Keychain of Creation 3: Not-a-Keyblade Understanding & Falafel-is-Awesome Prana Combo

[Arcanoi]

I don't understand the obsession with Dodge Charms. Solar Resistance has an unflawed perfect defense.

[Ganurath]

I don't understand the obsession with Dodge Charms. Solar Resistance has an unflawed perfect defense.

Then you aren't reading the same comic as the rest of us. The Sidereals give you free horses!

[ZeroNumerous]

Then you aren't reading the same comic as the rest of us. The Sidereals give you free horses!

I dodge the lack of transportation!

[The Demented One]

I'll put my money on Resistance. Both Dodge and Parry depend on mobility.

Not with perfect charms, they don't.

[Ganurath]

I dodge the lack of transportation!

No, seriously, the Sidereals give you free horses.

[The Demented One]

I don't understand the obsession with Dodge Charms. Solar Resistance has an unflawed perfect defense.

Adamant Skin Technique has the flaw of not stopping bad touch.

[Tackyhillbillu]

HGD isn't contingent on anything but having a weapon. And not even then, if you stunt up an improvised.

I parry the Mountain Range with the Salad Fork.

[Jokasti]

Actually, it's his fold-up windblade.

I do volunteer information when I think someone's misunderstood something. Or if the answer won't come up in the comic itself.

Blasphemy! Blasphemy, I say!
Cool windblade though. Forgot he had it. Since you bring it up, he'll probably use it to defeat FaFL.

[small pumpkin m]

I don't understand the obsession with Dodge Charms. Solar Resistance has an unflawed perfect defense.

I don't actually play the game, but from reading too many threads on rpg.net, my understanding is that the resistance perfect makes you immune to damage (which is cool) and if the character is built with good non-perfect dodge charms & appropriate artifacts/hearthstones/whatever does so at a relatively mote efficient rate (which is very cool) but don't protect you from things which kill you without needing to do damage (which is totally uncool). Hence the need for Dodge Charms.

[tonberrian]

Bah, give me a Precalculated Evasion System with a Transphase Engine. May not be as good as SSE, but I can teleport through walls.

[Jerthanis]

Actually, it's his fold-up windblade.

I do volunteer information when I think someone's misunderstood something. Or if the answer won't come up in the comic itself.

I thought Secret was borrowing that.

I love Saturday Morning Cartoon flying skateboards.

[ZeroNumerous]

No, seriously, the Sidereals give you free horses.

I dodge the lack of transportation.

[horngeek]

...I just got the joke of the buttons at the bottom of the comic.

Also, wow. Scenery porn, anyone?

[Justyn]

...I just got the joke of the buttons at the bottom of the comic.

Also, wow. Scenery porn, anyone?

That Marena is naked in the "forward" button? If that's not it, can you tell me what it is?

[The_Snark]

I always liked those buttons.

Ten is First; he's the eldest of the group.
Misho is Back, which—given his strong association with the past—seems fitting.
Marena is Forward, but you knew that already.
Secret is Latest... which could be because she's youngest, or because Abyssals carry the future...

... ominous.

Anyway. Nice symbolism there, more visually interesting than plain buttons but not too distracting.

[horngeek]

It's not just that Marena's nekkid.

It's the expressions on Secret and Misho.

I had noticed the expressions before, but I only just realised they were because Marena was sans clothes.

[Xelloss]

So, [flaws are] badly written/uninteresting?

They are of two kind : useless or broken.

What Charm is used to create the desk in the first comic?

I made it as a joke about Glorious Solar X Charms.

In fact Words-as-Workshop Method actually does that, along with the Glorious Solar Screwdriver, the Glorious Solar Sandpaper and such tools.

[Gez]

And here we see the triumphant return of the Glorious Solar [Desk]!

[Allan Surgite]

Secret's training never gets easier.

And the Glorious Solar [Desk] returns! There will be much rejoicing.

[Hopeless]

Now I want to make an Abyssal who hangs around with his Solar nemesis because he has some bizarre form of honor where he won't kill the guy except in a straight up fight, and the nemesis won't engage in a straight up fight until he finishes his quest to save the world. Getting bonuses for monologuing and building overly elaborate death traps amuses me. Especially if I can use the charm "Glorious Solar Perverted Abyssal Deathtrap."

