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    Default Kobold Bard? 3.5e

    With school starting up again soon, so will a new campaign. I have recently decided that the bard is a class made of pure awesome, and I love dragons. In this new campaign (it will be a sandbox game so I can't guess what exactly we will be doing) I want to combine the ideas of the bard and the dragon past the simple DFI builds.

    What I really want to know is if anyone has ideas of how to make a kobold (or other draconic race) bard that would be awesome to rp. The group that I will play with will not be optimizers so I am ok with not picking whisper gnome or human for bard like I feel like I should.

    edit: I would prefer a snowflake wardance / weapon finesse build over a ranged build, but I will take whatever works
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    Doom Doom Doom
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    Default Re: Kobold Bard?

    Well, obviously you should take Dragonfire Inspiration. Doubly so because it's both appropriate and, you know, good.

    Dragonwrought will probably let you pick whichever energy type you like for your "Dragonfire". Ask your DM about that, because it only mentions half-dragons and Draconic Heritage.

    Try to grab as many Inspire Courage boosters as you can. Also, Snowflake Wardance (doubly so if you're White or Silver Dragonwrought, as it's appropriate there too).
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    Play 4e and roll a Dragonborn Bard : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozreth View Post
    Play 4e and roll a Dragonborn Bard : )
    Or, you know, a Kobold Bard and get your Shift on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozreth View Post
    Play 4e and roll a Dragonborn Bard : )
    I did consider that, but my group and I prefer 3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozreth View Post
    Play 4e and roll a Dragonborn Bard : )
    fourth edition Dragonborn: Big hulking dragon men (and women) with a Worf Complex

    Kobold: Little, tiny, yippy, yappy, little, reptilian ankle biters.
    Epic Suggestion Fail.
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    Use the character I've always wanted to play but never had a chance...

    Kobold Bard with maxed ranks in Perform(Dead Gnome Joke).

    Optimize to taste with Song of the Heart, Inspirational Boost, Words of Creation, Dragonfire Inspiration, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    fourth edition Dragonborn: Big hulking dragon men (and women) with a Worf Complex

    Kobald: Little, tiny, yippy, yappy, little, reptilian ankle biters.
    Epic Suggestion Fail.
    What the hell is a Kobald? Is it a naked Kobold?
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    For preform(dead gnome joke) would I need a dead gnome instead of an instrument? Also, how do I get a masterwork dead gnome?

    I will probably be descended from a battle dragon, at least I think those are the dragons that do sonic damage. Would it we worth it to pick up dragonwrought kobold and/or dragon wings or should I just pick up DFI and snowflake wardance at levels 1 and 3?

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    Obligatory. Nuff said.
    What I do every time I see someone complain that their DM is a jerk just because some class/race/book/feat/etc. is not allowed at the gaming table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius Rae View Post
    For preform(dead gnome joke) would I need a dead gnome instead of an instrument? Also, how do I get a masterwork dead gnome?

    I will probably be descended from a battle dragon, at least I think those are the dragons that do sonic damage. Would it we worth it to pick up dragonwrought kobold and/or dragon wings or should I just pick up DFI and snowflake wardance at levels 1 and 3?
    Take some flaws so you get extra feats to play with?
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    Man, this is just one of those things you see and realize, "I live in a weird and banal future."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius Rae View Post
    For preform(dead gnome joke) would I need a dead gnome instead of an instrument? Also, how do I get a masterwork dead gnome?

    I will probably be descended from a battle dragon, at least I think those are the dragons that do sonic damage. Would it we worth it to pick up dragonwrought kobold and/or dragon wings or should I just pick up DFI and snowflake wardance at levels 1 and 3?
    Perform(Dead gnome joke), not perform (dead gnome). All you need is to be able to talk, and you can produce such gems as:

    Q:What's better than ten dead gnomes nailed to a tree?
    A: One dead gnome nailed to ten trees!
    Q: What's the only thing better than that?
    A: Same idea, but it's not dead yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Glyphstone View Post
    Perform(Dead gnome joke), not perform (dead gnome). All you need is to be able to talk, and you can produce such gems as:

    Q:What's better than ten dead gnomes nailed to a tree?
    A: One dead gnome nailed to ten trees!
    Q: What's the only thing better than that?
    A: Same idea, but it's not dead yet!
    Q: What's the best thing about twenty three year old dead gnomes?
    A: There are twenty of them!

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    Default Re: Kobold Bard? 3.5e

    if you decide to go dragon disciple you might as well call yourself deekin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranar View Post
    if you decide to go dragon disciple you might as well call yourself deekin
    But he's going to be Dragonwrought (because seriously how else do you expect to be descended from a Battle Dragon), so he's ineligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milskidasith View Post
    Q: What's the best thing about twenty three year old dead gnomes?
    A: There are twenty of them!
    I was going to say that that means the meat is still tender.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma
    What the hell is a Kobald? Is it a naked Kobold?
    No, it's a misspelling of the word Kobold.
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    Grah, I used to have a DM who called my Kobold Druid a 'Kobald' all the time!
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