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2010-03-29, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-29, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
can you pm a excel char sheet?
or better said, what sort of format is standard in sending the char and its progression?
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2010-03-29, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
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2010-03-30, 03:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
I would also like to further point out that if you have some nifty combo of abilities, make sure to mention it on your sheet in the 'comments' section. Not all combos are immediately recognizable. In fact, some of the best ones are more subtle, requiring things to be pointed out.
Failing to do so could mean the Judges would not realize the true power of the build, and so score you low on the 'power' section, and perhaps even the 'efficiency' section if it just seems like a cludgy mass of things that don't work together.
For example, my build Takahashi, which was rather infamous in certain areas, had a very interesting combination of skills, feats, class abilities, and equipment which together was an exceedingly cheesy combo. Basically, he rapidly increased his Intimidate skill, took a feat from Drow of the Underdark to make you Cowering when he Intimidates, used a piece of equipment from the same source to make it a Move action to do so, then used the CW Samurai's Mass Staredown ability to do so to every opponent within 30'.
However, looking at the character sheet, you'd see he had optimized his Intimidate check, but may be unaware of how that synergizes with his armor enchantment and the feat... and since we all know how useless Intimidate normally is... score him as pathetically weak, since all he had were levels in CW Samurai.SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
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2010-03-30, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Preferred submission format is typed out in a PM. Myth weavers is acceptable, as is google docs (!) and anything else that you want to link to Personally, though, I prefer not having to click to another site to view builds.
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2010-03-30, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Character names... my old nemesis. The build is done, but I just need the final and most crucial piece of fluff. Can someone point me to an abusable random generator?
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2010-03-30, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Behind the Name. I use this for all my needs!
All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2010-03-31, 03:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Contest closes on Friday!
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2010-03-31, 04:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Nearly finished, just have to spend at list a bit of my character's WBL as well as write out the fluff (which is all in my head already).
Will probably submit today, or tomorrow if something comes up.
Recently resurrected. Sorry for bailing on you guys.
"Never play leapfrog with a unicorn"
Awesome OOTSatar by Crimmy, masterfully done.
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2010-03-31, 05:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Can you give the hour when submissions stop being accepted? I only have time to do a writeup on Friday morning (though Central European time).
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2010-03-31, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm at home for the holidays and my computer access is somewhat sporadic. It'll be whenever I get to the computer, most likely late evening/night BST.
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2010-04-01, 12:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
This may just be me, but I can't find a char sheet or anything to replace one on that link (I'll admit I didn't look particularly hard)... Is there any chance someone could point me a little more directly at where I should be looking?
I've got the basics figured out, and I'm hoping I'll have the time to crank out the rest of it tomorrow evening.
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2010-04-01, 12:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2010-04-01, 01:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-01, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2010-04-01, 05:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Incidentally, we have trophies for first and second place, courtesy of Strategos!
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2010-04-01, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Cool!
Incidentally, build submitted.
Recently resurrected. Sorry for bailing on you guys.
"Never play leapfrog with a unicorn"
Awesome OOTSatar by Crimmy, masterfully done.
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2010-04-01, 11:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge II
Oooh, trophies!
Also, build submitted. Now, time to pack for NYC!Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
Trophies!Spoiler
Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!
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2010-04-01, 11:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Can't wait to start seeing some builds!
All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2010-04-02, 12:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Woohoo! My submission is finally in!
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2010-04-02, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, submissions are now CLOSED! Sheets to follow!
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2010-04-02, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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First, a street rat made good. I give you...
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2010-04-02, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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As beautiful as she is deadly, the alluring
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2010-04-02, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Lord of the underworld, leader of the Rogue, please put your hands together for
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2010-04-02, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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You'd best be careful when this character's about. Can you be sure your thoughts are there is no mind control, Citizen. Go back to your fun.
