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    Quote Originally Posted by Dvandemon View Post
    I don't know what to say for myself, I fantasize about guys and girls, but I don't really want to get into bed with a guy. Does that make me bi?
    I'd say it makes you "open to many interesting possibilities". XD
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    Doggywoggy: Pfffft.





    (yeah, I know, I haven't updated it in forever...)

    Meh, fantasies don't really mean much. If you would want to actually experience those fantasies? Maybe. But even then, experimentation/fooling around doesn't necessarily = sexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentine View Post
    Doggywoggy: Pfffft.
    I thought of that graph too, but there's lots missing. Being more attracted to mental/physical, lots of people involved in sex/few people involved. ET CETERA.


    Also, Doggywoggy? At least it's better than "Doggy Style"...
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    Meh, I'd count those more as "personal preference". "Sex you're attracted to" and "how much you want sex" are more... in-built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentine View Post
    Meh, I'd count those more as "personal preference". "Sex you're attracted to" and "how much you want sex" are more... in-built.
    At least the mental/physical one is in-built. I shall concede my lots of people/few people point though 'cause I was straining for another example. Shush.
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    It might, arguably, be similarly built-in, but it's also extremely complicated and would be even less chartable than the ones I already charted. For example: for me, appearance means the most to me to start with. Even in that, I'm more interested in "interesting-looking" than "good-looking". However, not only is personality/mental attributes by far the deal-breaker for me, but it can affect how I see their physical form (i.e. people I like start looking more attractive, people I don't less). Then there's other extremes, where a truly exemplary personality can go a long way towards counteracting bad looks, and (to a lesser extent), vice-versa.
    Etc. etc. so on and so forth.

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    Hence the requirement of more axes than actually exist.

    You cannot argue with me on this front. I draw graphs all the time. For fun.
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    It would be literally impossible to design a chart just for mental/physical attraction, because it doesn't have anything close to a linear gradient. You could as well try to chart... I dunno... the diets of all the animals in the world. Yeah, you can't. So what?

    Next question: Why does this annoy me so much?

    edit: Regarding your last bit, so do I. Point being?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentine View Post
    It would be literally impossible to design a chart just for mental/physical attraction, because it doesn't have anything close to a linear gradient. You could as well try to chart... I dunno... the diets of all the animals in the world. Yeah, you can't. So what?
    'twas just a little comparison that I thought would be funny. I think you may be doing what's known as "over-analysing"

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    edit: Regarding your last bit, so do I. Point being?
    Point being we should totally start a club!

    So uh, on a completely different note, how 'bout those attractive [members of preferred sex] then?
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    Tch, you started it.

    Indeed we should!

    They are indeed attractive.

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    I think I once again completely lost track of what was being said.
    I blame my short attention span and the ginormous quantity of work I have yet to complete for university exams.

    On a different note, my mother finally cooled down about me being bisexual. And genderqueer. (Though she still isn't sure what that means).
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    Meh, nothin' of consequence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentine View Post
    (yeah, I know, I haven't updated it in forever...)
    Care to throw in one more? X:2 Y:6.

    And putting enjoyment and interest in one point was difficult for me to average, enjoyment would be higher than interest, but I think that evens it out. Although you've already discussed the many ways that the graph could be complicated.

    Anyone got any good crush stories in the theme of the thread? It's a theme of the moment for me, and sometimes they can be fun to share, mine will appear post-sleeps.
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    I think I once again completely lost track of what was being said.
    I blame my short attention span and the ginormous quantity of work I have yet to complete for university exams.

    On a different note, my mother finally cooled down about me being bisexual. And genderqueer. (Though she still isn't sure what that means).
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    Sexuality is such a varied thing that to plot it on a graph you'd need at least five more dimensions than actually exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by albis View Post
    On a different note, my mother finally cooled down about me being bisexual. And genderqueer. (Though she still isn't sure what that means).
    Yay me.
    Yay you!

    My mother once even told me that she really wouldn't have a problem with one of her kids being gay (kind of funny, my father is very liberal politically and is the first to fight for individual rights and everything, while at the same time, personally, he has a very conservative mindset over all things gender or sexuality related, strange combination), but that she didn't really understand bisexuality, and I didn't want to press the issue because I've been in a happy relationship with my girlfriend for more than 7 years now, so no reason to tell her what she doesn't have to know.

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    So, I think I might be on the verge of writing a story that focuses on an anonymous narrator that represents me - a story about TG feelings and those of inadequacy and fear.

