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    Octodimensional Origami
    Transmutation
    Level: Wiz/Sor 9, Origami 9
    Components: V, S, M
    Casting Time: Standard action
    Range: Medium
    Target: 10' radius sphere
    Duration: Instantaneous
    Saving Throw: Reflex negates, Fort partial
    Spell Resistance: No
    This spell causes the target area to be distorted fundamentally. Any creature within must make a Reflex save to escape. If this is failed, or for objects in any event, then a Fortitude save permits the creature or object to escape with only 6d10 damage and being ejected to the astral plane. If both saves are failed, then the creature is destroyed, and any ressurection will require that the caster succeeds on a caster level check against the caster of this spell. The area affected will force the same set of saves on any creature entering for the next ten minutes, after which it will become a permanent portal to the astral plane.

    Origami Domain
    Power: Whenever you have passed a Craft (Origami) check in the past hour, you gain an enhancement bonus to all concentration checks equal to half your class level.
    1-Animate Origami Paper
    2-Magic Paper Weapon
    3-Origami Wall
    4-Origamify
    5-Paper-thin Blade
    6-I Know Origami
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    8-Origamify, Greater
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    I like it! Especially the part about it becoming a permanent portal to the astral plane opening at the end.

    Here's a thought though, maybe not go straight for destruction after the second save, but have them permanently insane from the inter dimensional shifting and then ejected onto the astral plane.

    but I like it!

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    Thanks! Is it the right power level? I wasn't sure, because I can't think of any precedent for damage combined with permanent utility, so I gave it two saves and hoped.

    EDIT: I decided to try to make another Origami-themed spell, here is what I came up with.

    Paper Creatures
    Transmutation
    Level: Wiz/Sor 0
    Casting Time: Special
    This spell functions as Monster Summoning I, with the following changes. Firstly, the casting time becomes one standard action per summoned monster, and you may summon up to 1/2 your caster level in monsters. Secondly, all summoned creatures have one hit point. Thirdly, all summoned creatures appear next to you. Fourthly, they may not attack, although they are permited to flank. Fifthly, they all have 1/2 normal AC. Finally, all summoned creatures die instantly if exposed to liquid water.
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    I'll admit that I'm the kind of DM that looks at something new, figures out the power level, thinks about it and then says "BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOOOO MUCH FUN!" besides, permanent portal to the astral plane isn't that powerful overall; especially because I'd make sure that things could come both in AND out

    in fact, that would be hilarious- you cast the spell, the portal opens and an ENTIRE githyanki war party pops out, astral ship and all...

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    Default Re: Origami! [3.5 spells, PEACH]

    Eh, SM1's main use is flanking, distractions and scouting, all things the spell does just as well.

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    I'd give em all 1 hp and half AC, then unable to attack. But you have the potential for a very awesome cantrip, there.
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    I'd give em all 1 hp and half AC, then unable to attack. But you have the potential for a very awesome cantrip, there.
    I like this idea. That way, they can be your funny little "materialized prestidigitation."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldarin View Post
    in fact, that would be hilarious- you cast the spell, the portal opens and an ENTIRE githyanki war party pops out, astral ship and all...
    I laughed my arse off when I read this and imagined it in my head. Then realized any party with a caster high enough level to cast this spell would soundly defeat the war party. It still makes a decent idea for any number of level-appropriate challenges, though.
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    Default Re: Origami! [3.5 spells, PEACH]

    Having to summon the origami creature next to you might somewhat nerf it as far as setting up flanking goes, especially if you are hanging back.

    I would like to see one that functions as Animate Rope but for origami instead of knot-tying.
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    I have nerfed Paper Monsters somewhat, although I am worried that it is now too weak. I will post some more when I have finished my current forum trawl.

    EDIT: Here is Animate Origami Paper.

    Animate Origami Paper
    Transmutation
    Level: Bard 2, Sor/Wiz 2, Origami 1
    Components: V, S
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Medium
    Target: One piece of origami paper per caster level, each one no more than 3"x3"
    Duration: 1 round/level
    Saving Throw: None
    Spell Resistance: No
    You may animate a group of nonliving pieces of origami paper.

    When animated, the paper must take the first round to take a form. All of the pieces animated by one use of this spell must perform the same action. The papers may be commanded to form shuriken, paper planes or paper tigers. It takes a move action to command a form change or an action.

    In shuriken form, they have range as a normal shuriken thrown by the caster, but deal non-lethal damage unless there are at least three, in which case the caster may opt to form 1/3 the normal number of shuriken in exchange for each one gaining a +1 to hit and dealing lethal damage. After they have attacked, paper shuriken must be commanded to arise again before attacking again.

    In paper plane form, the group gains a fly speed of 60 feet, with a poor maneuverability.