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2010-04-02, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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She's just the average woman on the street. She's that one, as well.And that one. Last but not least, may I present:
Originally Posted by Alyx KarmenLast edited by Heliomance; 2010-04-02 at 03:45 PM.
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2010-04-02, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ok, we've got five builds here. I'll get to rating shortly, and will probably be done this evening or tomorrow sometime. What's my deadline for rating, and how should I announce the scores? Publicly?
As a note, to those five that entered, I am very impressed with the complexity and skill these characters are formed with. They all have something that made me go "oooh, clever!" on first glance, meaning you can all expect good scores from me.Last edited by arguskos; 2010-04-02 at 04:51 PM.
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2010-04-02, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Deadline for rating is whenever it's collectively decided that it doesn't look like any more judges are gonna show, or when all judges have given a verdict :P
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2010-04-02, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wow, that's a lot to read
Even so - are these 5 builds all we got out of the 26 people who signed up? Just want to know before I start posting results.My friend and I have a blog, we write D&D stuff there: http://forgotmydice.com/
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2010-04-02, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bam! Judging hits!
Cy, the Half-Elf Agent
Originality: 4. The backstory is heavily detailed and very well put. Your build works out great as well, and is creative with your use of Warlock and Mountebank, both of which I didn't connect with Psibond Agent at all.
Power: 3.5. Now, this is because poor Cy basically gets rolled in actual combat. Cy's arena is outside of actual battle, but you can't stay out of it forever, meaning Cy will eventually be tied down and slaughtered by a superior opponent. Given, you will hopefully have thralls, but that doesn't always happen. This is a common theme with many of these entries: lack of decent things to do in combat (no, UMD does not count entirely).
Elegance: 5. Cy is absolutely excellently executed. The build is polished and smooth, the fluff is clean, the build is almost the definition of elegance in optimization. The only flaw I see is the use of Psibond Agent (see below).
Use of Secret Ingredient: 3. Now, don't get me wrong, I really liked your build. However, you entered Psibond at level 10. While it IS dominant in the build, it's still a late entry, meaning I'm fairly disappointed.
Final Verdict: 3.875, round up to 4 or so. Cy is a solid build I'd be happy to play in a social-heavy level 11+ game. For the late game, it really comes into its own, and it's a good way to showcase Psibond Agent.
Lirea, the Dark Dancer
Originality: 4.5. Like Cy, Lirea is really a fun and interesting build. The idea of making a Paimon-focused Psibond Agent really appeals to me in a lot of ways, and I feel you should be commended for making something that has some real combat potential. Further, your use of Cloaked Dancer was clever. I rarely see (or even think about) that PrC, and this is a good use of it.
Power: 4. I personally like Lirea's power level. It's in the range I shoot for myself, with some op'd stuff across the board, while not ignoring other areas. You aren't as skilled in the social skills as some of the other entries, but I think that you are still solid enough to do anything you need to, which is a good mark. Breadth with power, that's a good place to be.
Elegance: 3.5. This build is not as elegant as I'd like. The fluff feels a little tacked on and forced (though the last bit, with the assassinations, is clever), and the use of two levels of Marshal seems a bit like a waste.
Use of Secret Ingredient: 5. You hit Psibond on schedule at 7, and I LOVE THAT. I means I can be a PsiAgent ASAP, which says to me you said "hey, PsiAg is the main focus, let's get into it ASAP!" I like that.
Final Verdict: 4.25. Lirea is a great build, using one of my favorite classes as a key piece of the build (Binder), has an excellent use of PsiAg, and is well rounded. I would be happy to play this build.
Hugo Clopin, King of the Court of Miracles!
Originality: 3. This is much more of a typical build like I was expecting (and hoping not to see). I do like the use of Magical Trickster on the end, but I generally feel that the build itself is kinda bleh.
Power: 4. Hugo is powerful. 4th level spells, PsiAg with good DCs, lots of tricks. Nothing to complain about here.
