'm getting int a 2v2, but I'm not exactly clear). Where are the characters I can detect again?

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Claudius

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I'm not sure how to handle Mindsight as relating to Mindblank thanks to the new fix, but you have LoS to a humanoid holding arrows in his hand in L17

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian:

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Wait, which of them has mind blank? If Olo has it up, I have no inclination to believe that anyone is in L17, so I would not have moved to gain LoS to that space.

If it's Phoenix, and I can sense Olo's mind, then I move to A10, gain LoS to Olo, dispel him (using previous results), and cast Feeblemind on him (using previous results, but it turns out I can't force a reroll, so he just makes the save.) Then I end my turn.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Claudius

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It's Olo who has mind blank, I don't anyone ever made clear whether Mindsight was affected by Mindblank or not

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian:

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I imagine it would. I'd define it as an effect that detects or gains information about thoughts, which Mind Blank would stop. I'm not sure whether or not it'd block telepathy, but I'd lean towards yes.

Where is Phoenix again?

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Claudius

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We'll go with that, Phoenix is in K24 right now

[Claudius Maximus]

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Move to A17, cast Confusion (DC 29) at the intersection of K21/L22, at whatever altitude he's at. If he would be flat-footed against me (and I'm pretty sure he would), the DC increases by one.

If Master Rahl is in that area, I obviously might reconsider my aim.

Hide Check - (1d20+39)[57]
Hide check while casting - (1d20+19)[29]
Add 20 to these if he can't see invisible.
Move Silently Check - (1d20+22)[24]
I have Zone of Silence up, though.
Confusion SR - (1d20+14)[19]
Add another 4 to this if he does not have the feat Shadow Weave Magic.

My turn is not quite over.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Phoenix

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Make a will save; mind-affecting/compulsion

Claudius

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Rahl is in the area, but is unconcious

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian:

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Where is he exactly? As far as I can tell he's in K25, 20 feet up. What's Phoenix's elevation, too? I might be able to aim this in such a way as to prevent getting Rahl in the AoE.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Claudius

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According to his post, Phoenix is not elevated, and Rahl is in K25, 20ft up

[PhoenixRivers]

@Sharnian:

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If it hasn't been rolled yet:

Blink Miss Chance: (1d100)[31] low misses
Will Save: (1d20+15)[31]

If Fail, Schism Save: (1d20+15)[23]

If I fail, and schism passes, it has no effect, but schism ends.

[PhoenixRivers]

@Sharnian:

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Also, if that was a spell, and it was cast from a square I have LOS to, I automatically know what spell it was (Spellcaster's Bane). I need not have LOS to the caster, though, if he's got LOE within 90 feet, touchsight should peg him.

For reference, if a Will Save of 31 negates all effects of whatever was used on me, it has no effect. If not, then Sharnian's assistance will be needed to determine if other defenses I have up apply.

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian:

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In that case, Rahl is not in the area, because I would target the ground level and it's a 15' burst.

Phoenix, I'll tell you right now that you made your save. There are no effects.

Rest of actions:

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Activate Belt of Battle for a standard action, spend it to ready Feeblemind at the first non-Rahl person I see.

End turn.

[PhoenixRivers]

Next is Olo, then me.

EDIT: Unless of course, Olo had readied an action last round. In that case, it's me, then Olo.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Phoenix

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Nope, you don't detect anything

[PhoenixRivers]

@Sharnian:

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So, the only opponent I have anything on is Rahl?

Need clarification on whose turn it is. Original order was Olo, then me. However, if Olo performed an initiative-modifying action, it's my turn.

(Delay or Ready, both of which were discussed in relation to his turn)

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Sharnian

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Yes, that is correct, but Rahl is already unconcious

I believe it is Olo's turn since he delayed

[Claudius Maximus]

Sharnian:

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I'm almost positive he readied, since when he gained LoS to me, he hit me with some attack (the one with 4 saves). Delaying doesn't let you interrupt turns. There's also the fact that he moved on his turn, something you can't do if you're delaying. Since readying is a standard action however, you can do that if you're readying. Of course this is only conjecture, though, since for all I know that was Anticipatory Strike or Celerity or something.

[lvl 1 sharnian]

Claudius

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Sorry if my statement was unclear, on Olo's first turn, he delayed until he saw Rahl, who was first, then readied an action, the 4 saves, so the Init is Rahl (unconcious), Olo, Claudius, Phoenix (AnticipStrike'd)

[PhoenixRivers]

@sharnian:

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Turn order?

Claudius, Olo, me, correct?