    In paper tiger form, every five pieces of paper becomes one paper tiger. Each paper tiger has a move speed of 15 feet, is a Small creature, and may attack once per round at the caster's base attack bonus, using the caster's casting ability for to-hit and damage bonus with base damage of 1 piercing damage.

    The paper itself is not magical.

    This spell grants a +2 on any Craft (Origami) checks that you make with the transmuted paper, or allows the paper to be folded as by Lesser Animate Origami Paper.

    This spell cannot animate paper carried or worn by an unwilling creature.
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    Default Re: Origami! [3.5 spells, PEACH]

    It's not too weak. Compare it to the orb spells in the same level. 1d3 damage (seriously...d3?) vs. 1/2 monster damage. It could be about the same, or more. Plus, you have a very bad meat shield. Still, some damage could happen, maybe some flanking, and one attack could be stopped from hitting any of your allies or the caster.
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    Default Re: Origami! [3.5 spells, PEACH]

    Fair enough. Incidentally, I can't find stats for origami paper, so here they are.

    Origami Paper
    Hardness 0, 1 hp.
    Cost: 5 gp.
    Weight: -
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    5gp? Is it really that much different from normal paper?

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    Depends where you are and how fancy it is...
    To do good origami, the paper must be very thin compared to its size.... the average European paper would have to be a few feet on a side (they would use knives in place of erasers, to scrape off the surface of the paper that the ink had penetrated, if that tells you anything). The paper that I have seen in modern kits often has fancy patterns on it or metallic foil or whatever, but I doubt that is what he is referring to.

    That having been said, I do think 5 gp is a bit much.

    Also, that spell is much too powerful for what I was thinking of... what I was thinking of was something that would ONLY allow the paper to fold itself... no real motion, and certainly with it falling motionless when you are not fully concentrating on it. With "Animate Rope" you have to throw it at the target... well, this would be the same level of control...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RelentlessImp View Post
    I laughed my arse off when I read this and imagined it in my head. Then realized any party with a caster high enough level to cast this spell would soundly defeat the war party. It still makes a decent idea for any number of level-appropriate challenges, though.

    see, that depends upon what you think constitutes a Githyanki war party... They could be on the run from their Lich Queen leader, and therefore above 12th level... I personally stack the odds against my players and they need to use really clever tactics to get around stuff (it's the only time I think the phrase "why the **** is that seagull casting a lightning bolt?" has been uttered by an NPC)

    besides, they'd still need to deal with the fact that the ship is moving AT SPEED coming out of the portal (most likely right towards them) with angry githyankis casting spells/shooting at the first thing they see.

    What would the damage from being hit by a ship be anyways?

    ALSO- oragami paper is pretty damn expensive...
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    Default Re: Origami! [3.5 spells, PEACH]

    Right, if you want a weaker version, then here it comes.


    Animate Origami Paper, Lesser
    Transmutation
    Level: Wiz/Sor 0, Bard 0
    Components: V, S
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Medium
    Target: One piece of origami paper (3"x3") per caster level
    Duration: 1 round/level
    Saving Throw: None
    Spell Resistance: No
    This permits the caster to control one piece of origami paper. The piece of paper may fold itself as if the caster were folding it, but it is treated as having a number of ranks in Craft (Origami) equal to the caster's caster level, and adds the caster's spellcasting ability modifier as a circumstance bonus.

    EDIT: Thinking about it, I have decided that the first one is a bit powerful for first level. I will raise it to second.
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    I am now working on an Origami domain for clerics. I have put it in the opening post, but I need ideas for spells.
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    I've just see your post and I must say that I really like the concept, your two spell seem really nice.

    For the domain do you want only homebrew spell ?
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    Paper cut? Constitution damage from severe bleeding.
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    Any spells from the SRD are also welcome, but apart from that just homebrew. As to paper cut...

    Magic Paper Weapon
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    Level: Wiz/Sor 3, Origami 2
    Components: V, S
    Casting Time: 1 round
    Range: touch
    Target: One weapon folded out of paper.
    Duration: 1 round/level
    By means of this spell, a weapon folded out of paper may be made magical. To create a paper weapon requires a Craft (Origami) check with a DC of the normal weapon's Craft DC-5. By means of this spell, such a weapon becomes as effective as a standard steel weapon, obtains a paper-thin edge and additionally deals 1 point of Constitution damage on a successful hit if the target fails a Fortitude save.
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    I like the concept, but I'm not sure I like the idea of forcing the player to invest skill point in an otherwise useless skill just to be able to use is domain spell.
    Particulary since cleric only get 2 skill point per level.
    It make choosing that domain, even for flavor reason a harder decision.
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    Default Re: Origami! [3.5 spells, PEACH]

    Note that you are allowed to use the Animate Origami Paper spell to do the crafting, so that makes it a bit easier.

    EDIT: Tweaked Paper Monsters a little, now it requires a standard action to make each monster, but ths of course means that you can produce multiple monsters.
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    Ah, I forget about that.

