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Thread: Dakkadadakkadadakka
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2009-12-16, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dakkadadakkadadakka
So, my love for moar dakka in builds is well known. Now I want to do a conventional weapon version of the Dakka. This is a fairly simple build, again, entirely aimed at getting Dakka.
So, here's what I've got. Thri keen Sorc 4/Warblade 4/JadePhoenix 10 (revised).
Takes Rapid Reload, Rapid Shot, Weapon Proficiency Hand crossbows, and the Multiweapon Fighting Tree. Grab as magic items: 4 Splitting Hand Crossbows of speed, and a Ring of the Diamond Mind, and Bracers of Tiger Claw.
Celerity, Belt of Battle Activation (swift action from celerity boost, into full round action, taken after raging mongoose) Raging Mongoose Boost (swift action, lasts for one round), Time Stands Still.
Now, we get two full attack actions. So I count it as 16 attacks from Greater Multiweapon fighting and BAB, 4 from speed weapons, 4 from rapid shotting and 4 from raging mongoose. Three times. Split. For a total of 28*3*2=168 bolts. Stack on as many damage enhancers as possible of course. And crossbow sniper would allow 5 damage minimum on each bolt within limited range
The boost text on Raging Mongoose leads me to believe that it is extra attacks on a full attack action rather. And the duration is till the end of the round, but if I'm wrong it's 152 bolts instead.
Thoughts? Improvements?
Edit: Replaced haste with Speed weapons, filled space with draining a belt of battle. Replaced 10 levels with Jade Phoenix, for extra caster and initiator levels, and full BAB goodness (which allows straight sorc in place of battle sorc). This severely upped bolt count.
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2009-12-16, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Belt of Battle for another full round action.
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2009-12-16, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
With an ititiator level of 15 you cannot take time stands still. Weapon focus (handcrossbow) would be better than rapid reload. Personally I think warblade X / Battle Sorceror Y / Jade Pheonix Mage 10 / Warblade X would do better.
Last edited by Boci; 2009-12-16 at 06:24 PM.
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2009-12-16, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Man, those poor Xbow strings. How long is a round again, 6 seconds? So the per minute firing rate on this guy is around 600 or so?
Last edited by Asbestos; 2009-12-16 at 06:34 PM.
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2009-12-16, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Olo Dragonbane has a great story about some self-inflicted dakka.
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2009-12-16, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Haste only gives you one extra attack no matter how many weapons you are wielding.
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2009-12-16, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
That's an average machine gun's rate. And easily enough to wear down any normal bow after a week or so of use. If the arrows can cause any save or die effects, this would be the ultimate weapon against anything that isn't a construct, or undead, because the enemy will almost certainly roll a one.
Last edited by Volkov; 2009-12-16 at 06:51 PM.
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2009-12-16, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2009-12-16, 07:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Whrilwind frenzy barb dip is another +1 attack if you can fit it in.
If you care, I once did a quick check on how many mindarrows I could get out (last post here)
Don't take battle sorc if your going into JPM unless you lose an extra attack, you take the hits with none of the benifits when prcing.Last edited by deuxhero; 2009-12-16 at 07:14 PM.
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2009-12-16, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-16, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Which is why you take the magic items which grant you it as an ability, as in my OP.
Hmm. The haste wording says "One extra attack with any weapon," which I always interpreted as one more attack/weapon. I guess I'll have to revise.
And yeah, there's never enuff Dakka. But this is getting closer for me, even if approaching it is asymptotic.
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2009-12-16, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2009-12-16, 08:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
I believe so. It requires the Prerequisite of the maneuver (which are almost always "X moves from the discipline), but says nothing about initiator level. Since the two have separate texts, and it specifies these items as good ways to introduce martial abilities to an existing campaign? Eh.
In any event, our initiator level is now 17 as of my revision, so it doesn't much matter.
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2009-12-16, 08:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
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2009-12-16, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
on the concept of OloDakka... lack of splitting makes me sad.
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2009-12-16, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
On crazy stuff like this I usually just roll my eyes and close the tab. But maxing out this number of bow attacks? That makes me smile, thanks for the awesome!
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2009-12-16, 11:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dakkadadakkadadakka
Before it gets mentioned as an issue or "solved" with expensive weapon enhancements: He can reload with a Spare Hand (12000gp).
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2009-12-16, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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