Let's build an Epic Dungeon! Design Stage: Brainstorm!

[Gamerlord]

The horror! It Burnsss!

[Eloel]

Everyone can build a kobold-infested dungeon on the go. We, as the creaturs of the Epic Dungeon, need something more - something more fun - something to be remembered across the editions.

So, HORROR!

When I say HORROR, I mean serious business - Tomb of Horrors is a walk in the park.

[Shardan]

My vote lays with Tomb of Horror level. if you're gonna do it. do it right

[Melamoto]

The foundations are being laid for a very ambitious project. It would be cool to pull off, but I'm gonna vote for Dark. Trying to make a dungeon last from 1-Epic and still remain at ToH level seems like it would be incredibly difficult, not to mention that at that difficulty nobody will make it past level 5, let alone finish the whole thing.

[Tyndmyr]

The foundations are being laid for a very ambitious project. It would be cool to pull off, but I'm gonna vote for Dark. Trying to make a dungeon last from 1-Epic and still remain at ToH level seems like it would be incredibly difficult, not to mention that at that difficulty nobody will make it past level 5, let alone finish the whole thing.

Have you seen the Endless Dungeon and the Neverending Dungeon?

Im not sure what the record is for the neverending dungeon, but so far, TED hasn't had anyone live past level 3 yet. =)

[Calenestel]

I completely agree with the man with the whip (always a good (or evil) idea).

Dark.

Horror would only chase people away at least when we're dealing with this BIG a dungeon.

Aure entuluva!
Calenestel

[Tyndmyr]

• Epic is out - you simply can't be epic at level 1. It's really not possible without significant house-ruling.
• Heroic is entirely possible, but that would be rather constrictive alignment-wise. Heroic screams LG to me, and I've never liked that.
• Gritty... no. Epic characters aren't "gritty". Epic characters can reshape entire planets on a whim.
• Dark... eh. It's possible. This is just personal preference on my part - I like high fantasy.
• Horror, like a Gritty dungeon, is completely ridiculous at high levels. The PCs don't have anything to fear.

I would vote for a gritty, dark start that eventually leads to a truly epic, high fantasy feel later on.

I mean, it's hard to feel gritty/horror at level 25, but it's a bit silly to feel epic at level 1.

[potatocubed]

I vote gritty. It should be difficult, but it should be playable with sub-optimal characters.

[Melamoto]

So far, we have Horror leading with 4, closely followed by Dark with 3, while Gritty and Adventurous trail back with 1 vote each. Nobody has voted for Heroic or Epic. I think this probably reflects the attitude of the playground...

[Masaioh]

I vote Dark.

[Je dit Viola]

I would vote for it to be anywhere between Heroic to Dark...mostly Heroic, then Adventurous, then Dark.

However, the first two are unlikely to win, so my vote goes for starting out Dark then slowly moulding more and more heroic, so that it's less dark by higher levels and more adventurous/heroic.

[Fendalus]

Adventurous to dark, reaching dark around 10th level. Or, if just one long level of difficulty, dark. Horror wouldn't be usable for everyone, but dark seems like someone with baseline optimized characters could get through.

[Harperfan7]

Where are these listed with detail? I don't understand the difference between some of these.

EDIT: Found it. I vote gritty.

[Shardan]

I don't see how it matters once the wizard gets to the level he can just rewrite reality entirely. Meh. doesn't matter to me.

[Dust]

Horror doesn't appeal to me for this project. I'll vote Adventurous!

[Danin]

I'd have to go with somewhere between Dark and Adventurous. Certainly not horror or simple high fantasy, but just, a more challenging and hardcore heroic tale. Think dragon age kind of dark. It's not very, but it's certainly not super bright either.

So I guess my vote is in for... Dim?

[Flarp]

Wow, this is the first vote that's seriously getting competitive.

I like.

[Rasman]

I vote Gritty as well, a challenge, but something you can use to test a certain build.

[Flarp]

Given the amount of people giving mixed votes, I would suggest that instead of taking the majority vote, we synthesize the ratio between the votes into an entirely new theme.

[Volkov]

Do you have a so hard it makes battletoads look easy option?

[Melamoto]

Do you have a so hard it makes battletoads look easy option?

That would be Horror.

[Krylea]

Horror. Definitely Horror.

[Kurald Galain]

+1 for gritty.

[JohnnyCancer]

I vote Adventurous most of they way through: I think anything else could easily get too grueling to maintain for the entirey of a 1st-epic level dungeon. You can break it up in individual areas or levels, but overall I think it should be adventurous in spirit.

[Melamoto]

Voting Stage 5 ended. The winner was Dark, very very closely followed by Horror and Gritty, and Adventurous not too far behind. Based on what people have said, this will start near the horror mark, but gradually get easier, until level 20 where it is adventurous, and from there on Epic just handles itself.

The new vote may also need a bit of explaining, so I recommend reading this before you vote. The Dungeon Style is the dominant theme of the dungeon. Another way to put it, is what players would be talking about when they mentioned it. For example, a deep labyrinth of intrigue with traps around every corner, it would be traps and puzzles. For a haunted crypt where demons could appear at any second, and characters may be possessed into killing each other, it would be horror. Or, perhaps a dungeon based on traversing Limbo while fighting trumpet wielding clown-beasts (Or the aforementioned Chainsaw-Kobolds) would be humour. The final decision will be based on the ratio of these results, not the winning option. Remember this, and vote for what you want this to be. You may each place 2 votes. They cannot be for the same option.

Additional: If you want to vote for something else, then vote "Other". You must specify what this other choice is, or your vote will not be included. If enough people vote for the same "Other" choice, then it will be included in the voting poll.

[Eloel]

Traps and Puzzles & Horror.

Why? Because it would be fun to run into traps in a labyrinth while running from a demilich.

We can vote into 2 choices, right?

[clockworkmonk]

My vote is horror, but a very particular type of horror. Think Lovecraft.

[deuxhero]

Humor, just to see how it goes with dark theme.

[Mordokai]

I once again choose Horror.

[Dusk Eclipse]

I vote epic adventuous with a horror subtheme