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2010-03-14, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
I'm looking for a way to get more than just 1 cohort with the Leadership feat. does anybody know of a way to do this? or is it not possible and I'm screwed?
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2010-03-14, 07:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
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2010-03-14, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Technically not Cohorts, but you can Dominate things you want to have as an ally. As long as you remember to redo the Dominate periodically.
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2010-03-14, 07:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Thrallherd? And with that you don't have to worry about those pesky "Loyalty" or "Causing the Death of A cohort" along with getting easy replacements.
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2010-03-14, 07:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
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2010-03-14, 07:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Do hirelings, players and DMPCs count?
you could go gestalt and be a m thrallheard mindbender.
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2010-03-14, 08:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
I'm curious as to how not being able to do the particular oddly specific (and cheesy) thing you want would make you "screwed".
Anyway, you could theoretically have your cohort take the Leadership feat and get another cohort (although a character 4 levels behind you might not be all that great). Or you could be a Thrallherd, as mentioned, if you're playing at a high level. For extra bonus cheese, combine both and have your two thralls both be Thrallherds. (Though by the class's fluff, you shouldn't really be able to choose your thralls, since they're just whoever's around that happens to be on your weird mind control frequency.)
Alternately, you could try to convince however many NPC lackeys of whatever description you want to do what you say in-character, instead of using a feat. If you can adjust someone's attitude to Helpful with the Diplomacy skill, that should suffice to make them an ally, if not a follower. But then they might not be treated as a cohort and might thus take XP away from the PCs, which would of course be bad if that was what you were trying to avoid. This part of the rules is pretty wonky...
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2010-03-14, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Well, I meant that my idea is screwed. I had an idea about a Dragonborn Paladin with a Tiefling, Revenge obsessed wizard and a Delusional, Giant hating Minotaur.
I on the other hand shall be just fine. Once I think of a good movie to watch.
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2010-03-14, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-14, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Roleplay a high charisma score by persuading other adventurers to follow you. Totally RAW.
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2010-03-14, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-14, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-14, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-14, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Wild Cohort feat
Extra Followers feat
Not exactly what you're looking for but it may help.
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2010-03-14, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Could I use Wild Cohort on my Paladin mount since it's technically an animal?
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2010-03-15, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Paladin mounts are treated as magical beasts, though they still get Animal hit dice. Furthermore, the rules for things like animal companions, paladin mounts, familiars, wild cohorts, etc. all contain language like "Use the base statistics for a creature of the ________'s kind, but make the following changes". So you can't just obtain a modified version of one of the available creatures for such a class feature or feat at no cost. You have to take a penalty to your effective level or take the Improved Familiar feat or whatever to get a better creature. Of course, like your character, you can do various things to improve it once you have it (although awaken is explicitly out).
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2010-03-15, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-15, 01:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
I'm pretty sure there's a feat. I was in a PbP game one time with two guys who had two cohorts (one actually had three cohorts). If I remember correctly, it's got some heavy pre-reqs and a huge feat investment, but it's there. I'll go check crystalkeep.
Nope, crystal keep doesn't have it. I have no idea where it's from. I don't have access to their sheets anymore.
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2010-03-15, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
What about controlling unintelligent undead with class levels? Necropolitan cohort perhaps?
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2010-03-15, 05:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
what about undead leadership?
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2010-03-15, 05:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
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2010-03-15, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Now that I think about it...you do get Followers. If you ramp up your Leadership score enough, they may be of high enough level to be equivalent to your Cohort, at least early on (though you need to ramp it well into 50s by level 20 to keep it that way). It may be your best bet though; pick your few highest level cohorts for the other "roles".
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SRD Averages - An aggregation of all the key stats of all the monster entries on SRD arranged by CR.
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2010-03-15, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Undead leadership only applies a -4 penalty on your leadership score for your living follower which is easily negated by being really nice to them (Compassionate), wearing a distinctive item (Who doesn't own a favorite cloak?) and having some really sweet diggs (Stronghold). Besides, what undead owning master of darkness doesn't have a few necromantic cultists running about?
You and your cohorts can also take the improved cohort feat (HoB) in order to minimize the level gap.
Also, nothing really prevents you from taking undead leadership and thrallheard.
The Legendary Leader prestige class from Heros of Battle is decent for buffing your followers, getting extra ones and justifying more cohorts from a role playing perspective.
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2010-03-15, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
The hathran prestige class provides a second cohort at hathran 4.
There is also a rogue feat called guildmaster or something like that which allows a second cohort at 12th level.
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2010-03-15, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
The Thrallherd PrC specifically states it does not work alongside Leadership. The OP seems to want more than one cohort at the same time, as opposed to renewable cohorts.
So while Thrallherd is one of my most favourite psionic Prestige Classes of all time, it isn't the correct answer to the question posed.
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2010-03-15, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
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2010-03-15, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-15, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Leadership and Undead Leadership can both be taken together (I think. Need to double check Libris Mortis). It id definitely the case that RAW thrallherd and Undead Leadership can both be taken together. (Neither UL or Thrallherd mentions the other. Thrallherd just mentions leadership).
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ToB disciplines:
The Narrow Bridge
The Broken Blade
Prestige classess:
Disciple of Karsus -PrC for Karsites.
The Seekers of Lost Swords and the Preserver of Future Blades Two interelated Tome of Battle Prcs,
Master of the Hidden Seal - Binder/Divine hybrid
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2010-03-15, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Last edited by Gadora; 2010-03-15 at 09:50 PM.
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2010-03-15, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Any way to get more than 1 cohort?
Hathran, the most recent version, is Player's Guide to Faerun. It only gets a bonus to Leadership score, and only if your cohort is male barbarian or female spellcaster from the same region (Rashemen).
The older version of Hathran, from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, got a bonus cohort at 1st level of the PrC. The bonus cohort has to be a male barbarian or female spellcaster from the same region (Rashemen).
A quick look at the WotC PrC index doesn't show any Guild Master PrC.Last edited by AbyssKnight; 2010-03-15 at 10:43 PM.