I have to pick up some 2nd edition exalted other than the pdf of the base rulebook!

Would such a character work in exalted?

I don't see why not, in the campaign I'm finetuning I see the abyssals as being the first kind of exalted that was created, the original solars were those who succeeded in freeing themselves and fighting back at the original foes the first of the former abyssal turned solar whom was named quite simply the "Firstborn" has remained alive because the great curse just didn't work on him.

Still it seems I have a lot of reading to catch up on so hope to catch up with more on this thread as I have to head out now and play some runequest!

Take care and all the best!

[Yuki Akuma]

Why would he still be alive if the Great Curse hadn't worked on him? Exalts don't die of old age because of the Curse.

Also, having Abyssals as the first kind to be created is... weird. You'd have to rework the entire backstory.

[Jukashi]

Why would he still be alive if the Great Curse hadn't worked on him? Exalts don't die of old age because of the Curse.

But there'd be less reason for him to be killed, and Abyssals don't die of old age. They're immortal until something kills them.

Then, unless they get that one Charm that lets them come back as a ghost, they get flushed straight down the big black drain.

Or did they change that in 2E?

[Kyeudo]

But there'd be less reason for him to be killed, and Abyssals don't die of old age. They're immortal until something kills them.

Then, unless they get that one Charm that lets them come back as a ghost, they get flushed straight down the big black drain.

Or did they change that in 2E?

They get a Willpower roll against their own Essence to come back as a ghost instead of hitting Oblivion.

[horngeek]

But there'd be less reason for him to be killed, and Abyssals don't die of old age. They're immortal until something kills them.

Then, unless they get that one Charm that lets them come back as a ghost, they get flushed straight down the big black drain.

Or did they change that in 2E?

As Kyeudo said, they get a willpower roll to come back as a ghost.

There's also one charm which allows them to perform Solar mirrors of their charms for Resonance. Incidentally, an Abyssal who knows this charm goes to Lethe when he dies.

[The Rose Dragon]

Incidentally, an Abyssal who knows this charm goes to Lethe when he dies.

Of course, since the fate of a hun is much, much less important than the fate of an Exaltation, that is a very incidental benefit.

EDIT: Unless the said hun becomes a ghost and joins with a dead Third Circle soul of a Neverborn. Then you get a Deathlord.

[Xelloss]

Now I want to make an Abyssal who hangs around with his Solar nemesis because he has some bizarre form of honor where he won't kill the guy except in a straight up fight, and the nemesis won't engage in a straight up fight until he finishes his quest to save the world. Getting bonuses for monologuing and building overly elaborate death traps amuses me. Especially if I can use the charm "Glorious Solar Perverted Abyssal Deathtrap."

Would such a character work in exalted?

Sound much more like an Infernal Nemesis to me. Here is a list of actions that give them bonuses :
Infernal Genius Declaration : Monologuing
Fiendish Deathtrap Compulsion : Deathtrap
Insane Death-Dealing Provocation : warning note
Kindly Lunatic Blessing : making people mad
Best Enemy Recognition : arch-enemy
Exquisite Bride Obsession : "and now I will marry the female protagonist in an long an complicated ceremony !"

[Yuki Akuma]

But there'd be less reason for him to be killed, and Abyssals don't die of old age. They're immortal until something kills them.

Then, unless they get that one Charm that lets them come back as a ghost, they get flushed straight down the big black drain.

Or did they change that in 2E?

Aha!

The one Manual of Exalted Power I don't have... *grumble*

[horngeek]

Exquisite Bride Obsession : "and now I will marry the female protagonist in an long an complicated ceremony !"

...I just had the following image at this.

Marena, bound (either with Manacles of Night, or another artifact added that has the same effect), gagged, in a wedding dress, and being marched to a wedding alongside an Infernal version of Misho.

...

[Tavar]

Is Marena even Misho's Lunar Bond, though? I thought that it was still inconclusive.

[horngeek]

I'm pretty sure she is.

Of course, I could be utterly wrong, but it just seems to... fit... better than anything else.

Of course, the 'Infernal version of Misho' bit isn't the biggest part of it- swap to another Infernal if you like.

...basically, my reaction to my idea was 'slightly disturbing, but at the same time, want fanart'.