New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Results 1 to 14 of 14
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Troll in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2006

    Default Advice for a First Time DM

    So, here's the set-up. I've been itching to play some D&D recently, but my old group reformed an hour or so away from where I live, so playing with them isn't likely. I'm thinking I can convince some of my friends to play, especially the Lord of the Rings-obsessed ones, but I don't really know how to DM. I know how to write a story and such, but I don't know a whole lot about balancing, proper amounts of XP to give, making sure nothing is too hard, or even really how to explain to them how to play in a way they can digest quickly. We would be playing 3.5. I own a DMG, but I'd like advice from other DMs.
    Quote Originally Posted by YPU View Post
    Real life doesn’t happen, it surprises you like a trap of a CR way above your level.

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Tyndmyr's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Maryland
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Grab a DMG, if you don't have one already. All those topics are covered in there, and while the rules for them aren't perfect, they're the best way to get by until you've got the experience to wing it.

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Troll in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2006

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Right, I mentioned that I have one, but I'd also like some misc. tips. I feel like it'd be easier to dive into the DMG with some frame of reference from others.
    Quote Originally Posted by YPU View Post
    Real life doesn’t happen, it surprises you like a trap of a CR way above your level.

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Swordgleam's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    There's an entire blog with tips aimed especially at new DMs, though he's playing 4e right now, most of the advice is the same: http://newbiedm.com/

    My main advice is this: as long as everyone's having fun, don't worry about it!

    And be ready to adjust things on the fly to keep the fun going. Accidentally gave the party an encounter way too hard? Consider fudging some HP or die rolls - it's less noticeable than a deus ex machina, and (usually) more fun than a TPK. Party is mowing down hordes of enemies? That's fun for a while, but throw a few extra baddies into the next encounter.

    And do the "yes, and" thing that's a big part of improv acting. Player says, "I wonder why the NPC did that? Could it be that [plot idea]?" Steal that idea!
    Some things I do that you might enjoy:
    Chaotic Shiny - Random generators of all types for gaming and writing (including characters, names, taverns, cities, pantheons, languages, and 60+ more)
    Chaotic Shiny Productions - Flavor-packed D&D supplements (mostly 4e), plus some systemless free products and software
    Latest: Kingdom Builder Generator Pack II

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    England
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    I started DMing not long ago, and I found that the best thing to do is open with a module, such as Scourge of The Howling Horde (which seems designed with first-time DMs in mind and was realy easy to run). It take away all the pressure of what items and XP to give out, and how to moderate the difficulty of the challenges.

    Don't worry about balancing - just look at thier characters to make sure no-one is deliberately playing something hugely broken (things like an incantatrix in a fighter - rogue - healbot party), then let actual gameplay show you who is and isn't powerful.

    The best way to each them is to walk them through a simple fight, then just jump into the game after that, so they can learn as they play. Don't worry about remembering everything - things like obeying the rules don't matter as long as you and the players have fun.


    I find that the vital thing as a DM is to just relax and play things by ear.
    Encounter too hard? What luck, here come a third faction to take the pressure off you. Enemy can't hit the players? He drinks a potion and gains a bonus to hit rolls. You can even make up while subplots and sidequests on the spur of the moment and players will never even know.

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Troll in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2006

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    I'm not worried about broken players, since I doubt any of them will have experience. I know I have a module around here somewhere, might be worth a closet search to find...

    Edit: Yep, Sunless Citadel.
    Last edited by Raistlin1040; 2010-01-17 at 08:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by YPU View Post
    Real life doesn’t happen, it surprises you like a trap of a CR way above your level.

  7. - Top - End - #7

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Something I've learned is that CR can sometimes be a crapshoot. It's a bit more work, but using humanoids with class levels instead of monsters can make things a bit easier to balance.
    It's been a bit, GitP. If you're reading this, you're either digging through old stuff, or I've posted for the first time in forever.

