ABR Discussion Thread XXXI - The Gift of Fish

[Shades of Gray]

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That's for object placement on the layer. Multple layers are different.

Apparently it helps when you're working off a reference, as you can trace it without moving the reference around. Also, some people make a layer for background, a layer for all the objects, and a layer for lightning effects.

I personally stick to one layer. >>

[Kumo]

i use a layer for background, one for foreground, one for people, one for another foreground, and one for text/speech balloons.

[Szilard]

I'm with Shades of Gray on this one. One layer for the win. No mucking around.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Having multiple layers helps me delineate the amount of work to be done on a comic. I usually have Background, Layer 1, Frames, Dialogue as my layers. The recent map I made of Arcania has by far the most layers, almost a layer for each element type (Including rivers, different kinds of cities, and such).

[Darklord Bright]

...I work on one layer.

[SinisterPenguin]

I use multiple layers. Makes things much easier, mostly because background/speech balloons don't get in the way of posing characters and such.

Generally I have 4 layers: Background, Characters (this includes objects as well, I just call it Characters anyway), Panels (frames), and Text.

[Mina Kobold]

I never really bothered with several layers, just adds more work in my opinion.

I just group the background items together when I'm finished with it, same effect.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Multiple layers are where it's at. I usually have one layer for the panels/background, and then one to two more for the background details such as grass, shrubs and other general background stuff. Then there's a layer for speech bubbles and another layer for text.

Then there are the characters, which tend to use roughly 15-25 layers each. I keep every part of a characters body on a separate layer.

-Hat
-Hair
-Head det
-Head
-clothes
-arm2
-body
-arm1
-boots
-legs

and so on.

My first few FFF:R comics had over 150 layers each.

[BRC]

I usually just have one established layer. Yeah it's not as neat as it could be, but I'm lazy.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Right, given that Lying isn't in best sorts my options I believe narrow down to:

1. Play as Lying until his mentality overtakes him
2. Recover the Silan unit from somewhere on the ocean floor
3. Bring back a very old leader from the dead
4. Convince a dead shaman to intervene where the living are having trouble

After #1, there's a follow-up that would also involve reviving someone dead for centuries, albeit a different someone to #3.

[Silverraptor]

I ususally use 3 layers. They are titled: "Background", "Characters", and "Dialog". However, if the need arises, I add in one or two more under "Effects" or "More Effects".

[Kumo]

lol... some hippy, this is charles and james...

[CrimsonAngel]

We realy should get him a name.

I totaly set up Kev to do it next comic.

[Kumo]

We realy should get him a name.

I totaly set up Kev to do it next comic.

Wonka Junior? =3

[CrimsonAngel]

So, were you going to join the chase, you were asking about my colors.

[Kumo]

So, were you going to join the chase, you were asking about my colors.

i was. Then a bunch of crap happened. I might be able to, but not till later. MUCH later. When i don't have ten thousand five hundred things to do.

[CrimsonAngel]

Woah, what happened?

[Kumo]

Woah, what happened?

School, mostly. Grades suck and i need to fix them. Then there was a volunteer thing my parents had me sign up for, a job, scholarship stuff, an evaluation of my mental health, a survey project for arbitron...

(When I say 'much later' i mean a few days.)

... ya know, it doesn't sound near as bad on paper.

[SinisterPenguin]

Hey guys, guess what time it is? That's right...it's shameless self-promotion time!

Xartyve2 and I are doing a collaborative webcomic (yes, another one). It's called Full Circle. Check it out.

[Mad Mask]

Hey guys, guess what time it is? That's right...it's shameless self-promotion time!

Xartyve2 and I are doing a collaborative webcomic (yes, another one). It's called Full Circle. Check it out.

Hopefully it's going to last longer than the other collaborative webcomic with the same concept and characters.

[Kumo]

Hopefully it's going to last longer than the other collaborative webcomic with the same concept and characters.

I see ABR's finest and full circle. The two have different concepts (albeit barely) =/

[Mad Mask]

I see ABR's finest and full circle. The two have different concepts (albeit barely) =/

They are both "Brain and Xartyve2 visit alternate universes", are they not?

[SinisterPenguin]

They are both "Brain and Xartyve2 visit alternate universes", are they not?

Full Circle involves no alternate universes. Merely different planets.

And there are many more differences from ABR's Finest that will become apparent later on.

[CrimsonAngel]

Make your other live for a while, theeen start a new one!

[Kumo]

They are both "Brain and Xartyve2 visit alternate universes", are they not?

One is. The other looks like they stay in one universe and go looking for a treasure.

Sig for shameless advertisement.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Full Circle involves no alternate universes. Merely different planets.

And there are many more differences from ABR's Finest that will become apparent later on.

Different planets in Avbaroy's universe or another? 'cos there's something of an established populace to that galaxy to my knowledge.

Any votes on which route I should take for my FI involvement?

Right, given that Lying isn't in best sorts my options I believe narrow down to:

1. Play as Lying until his mentality overtakes him
2. Recover the Silan unit from somewhere on the ocean floor
3. Bring back a very old leader from the dead
4. Convince a dead shaman to intervene where the living are having trouble

After #1, there's a follow-up that would also involve reviving someone dead for centuries, albeit a different someone to #3.

[Kumo]

Different planets in Avbaroy's universe or another? 'cos there's something of an established populace to that galaxy to my knowledge.

Any votes on which route I should take for my FI involvement?

It's your character, do what you want.

[Darklord Bright]

And there are many more differences from ABR's Finest that will become apparent later on.

ABR'S Finest didn't last long enough for us to notice differences between it and this "Full Circle."

[Kumo]

ABR'S Finest didn't last long enough for us to notice differences between it and this "Full Circle."

Full circle takes place above water.

[SinisterPenguin]

Different planets in Avbaroy's universe or another? 'cos there's something of an established populace to that galaxy to my knowledge.

Any votes on which route I should take for my FI involvement?

Different universe.

ABR'S Finest didn't last long enough for us to notice differences between it and this "Full Circle."

It's different, trust me. For one thing we ditched the rotating comics thing, and there are no canon ties to TJH.