Elegance: 4. The build, while expected, is still very slick and well done. Lots of thought was put into tactics, build order, feat selection, and similar things. It is a textbook case of optimization not inhibiting tactics and elegance. In fact, I might be saving Hugo to show friends what a strong build SHOULD look like.
Use of Secret Ingredient: 4. You hit it at 7, and make great use of it. That's really good, but I was hoping to see an earlier entry (see Lirea for a great entry). However, it's still solid.
Final Verdict: 3.75. Hugo is a good build, strong tactics, but plays it safe. It's a standard "safe" build, one I'd recommend to a less-adventurous player. I'd also suggest it to a DM who was less willing to admit more adventurous material, such as the Binder or something more exotic.
Lárus, The Puppetmaster
Originality: 3.5. I wasn't really expecting a Bard build, but then again, looking back on it, PsiAg really does reward Bards. It's not really the most creative build ever (being simple to make and being fairly obvious in hindsight), but it works well enough I guess. The fluff is better than I was expecting, and feels sorta like you wrote it, then worked out a character, which I like.
Power: 3. Larus is a bard, with psychic powers. Not sure how that COULD go wrong, and it obviously didn't. However, there are other, better, things to do with your build than take ten levels of Bard, and it hurts your power.
Elegance: 2.5. Bard 10 is ugly and feels very brute-forced. I was hoping to see something more smooth and streamlined, especially when Bard 10 doesn't really GIVE you anything. Further, the build doesn't really come together until level FIFTEEN (in your own words), which is really disappointing. I was hoping for something that would be playable sooner. Before then, he's a bard sure, but still, nothing notable.
Use of Secret Ingredient: 3. You get your first level of PsiAg at level 10, which is again, disappointing. I like early entries so I can play as the Secret Ingredient ASAP.
Final Verdict: 3. Larus is a solid entry, but Bard 10 REALLY tanks it in so many ways. The use of PsiAg wasn't really revolutionary, and Larus doesn't pack the punch that some of the others have. Overall, a good entry to the contest, but I was hoping for something more... revolutionary, I guess.
Alyx Karmen
Originality: 3.5. I was expecting a Rogue-entry. However, I wasn't expecting Spymaster. That's a fairly interesting twist. However, Rogue 5 is kinda boring. It works though, I'll give you that.
Power: 3. Given that you didn't bother to complete your gear, which is disappointing, I can't really judge this amazingly well (gear has a HUGE impact on power). I'd ballpark that you're going to be a good social character, and useless elsewhere. Just like Cy, I mark down for that, since it means you'll die if you get cornered without an out.
Elegance: 3.5. Rogue 5 is a good entry, but I feel like more could have been done to capitalize on PsiAg than Rogue offers. However, you get .5 for using Spymaster at all (brave, brave soul that you are).
Use of Secret Ingredient: 2. You didn't even finish the class. That feels very much like a lack of caring, which is sad to me.
Final Verdict: 3. Alyx has some good ideas, and the fluff/tactics section is very detailed, which says to me that you had some great ideas, and didn't finish for lack of time. That, while regrettable, is understandable. However, and this is a HUGE pet peeve, you didn't bother to post your character into the PM, and made me click through to Myth-Weavers. That's... aggravating. I can't mark you down for it, since you were permitted to do so, but it annoys me.
Final Winner (in my eyes): Lirea, the Dark Dancer. Lirea is a great case of broad-spectrum optimization with a few heavy focused areas, and she can still play nice with the party. The build was smooth, the fluff was decent enough, and the use of PsiAg was creative and fresh. Overall, I really liked Lirea, and feel the maker (you know who you are) should be commended. Course, that's just me.
Final Judging Notes: No matter what I may have said above, I'd like to point out that each of you made something great. You had limited time, were making something for the PUBLIC to judge, and still came through and made something. Even if I didn't like it or said something you disagreed with, I'd hope that you understand that I appreciate the effort and time you gave to this contest. I hope to see more from each of you in the contests Heliomance will undoubtably run in the future.
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