    If you want to stay in touch, reach out to me on twitter (same username).

    The best answer is always to ask your DM.
    Unless you're the DM, in which case you should talk to your players.

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Swordgleam's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin1040 View Post
    I'm not worried about broken players, since I doubt any of them will have experience.
    Then you might have the opposite problem - characters that are nearly useless. My first ever character was a 1st ed mage who didn't know magic missile, because I didn't know any better. (At least I took sleep.)

    I would suggest having your first session be a one-shot or a module with premade characters. Make relatively simple 1st level builds that are about equal in usefulness, and let your friends pick. (Make about 1.5x as many as you have players.) That way, they can get a feel for how the game works before they make a commitment to a character.
    Some things I do that you might enjoy:
    Chaotic Shiny - Random generators of all types for gaming and writing (including characters, names, taverns, cities, pantheons, languages, and 60+ more)
    Chaotic Shiny Productions - Flavor-packed D&D supplements (mostly 4e), plus some systemless free products and software
    Latest: Kingdom Builder Generator Pack II

  9. - Top - End - #9
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    OldWizardGuy

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin1040 View Post
    So, here's the set-up. I've been itching to play some D&D recently, but my old group reformed an hour or so away from where I live, so playing with them isn't likely. I'm thinking I can convince some of my friends to play, especially the Lord of the Rings-obsessed ones, but I don't really know how to DM. I know how to write a story and such, but I don't know a whole lot about balancing, proper amounts of XP to give, making sure nothing is too hard, or even really how to explain to them how to play in a way they can digest quickly. We would be playing 3.5. I own a DMG, but I'd like advice from other DMs.

    This link is a great place to start.

    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76474


    Here's another link if you want to encourage your players to create a background. Pick a maybe 10 or 20 questions you want them to answer, to start.

    http://www.miniworld.com/adnd/100Thi...ackGround.html


    I'm sure other forum-goers can tell you more about mechanics. If you were playing 4.0 I would suggest reading through the PHB 1 because it gives a lot of mechanics relevant to the players and their skills. I don't think the PHB 1 for 3.5 does that though.

    I am much more interested in the psychology behind table top games. Dungeons and Dragons isn't just about rules and dice and character sheets. It has a lot to do with group harmony, team work, social skills, expressing emotions, and behaving civilly, to name a few things.

    If you look back far enough, you'll find many a topic concerning my horrible DM does this, and my terrible player decided to do that. Overall, all of those topics have a lot to do with players and DMs not treating each other fairly.

    Some general rules that are good for DMs (and players):

    -- When one person speaks, other people don't interrupt
    -- Never belittle or put down another player
    -- Don't be afraid to take advice
    -- Don't let another player make your decisions for you
    -- Listen to what your players have to say
    -- Make sure to get everyone's input, frequently (some players don't speak up) both in-game and out-of-game.
    -- Be patient and calm, but speak out against rude, childish, and otherwise uncalled for behavior

    Other suggestions:

    Figure out what kind of campaign / adventure you're going to run, and let them know before hand.

    roleplay vs. roll play
    low vs. high magic
    low vs. high fantasy
    low vs. high power
    serious vs. silly tone
    mature vs. family friendly themes

    Plan out a few encounters, including setting, major characters, background for what's going on, potential outcomes for what happens depending on what direction players choose to go.

    That's just a start, but I hope those suggestions are helpful. Enjoy the game!

  10. - Top - End - #10
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Tyndmyr's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Maryland
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Mmm, yeah, an easy scenario is a great starting point. Just grab modules and go...there's a fair number of freebies online to get started with.

    Once you've been playing for a while, ask your players what they like, and what they want more of. Games will naturally evolve over time, embrace it.