    Let's see if I can really help:

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    Conjuration (Creation) [Paper]
    Level: Sor/Wiz 4, Origami 3
    Components: V, S, M/DF
    Casting time: 1 standard action
    Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
    Effect: Paper wall whose area is up to one 5-ft. square/level (S)
    Duration: Instantaneous
    Saving Throw: See text
    Spell Resistance: No

    This spell creates a wall of paper that repose on the ground. An origami is 1 inch thick per four caster levels and composed of up to one 5-foot square per level. You can double the wallís area by halving its thickness. The wall cannot be conjured so that it occupies the same space as a creature or another object.

    Unlike a wall of iron, you can create an origami wall in almost any shape you desire. The wall created need not be vertical, nor rest upon any firm foundation. It can be used to bridge a chasm, for instance, or as a ramp, but being made of paper it woulnd't support anything heavier than 5lb. For this use, if the span is more than 20 feet, the wall must be arched and buttressed. This requirement reduces the spellís area by half. The wall can be crudely shaped to allow crenellations, battlements, and so forth by likewise reducing the area.

    Like any other wall, this one can be destroyed by a disintegrate spell or by normal means such as breaking and chipping. Each 5-foot square of the wall has 5 hit points per inch of thickness and hardness 0. A section of wall whose hit points drop to 0 is breached. If a creature tries to break through the wall with a single attack, the DC for the Strength check is 5 + 2 per inch of thickness.

    It is possible, but difficult, to trap mobile opponents within or under an origami wall, provided the wall is shaped so it can hold the creatures. Creatures can avoid entrapment with successful Reflex saves.

    Arcane Material Component: A small pieces of paper.

    It's heavily base on wall of stone it's just way more fragil, but it block line of sight and can force some creature to wast a turn destroying it.
    The thing I'm less sure about it's the hit point and strenght check, it look really low but it's paper.
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    Cool idea, definitely. I would perhaps specify a weight so that you can carry it around, which might make it a bit more useful. At any rate, this is going into the domain.
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    I would make it "Paper Thin".

    Also, note that it has the same type of economic abuses as "Wall of Iron".
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    Very true on the latter count. Unfortunately, there seems to be no way around that, unless you say that the whole is ruined if any part of it is removed or broken, and then becomes valueless. How many people are going to buy a **ing WALL of origami paper? Paper thin could work as well, definitely.
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    Hooray! Paper cuts have been mechanically brought out!

    How about paper armor? Similar to mage armor, but not force. It would have to be magical, and maybe it could give a bonus to Charisma, just for fun. Hehe. Food for thought.
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    I'm pretty sure I've seen an Origami Golem on some other forum, actually. I'll see if I can find it.

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    OK, paper armour you think? How does this look?

    Paper Armour
    Conjuration (Creation)
    Level: Wiz/Sor 1
    Components: V, S
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Touch
    Target: Creature touched
    Duration: 1 hour/level
    Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
    Spell Resistance: No
    This spell creates a suit of paper armor on the target. This provides a +4 armor bonus to AC. Alternatively, any armor that the target is wearing may be transmuted to paper, nullifying weight and movement speed penalties. If the target becomes wet, then the armor begins to deteriorate, with the duration being changed from hours to minutes for the remainder. If preexisting armor becomes wet while under the effects of this spell, the spell must be dispelled before the duration is up or the armor will be permanently destroyed. An artifact armor gains a saving throw to survive.

    And another spell, the first straight-up attack spell so far.

    Origamify
    Transmutation
    Level: Wiz/Sor 4, Origami 4
    Components: V, S
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Medium
    Target: One creature
    Duration: Permanent
    Saving Throw: Will negates
    Spell Resistance: Yes
    This spell converts a creature to articulated origami. If the target fails their save, then they suffer several effects. Firstly, their size for the purposes of wind effects reduces by two steps. Secondly, water has the same effect as strong acid on them. Finally, they take double damage from piercing or slashing damage.
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    You should have a save or die spell called paper or death.

    Paper or Death?
    Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
    Level: Wiz/Sor 8, Origami 7
    Components: V, S, M/DF
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
    Target: One living creature
    Duration: Instantaneous
    Saving Throw: Will partial
    Spell Resistance: Yes

    The caster forms a piece of paper into a miniature version of the target, essentially creating a voodoo piece of origami paper. The target is compelled to look at the paper and crush it, causing themselves to be crushed as well. Any crushed creature dies. A successful Will saving throw allows the target to brush the compulsion away, but even if successful, they still are too distracted to take any actions this round.

    Arcane Material Component
    A piece of origami paper.

    For those of you who know Eddie Izzard, this is a nod to him.

    The armor spell looks good. I recommend changing it so artifact armors get saving throws.
    Last edited by Temotei; 2009-11-28 at 09:08 PM.
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