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    Default Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II

    Basically, a challenge to create an optimised, flavourful character, using a "secret ingredient" of a particular PrC, revealed only once the competition has started. You will need to present your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:

    1. Menu: For most challenges, the "secret ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.

    2. Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below.

    3. Cooking Time: Contests will be announced a week in advance, to give people time to sign up. Following a week of sign-ups, the "secret ingredient" will be announced. Contestants will have one week to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman (most likely me, at least for the first few.) Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying.

    4. Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Secret Ingredient.

    Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.

    Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavour for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic point lost in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points.

    5. Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor.

    6. Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.

    7. Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners.


    So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for 3-4 judges and as many contestants as feel like playing!

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    Brendan

    Contestants:
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    Mushroom Ninja
    Godskook
    the_archduke
    Soonerdj
    gallagher
    Private-Prinny
    FishAreWet
    playswithfire
    Gametime
    Wings of Peace
    Akal Saris
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    the humanity
    magic9mushroom
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    Evil the Cat
    The Rabbler
    rogueboy
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    Tehnar
    Malificus
    KitTheOdd
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    Togo
    Escheton
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    Danin
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    I'm plausibly in.

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    Me and my obligitory 10 characters are in.

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    I'm in!

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    I'm in. I just hope its something a tad more open ended than the entropymancer from the first one.
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    I'd like to try and cook up a dish

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    I swear THIS time I'll have a build.
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    I would like to judge; I love writing constructive criticisms. I'm a little rusty on 3.5 but I can be like the ditsy celebrity judge they always get on Iron Chef


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    With my second-to-last place in the last one, I think this time I'll just judge it (seeing as we had 2 judges represent out of 4 last time)

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    Totally in, I've been practicing over the past few weeks and I'm ready to rock.
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    count me in
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    I'll give it a shot.

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    I'm in again. And this time I'll try harder to remember.

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    I like theme builds. Count me in as a competitor.
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    I'd like to try my hand at this. Count me in.
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    Just try to stop me from competing
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    Well, if Wings is in, then I guess I'm in again as well :)
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    Well, if Wings is in, then I guess I'm in again as well :)
    This time I'll get you Akal!
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    In again!
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    I am participating.

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    I'll try my hand.

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    I'm probably in. Just as long as it's not as useless as Entropomancer.
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    I would be available as a judge, since you seem to have a surplus of entrants and a dearth of judges
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    I'd be happy to judge, actually. I'd appreciate a PM involving judging details and deadlines, of course.

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    I'm probably in. Just as long as it's not as useless as Entropomancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic9mushroom View Post
    I'm probably in. Just as long as it's not as useless as Entropomancer.
    Even supposedly 'useless' classes can usually be tweaked around to something useful. Hell, I did it with CW Samurai, you can do it with what is at least a caster...
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    This sounds fun, I'd like to give it a shot.
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    this looks like a lot of fun, count me in.
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    optimization is like salt. a pinch here and there can't hurt, but too much will spoil everything.

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    Sweet, we have 4 judges (and I think it's a great panel, if I do say so myself). But there's a ton of potential competitors...maybe they should divide up into flights or something? I guess we'll see how many folks actually submit builds to Heliomance.


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    Put me down as a contestant! I should actually have enough time to be able to put something together for this next quarter, and I definitely need to get back into looking at this kind of thing.
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