  11. - Top - End - #11
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    GnomeWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Montreal, Canada

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    Advice, well here are some tips that might help

    party size 3-5
    anything bigger can get insanely long to play
    get figurines and hex grids (Lego blocks can do if you don't have anything), it really simplifies everything instead of drawing on a piece of paper

    characters
    ask your players what they intend to play and help them make their characters if they lack experience, if everyone isn't optimized you might make TPK by accident , it also greatly helps roleplay if you can find something better than : you all meet in an inn

    don't plan too much
    people are unreliable , things like : "I attack the darkness" are common, expecting them to follow your rails won't always work so don't spend too much time on your plan

    clear minds
    playing can be hard enough when you're knew, you might as well be sober : keep alcohol and other mind-affecting things (like drugs and pretty members of the opposite sex) away from your players until they get a feel for the game

    enjoy
    if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong
    Last edited by Soranar; 2010-01-17 at 09:18 PM.

  12. - Top - End - #12
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Kelb_Panthera's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2009

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    If you're intent on whipping up your own adventures here's a few things to keep in mind.

    1) fun is WAY more important than the rules.

    2) loot doesn't start to have a truly notable impact on play until about level 5.

    3) the WBL table (dmg pg 135) is your friend, as long as everybody has a level appropriate armor, cloak of resistance, and ability booster for their main ability, and nobody's off by more than 30% from either the table or the other players you'll be okay.

    4) players will do the unexpected when you least expect it. Don't go too deep into detail with your planning, generally just having the major characters for the arc you're on and how they behave toward each other and in general is usually enough.

    5) the tables describing the interaction between CR's and encounter level and encounter difficulty on DMG pg 49 are very helpful once you understand them.

    For DM'ing in general:

    1) Fun is way more important than the rules.

    2) Don't pull any punches once they've got the mechanics down. I'm not saying that you should be trying to kill them, but make sure the consequences of an action are appropriate to the action.


    DISCLAIMER: these are the things that I've found to be true in my game. YMMV.
    Last edited by Kelb_Panthera; 2010-01-17 at 11:55 PM.

  13. - Top - End - #13
    Troll in the Playground
     
    Katana_Geldar's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    It's a lot about the actual doing, you will learn far more in your first ever session of play than what any blog or forum post will tell you.

    A module is good to start with as you can focus on the mechanics as well as take a closer look at the module and see how XP and encounter level are done. Also, make it short as your first outing as a DM you'll no doubt want to tell your own story in your own campaign soon enough.

    If you're with very new players, a pre-rolled character for them is probably not such as bad idea to begin with as they can learn to play first and then understand why certain feats, abilitie scores, etc. are important. Then, once you know they are committed, help them create a character.

    Perhaps the best bit of advice is to not be too hard on your self. DMing is very demanding on you mentally, as you head needs to be in about five places at once. Trust yourself to make decisions on the fly, try not to look up rules mid-game as it stops the action and leaves everyone waiting, don't be afraid to make it up for the moment and then go back to RAW, but explain to the player first.
    And don't be afraid to give yourself five minutes to write something down, just say "You guys talk in-character for a minute, I need to work something out."

    Read the table, see what's going on with the players, what they like and don't like doing. Ask them what sort of game they would be interested in playing and try and cross it with the game you would be interested in running. You also need to be alert for the time to call for breaks and when to finish the session, just not mid-encounter!

    As for planning, you need to find what works for you, just don't over do it.
    Avatar by Trixie.

    Running Tomb of Horrors 4E in all that horrific tombyness.

    My Blog The Level 1 GM


  14. - Top - End - #14
    Troll in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2006

    Default Re: Advice for a First Time DM

    I think, having secured two players, that there is no way we're going to be able to get together and play in person. This means I'll likely have to set up a forum and we'll play by post, hopefully with a time set for dedicated playing (Sundays from noon to four, get on and we'll do a lot) and then spend the rest of the week with posting when we can. I hope this'll make it a bit easier on me, since I won't have to make as many split-second decisions.
    Quote Originally Posted by YPU View Post
    Real life doesn’t happen, it surprises you like a trap of a CR way above your level.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •