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Thread: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
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2009-10-20, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sharnian:
SpoilerTouchsight automatically defeats hide, even if I can reasonably duck around a corner or something. It just sees me.
I automatically succeed on move silently check because of my Zone of Silence.
Since Touchsight requires LoE, I assume I have LoS to him. Do I see him? My Arcane Sight should pick him up, because at the very least he has a Touchsight aura.
Also, when is this? Since he's moving on my turn I assume he used Anticipatory Strike. My understanding of immediate actions is as follows: he can do this after saving against my spell, but if he gets hit by it he must immediately make the save. So unless he did this before I finished casting Confusion, he must first save. The same applies to Dispel Magic. He either does it before the spell is resolved or after.Last edited by Claudius Maximus; 2009-10-20 at 06:43 PM.
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2009-10-20, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
Claudius
'SpoilerWell, confusion is resolved,but you can't see any change in the opponent
LoS will resolve when I finalize some details
Phoenix
SpoilerYou gain LoS with Touchsight at K19-22, would you like to stop at a certain spot and then continue your anticipatory turn?The accuracy of this post is questionable
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2009-10-20, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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@Sharnian:
SpoilerYes. I will stop there. Wasn't expecting him there, so my actions are as follows:
End movement in K19.
Manifest Energy Stun, Overchanneled to ML 15, fully augmented. Cold.
Cold Damage: (13d6)[48] +13 = 61 (+1 damage per die for cold)
Fort Save for half, DC 25.
If Fort save is failed, Will Save, DC 25, or stunned for 1 round.
Damage to self: (3d8)[13]
Schism: Manifest Energy stun, overchanneled to ML 12, fully augmented. Electricity.
Electricity Damage: (10d6)[36]
Reflex Save for half, DC 25.
If reflex save is failed, Will Save, DC 25, or stunned for 1 round.
Damage to self: (3d8)[15]Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2009-10-20 at 08:27 PM.
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2009-10-20, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
Phoenix
SpoilerHold up, I think you might be misunderstanding me (or I forgot to write where he's at). Claudius is at A17, I only said K19-22 in reference to the places where you have to be to get LoE for Touchsight
Claudius
SpoilerMake two fort saves and two will saves in alternating pattern:
Fort, Will, Fort, WillLast edited by lvl 1 sharnian; 2009-10-20 at 09:00 PM.
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2009-10-20, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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@Sharnian:
SpoilerNo, I gotcha. K19 has LOS, and the intent is to end movement with LOS, then hit him with abilities. His location was less relevant. As long as my character knows where he's at, I'm fine. After the attack, I'm kinda a sitting duck anyway, until after my next turn is skipped. Means that his exact location is less important. Just trying to do the same to him, so that my ally can finish him off.
Cold Energy stun first, then electric, to hit all three saves and two energy types (probing for weakness), and to provide a bonus to DC for the weaker one to bring all up to DC 25.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2009-10-20 at 09:34 PM.
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2009-10-20, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sharnian:
SpoilerI suppose I can't see him then? If I can I have a spell I can cast as an immediate action, provided I did not already cast Dispel Magic.
Fort save 1 - (1d20+7)[23]
Will save 1 - (1d20+14)[21]
Fort save 2 - (1d20+7)[27]
Will save 2 - (1d20+14)[18]
Edit: Those rolls don't look too promising...Last edited by Claudius Maximus; 2009-10-20 at 09:35 PM.
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2009-10-21, 06:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
Claudius
SpoilerWell, I'm since I'm sure you can see invisibility, you see him, blinking, at K19.
Also, the first two save is a cold spell/power/manuever (incase you don't know what he is yet)
The last two are electricity
If it's relevant (weakness/immunity)The accuracy of this post is questionable
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2009-10-21, 07:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sharnian:
SpoilerI cast Stay the Hand on him as an immediate action as he manifests the first power. I choose to make it Silent and Still. The Will save DC is 23. If he fails he can not attack me for the whole round, though he may take later actions differently.
SR check - (1d20+14)[25] Add 4 to this unless he has the feat Shadow Weave Magic.
Blink Miss Chance - (1d100)[81] I miss on 1-20, since I can see him.
I have resistance to cold 10, but no resistance or immunity to electricity.Last edited by Claudius Maximus; 2009-10-21 at 07:39 PM.
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2009-10-21, 08:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Phoenix
SpoilerMake a Will Save
Blink Miss: (1d2)[2] 1 Misses
Claudius
SpoilerIs the spell mind-affecting?The accuracy of this post is questionable
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Sharnian:
SpoilerIt is indeed mind-affecting.
CL check if that's what you're getting at - (1d20+14)[21]
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2009-10-21, 09:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Phoenix
SpoilerThe will save is mind-affecting
Claudius
SpoilerLol feel free to draw conclusions; Is it also Death, Language dependant, sonic, acid, fire, electricity, cold, poison, disease, non-lethal, lethal, abilitiy damage, ability drain, paralysis, stunning, negative energy, positive energy, or transmutation? (Just the effects I could think of off the top of my head)The accuracy of this post is questionable
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Sharnian:
SpoilerIt's an Enchantment (charm) [mind-affecting] spell. None of the others, though, as far as I can tell.Editor and playtester for Legend.