    This all springs from a story in the local college's poems and stories collection. As soon as I noticed the hints that the protagonist was lesbian, I could almost immediately see how the story progressed. The sad thing is, every other "story" I've read in this collection regarding any kind of LGBT subject seems to follow the exact same story progression. Discovery -> Happiness -> Violence -> Getting Over It. I kind of want to do something OUTSIDE of that... more of Discovery -> Fear -> More Fear -> Triumph. One that doesn't quite include the word "rape" or "beaten and tortured" halfway through the story.

    Am I stretching it? Or is this just more of the same? I sort of feel like if I write something like this, people just won't..."get it".
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    Thanks!
    Also, that sounds good to me, Derjuin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogmantra View Post
    Hence the requirement of more axes than actually exist.
    I doubt the problem could be solved simply by adding any number of axes. In the end, we would still be dealing with entirely subjective notions that each represents a different extremely complex and inherently undecipherable blend of desires, experiences, feelings, choices, perceptions, opinions, and plain dumb randomness ; there would simply be more of them.

    This might be oh-so-slightly off topic, but, knowing how deep, how intricate, how ineluctable are all the infinite things that should keep us literally estranged from each other... I'm constantly amazed by the incredible capacity we have as humans beings to relate to each other. And the most stunning part of it is that I usually find this empathic capacity at its strongest, not between members of a same "hive-minded" group, but among those who celebrate human nature in all its diversity. Among those who are connected to each other, not by their difference, but by their differences. And for this, you all deserve a lifetime supply of huggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogmantra View Post

    Also, Doggywoggy? At least it's better than "Doggy Style"...
    Then you're doing it wrong, evidently.

    Derjuin, you might want to try I'm From Driftwood if you want to scrawl an autobiographical thing - not quite the same, but I'm plugging the site 'cause mine got put up on there last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murdim View Post
    I doubt the problem could be solved simply by adding any number of axes. In the end, we would still be dealing with entirely subjective notions that each represents a different extremely complex and inherently undecipherable blend of desires, experiences, feelings, choices, perceptions, opinions, and plain dumb randomness ; there would simply be more of them.
    I bet my infinite number of monkeys could do it. Once they're done with the Shakespeare, I'll give 'em some graph paper and see what turns up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murdim View Post
    I doubt the problem could be solved simply by adding any number of axes. In the end, we would still be dealing with entirely subjective notions that each represents a different extremely complex and inherently undecipherable blend of desires, experiences, feelings, choices, perceptions, opinions, and plain dumb randomness ; there would simply be more of them.

    This might be oh-so-slightly off topic, but, knowing how deep, how intricate, how ineluctable are all the infinite things that should keep us literally estranged from each other... I'm constantly amazed by the incredible capacity we have as humans beings to relate to each other. And the most stunning part of it is that I usually find this empathic capacity at its strongest, not between members of a same "hive-minded" group, but among those who celebrate human nature in all its diversity. Among those who are connected to each other, not by their difference, but by their differences. And for this, you all deserve a lifetime supply of huggles.
    Relevant.

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    Oh, come on, that was months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lix Lorn View Post
    Oh, come on, that was months ago.
    It was my cat. You cannot do that to my cat, especially not with an electric toothbrush and a quart of pastry cream, and expect forgiveness in just a couple of months. Every time I go to brush my teeth, she goes and hides in the attic now. *I* needed weeks of therapy. And I can only pray that she'll someday stop going catatonic at the sight of seagulls.
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    Oh come on, you have to admit is was funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lix Lorn View Post
    Oh come on, you have to admit is was funny!
    Oh, I have to, do I?

    Fine. I'll admit it was funny if you post a video of someone in a cat suit doing the same to you, and not a moment before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derjuin View Post
    The sad thing is, every other "story" I've read in this collection regarding any kind of LGBT subject seems to follow the exact same story progression. Discovery -> Happiness -> Violence -> Getting Over It. I kind of want to do something OUTSIDE of that... more of Discovery -> Fear -> More Fear -> Triumph.
    That's not really suprising. Until very recently in the history of western civilization, it was mostly unthinkable to write a book which depicts a nontraditional sexual behavior of any kind in an unambiguously positive light. If you ever wanted to make a sympathetic "deviant" character, you had to make something horrible happen to him, so that you don't give the impression to condone and encourage that behavior, however harmless it may be. Coincidentally, it makes good drama ; which might explain why even today, people seem so reluctant to stray away from this outline.

    Also, if it can help, I'd say that the quest for self-discovery and self-acceptance is sometimes less about triumphs, and more about changes of paradigm... for the better.

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    Hey, I am the ranting anynomous(sp) person few pages ago. Finally decided to just register and be myself just once

    Almost got a heartattack yesterday. I was browsing this thread when I felt thirsty and left to get a drink. When I enter the kitchen I hear mum walking towards my room and shouting that she will check the e-mail. I must have made my own speed record in running back to my room and closing mozilla before she saw this thread

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