What type of government will gobbotopia be?

[paladinofshojo]

Due to the fact that the majority of the citizens of gobbotopia are from a warrior society I would say that the government of gobbotopia will be something of an authoritarian regime led by a cult of personality around the supreme commander of the military

[Acero]

Despotism. Redcloak's word is law

[Optimystik]

We can compare Gobbotopia to a number of governmental styles and configurations, but such will invariably lead to political discussion, which is forbidden here.

[Belkon]

Theocracy.

[Temotei]

It'll be a "Rich nation," in any case. Har har.

[Raging Gene Ray]

An anarcho-syndiclast commune, because they fight the violence inherent in the system.

[Math_Mage]

An anarcho-syndiclast commune, because they fight the violence inherent in the system.

Do they? I was under the impression that they were part of the violence inherent in the system.

[Degnared]

A gobbocracy, of course.

[Mr. Spock]

It will be a necrocracy. where if you break the law, you get turned into a zombie

[veti]

Given that Redcloak's description of his new country kicks off by talking about "the Unholy Eyes of the Dark One", I think it's safe to call it a theocracy. I'm guessing the Bearer of the Crimson Mantle gets to be the ultimate head honcho, and decides exactly whom to appoint to all lesser roles as far as he can be bothered.

[DoctorIllithid]

Crimsonmantleocracy.

[Gamerlord]

My money is on dictatorship. Or theocracy.

[Murdim]

In theory, a theocracy ruled by the Dark One through his clergy, with the high priest Redcloak as the highest earthly authority.

In practice, a divine right monarchy ruled by Redcloak, Supreme Leader of the Hobgoblin Hordes and Bearer of the Crimson Mantle.

In reality, an autocracy ruled by Xykon the Mad through his servile minion Redcloak.

[Callista]

Redcloak's a cleric. It'll be a theocracy, LE-style, but consider that Redcloak is probably worshiping his deity because said deity happens to stand for the same things Redcloak would've been fighting for anyway. So this isn't going to be "obedience, or else, to an all-powerful deity with a cleric as figurehead"; it's going to be, "obedience, or else, to a powerful cleric in the name of a deity".

So how is talking about a government of goblins real-world politics, exactly?...

[t3h l3g1t m4g3]

Probably a Theocracy, but because Xykon will really be behind everything, would it not be?

[Pyron]

I call Diplocracy*.

A Diplocracy is to rule by whoever has the highest Diplomacy modifier.

[The Extinguisher]

Clearly, they will be a free republic of democracy for and by the average person.

[drengnikrafe]

Autocracy with Xykon in charge. Redcloak may do as he wishes most of the time, but if Xykon wants something done, it's likely his word will go above Redcloak's. In fact, it's pretty much definite.

On the other hand... Theocracy with that wild-card (Xykon) making occasional decisions. I'm not such what you'd call that.

[Thursday]

Clearly, they will be a free republic of democracy for and by the average person.

Well, thats what they should be if holds true to his 'give the goblins the best things in life' thing he has going..

Anyone see that actually happening?

It'll be a Theocracy, as we are consensusing on. Thats not a word is it? its late here...

[blueblade]

Well, thats what they should be if holds true to his 'give the goblins the best things in life' thing he has going..

Anyone see that actually happening?

It'll be a Theocracy, as we are consensusing on. Thats not a word is it? its late here...

Hey! No expressing political opinion/preference when the rest of us aren't allowed to.

I think it's ultimately a military dictatorship/cult of personality. A theocracy implies that faith is what binds people to be led. I think the majority of the gobbos and hobbos might respect and worship the dark one, but their faith and adoration for readcloak is what keeps them in line.

• He's almost certainly the most powerful Goblin any of them have ever seen.
• (Adopting American-Scottish accent) He's given them what none of them has ever had before: a country of their own
• He is likely the only military leader they ever had who didn't consider their lives entirely expendable.
• AND he wears the crimson mantle

[Vulkan]

Communism, Conrad

[Maximum Zersk]

An anarcho-syndiclast commune, because they fight the violence inherent in the system.

"King? I didn't vote for you."

1D6ocracy

[Draconi Redfir]

Perhaps a council of three of the three goblinoid types (goblin, hobgoblin, and bugbear) with one of each three representing different aspects of the nation.

Politics,
Economics,
And military. (Or any other three)

Each of those three aspects will be represented by one of each goblinoid race. (One goblin, one bugbear, and one hobgoblin will all represent the economic portion/wishes of their race for example)

These nine will each be selected by who is the overall best of their specific field. (If bob the bugbear is the best military commander in the bugbear race that occupies Gobbotopia, he will be the military bugbear)


This council will put issues such as trade relations, crime, and azurite rebels to a vote, which will then be announced by the highest-ranking cleric/priest/WEV of the dark one. Should any vote come to a tie, this cleric shall act as a "tenth" council member, and either give his own personal opinion, or communicate with the dark one himself to ask for advice.


This way, all three goblinoid races get their own voice, and they are not always dependent on the high priest of the dark one.

[Thursday]

Hey! No expressing political opinion/preference when the rest of us aren't allowed to.

Erk! Yeah, Sorry! -I will have no more.

I think it's ultimately a military dictatorship/cult of personality. A theocracy implies that faith is what binds people to be led. I think the majority of the gobbos and hobbos might respect and worship the dark one, but their faith and adoration for readcloak is what keeps them in line.

Agreed, though I'm not sure how much keeping in line they need (in the short term, anyway).

[DukeGod]

A Democracy...as long as the decision made by the majority of gobbo don't annoy Readcloak of course...

[Dire Moose]

I'd say most likely a monarchy/dictatorship, given that Redcloak has been the "Supreme Leader" for quite a while now and all the goblinoids have largely approved of him. That being said, I would expect some sort of council of advisors would need to be set up to keep Redcloak appraised of what the people want at the time.

Minor note: I do have a large goblinoid realm in my campaign, except it's mainly a loose confederation of smaller clan-ruled lands that are constantly making alliances with and making war against each other, with hobgoblins dominating and goblins largely reduced to a slave class.

[SaintRidley]

Theocratic autocracy, there's really no other option.

[The_Weirdo]

Autocracy with Xykon in charge. Redcloak may do as he wishes most of the time, but if Xykon wants something done, it's likely his word will go above Redcloak's. In fact, it's pretty much definite.

On the other hand... Theocracy with that wild-card (Xykon) making occasional decisions. I'm not such what you'd call that.

In late imperial times, Brazil had the three powers plus the "Poder moderador" - a fourth power, "moderating" power, wielded by the emperor, which passed or blocked laws, ordinances or judgment as it pleased, regardless of legislative, executive or judicial (which were, of course, also powers) will. So, an autocracy by Redcloak with a "Moderating Power" in the form of Xykon is what you're looking for, here, I think.

[The_Weirdo]

Communism, Conrad

Conrad is a proper name...

[Turkish Delight]

Well, executive power seems to be vested in Xykon, since for all Redcloak's posturing he's still Xykon's flunky and Xykon can change whatever he wants about how the city is ruled.

So Lichocracy.