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2009-10-22, 01:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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@Sharnian:
SpoilerAssuming you've resolved Blink...
If the ability is a spell or a power, I automatically identify it as it is being cast, and the caster level of the spell, as long as I have LoE (per Spellcaster's Bane). Is it?Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2009-10-22 at 02:04 AM.
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2009-10-22, 10:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sorry to butt in.
@Sharnian
SpoilerSpellcaster's bane says that they automatically know the spell being cast as if they had made a successful spellcraft check. Since this particular spell is both still and silent, he cannot legally make a spellcraft check because he has no verbal or somatic component to work with to identify the spell. So without some additional help, he has no idea what spell is being cast
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2009-10-22, 01:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
Please, Match participants, invited LOS providers, and ToS-official DM's only. I would not like to see the thread cluttered.
If you have a concern that you feel should be addressed by Sharnian, a PM will suffice.
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2009-10-22, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Phoenix
SpoilerIt's mind-affecting/charm for your save purposes,
Does spellcaster's bane get through Still and Silent which would otherwise prevent spellcraft checks? Anyways you still need to make the will saveThe accuracy of this post is questionable
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2009-10-22, 05:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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@Sharnian:
SpoilerThe spell grants me knowledge of the spell as if I had passed a Spellcraft check. It does not, however, require me to make a spellcraft check, nor is it contingent on my ability to do so.
Per the text:You gain a +2 insight bonus on dispel checks and caster level checks made to counterspell.
If you have 5 or more ranks in Spellcraft, you also automatically recognize any spell being cast, as though you had succeeded on a Spellcraft check.
You must have line of sight to the caster, but distance is otherwise not a factor.
If you have 15 or more ranks in Spellcraft, you not only recognize any spell being cast, but you also know the caster level of any spell being cast. Again, you must have line of sight to the caster for this effect to function.
Will Save: (1d20+15)[20]
Schism Save: (1d20+15)[25] (if the initial save fails)
EDIT: If a 20 fails (likely) but a 25 passes, then I pass the save, but my schism effect ends.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2009-10-22 at 06:04 PM.
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2009-10-22, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
Claudus
SpoilerYou take 38 Cold damage, 18 Electricity damage (already factored in resistance) and are stunned for 1 turn
Phoenix
SpoilerYou failed the first Save, make a caster level check for Spellcaster's bane. But succeeded on the second save, your schism ends
Claudius seems to be affected by the cold and electric powers, you also see he is stunned.The accuracy of this post is questionable
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2009-10-22, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sharnian:
SpoilerThat's enough to knock me to -1. Is this game over, or is there yet some hope?Editor and playtester for Legend.
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2009-10-22, 08:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Claudius
SpoilerUnless you have some spell to use or a contingent effect, not likely... best thing to hope for is that Olo and Phoenix kill each other over who gets what loot lol
And with that I proclaim Olo and Phoenix winnersThe accuracy of this post is questionable
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Yep, I'm in the negatives, and we can just assume you guys smash our unconscious skulls in. You get to loot our corpses. How do you want to handle that? Pool the loot and split it, or maybe you each get to loot one of us?
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2009-10-22, 09:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wait a second.
@Sharnian:SpoilerThe second power cannot be used. The schism that was manifesting it was negated by the mind effect. Thus, only the 1st effect (the cold effect) applies.
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2009-10-22, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
One of my powers was mitigated, in some fashion, by the power that was used on me.
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2009-10-22, 11:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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I assume we can split the loot...we'll probably more want your stuff than Rahl's stuff, since your a caster and we're not...
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2009-10-22, 11:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Test of Spite Qualifier 1701(d)
If it's determined that we did win, sure, but there's an issue with the powers intended versus the action that I was hit with.
In short, I performed two abilities. Claudius interrupted my first with an immediate action. I succeeded the save versus that action, but in doing so, lost the schism that was performing the second action. (The schism saved me from the mind-affecting power)
Thus, only the first power hit. The cold one. The electricity effect did not.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2009-10-22 at 11:50 PM.
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2009-10-23, 06:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh ok, sorry then, Claudius is still alive but stunned
I believe it is Olo's turn thenLast edited by lvl 1 sharnian; 2009-10-23 at 06:33 AM.
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2009-10-23, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Line of Sight?
EDIT: Where am I, actually? Its been so long since I moved Ive completely forgotten...Last edited by Olo Demonsbane; 2009-10-23 at 11:13 AM.
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2009-10-23, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Free actions, out of turn:
Shout: "Far West side, southern half of the field"
(8 words, 8 free actions)
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2009-10-23, 11:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Olo
SpoilerI believe you were on L17, 20ft upLast edited by lvl 1 sharnian; 2009-10-23 at 11:05 PM.
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Sharnian
SpoilerAnd my touchsight detects nothing? I can hit anyone on the far west southern side with it...I can hit anyone in the south eastern quadrant with it...