LGBTitp - Part Six

[Lix Lorn]

Nice to meet you!

Oh, I have to, do I?

Fine. I'll admit it was funny if you post a video of someone in a cat suit doing the same to you, and not a moment before.

(Puts up sign)
Wanted: Cat Person

[golentan]

Hey, I am the ranting anynomous(sp) person few pages ago. Finally decided to just register and be myself just once

Almost got a heartattack yesterday. I was browsing this thread when I felt thirsty and left to get a drink. When I enter the kitchen I hear mum walking towards my room and shouting that she will check the e-mail. I must have made my own speed record in running back to my room and closing mozilla before she saw this thread

Welcome!

Umm... Which anonymous person were you?

[Quincunx]

Derjuin: I'd guess that the problem of unoriginality there is more that all your authors there are college-aged in their mindsets. That story formula seems to be as unavoidable a step of the author's progress as the 'for every line, an adverb (obviously)' phase, and it seems to crop up most often in university, the classic 'question yourself' time. Heck, if you want to distinguish yourself from them, it'll be as simple as not bothering to justify yourself in your writings. Think of what the freshly outed say at such length to soothe themselves, and don't repeat it. The problem will be balancing such statements free of justification and inner struggle against the introspective writing you'd need to do to make overcoming fear be interesting to the reader.

--constant reader, becoming jaded.

[Delusion]

Welcome!

Umm... Which anonymous person were you?

The one page 29 ^^

PS. I think I saw a knowing smile on mom's face when I rushed past her to close mozilla >.>

[Pyrian]

PS. I think I was a knowing smile on mom's face when I rushed past her to close mozilla >.>

She probably thought it was pr0n.

[golentan]

The one page 29 ^^

PS. I think I was a knowing smile on mom's face when I rushed past her to close mozilla >.>

Gotcha. The Kid with the GID. Any movement on that, having had some more time to mull it over?

And yeah. A late teens guy eager to get to the computer that he left running before his parent gets there? Something is obviously up. Don't worry, though, she probably just thinks you were looking at inappropriate websites, rather than something terrible like having a civil discussion with a bunch of geeks.

[Murdim]

PS. I think I was a knowing smile on mom's face when I rushed past her to close mozilla >.>

Well, she certainly guessed you had something potentially compromising to hide. But I don't think that the first idea of what exactly you're so eager to conceal that crossed her mind was "my son is a closeted transgender lurking on the LGBT-themed topic of some nerdy forum". There's countless "shameful" things one can browse on the Internet. Pr0n, fanfics, silly colorful browser games, Bulbapedia...

Oh, and don't worry about golentan. He might be quite weird or even scary at times, but he still has to atrociously murder the entire family of any intervenant. I think he's learning to tolerate us.

[Delusion]

Now that you say it like, it does seem rather silly >.<

[Lorolar]

(Puts up sign)
Wanted: Cat Person

I'll handle this!

I even brought my own toothbrush

[Delusion]

Gotcha. The Kid with the GID. Any movement on that, having had some more time to mull it over?

Well bit better, being able to function and all but still confused as hell

[Deth Muncher]

I think if I saw a guy in the street wearing a skirt and looking completely comfortable, I'd go up to him and give him a hug and a high five. It's not hurting anyone else. Let people dress how they want.

I actually have a guy friend (who I may or may not have mentioned here before) who was just randomly wearing a skirt one time. I, trying to not offend, was like "Hey, that's an oddly colored kilt y'got there." He's like "Nope, it's a skirt. They're really comfy." I couldn't debate that logic.

[golentan]

Oh, and don't worry about golentan. He might be quite weird or even scary at times, but he still has to atrociously murder the entire family of any intervenant. I think he's learning to tolerate us.

Nobody... has ever described me that way. Ever.

[Lix Lorn]

Well, an avatar asking for hugs does make you woobieish. XD

@Deth Muncher-Your friend rocks.
@Lorolar-Awesome! Meet me in the bathroom in eight minutes.

[Serpentine]

That's not really suprising. Until very recently in the history of western civilization, it was mostly unthinkable to write a book which depicts a nontraditional sexual behavior of any kind in an unambiguously positive light. If you ever wanted to make a sympathetic "deviant" character, you had to make something horrible happen to him, so that you don't give the impression to condone and encourage that behavior, however harmless it may be. Coincidentally, it makes good drama ; which might explain why even today, people seem so reluctant to stray away from this outline.

In high school I wrote a story that had vaguely romanticish elements. I lost marks because it was unclear until the end that it was written from the perspective of a male, making the romanticish elements homosexual in nature. It was in the form of a diary. Who would mention their sex in their own diary?
'course, it did involve a school shooting, but that had nothing to do with the homosexualitishness...

[Delusion]

I actually have a guy friend (who I may or may not have mentioned here before) who was just randomly wearing a skirt one time. I, trying to not offend, was like "Hey, that's an oddly colored kilt y'got there." He's like "Nope, it's a skirt. They're really comfy." I couldn't debate that logic.

Now that is just badass

[Rappy]

Now that is just badass

I concur.

Also, welcome to the thread, Delusion! You're amongst sisters in arms as far as your GID goes, and overall you're amongst friends.

*Hugs!*

[Deth Muncher]

I concur.

Also, welcome to the thread, Delusion! You're amongst sisters in arms as far as your GID goes, and overall you're amongst friends.

*Hugs!*

Whoa there skipper, I claim to be friends with no one.
It's just automatically assumed. :D

Also, as to my friend: said friend is also planning on getting the man->woman surgery (what's the proper term for that, anyway? I know I've heard it...), so he's generally in a female mindset anyway. (This is not the same friend of mine from a few pages back, btw.)

[Rappy]

Whoa there skipper, I claim to be friends with no one.
It's just automatically assumed. :D

Indeed. I see what you did there.

Also, as to my friend: said friend is also planning on getting the man->woman surgery (what's the proper term for that, anyway? I know I've heard it...), so he's generally in a female mindset anyway. (This is not the same friend of mine from a few pages back, btw.)

That would be sex reassignment surgery.

[Nameless]

I actually have a guy friend (who I may or may not have mentioned here before) who was just randomly wearing a skirt one time. I, trying to not offend, was like "Hey, that's an oddly colored kilt y'got there." He's like "Nope, it's a skirt. They're really comfy." I couldn't debate that logic.

That's because the logic of a skirt is flawless. TO THE SKIRT SHOP!

[Serpentine]

...skirt shop?

[Nameless]

...skirt shop?

I'm glad that we're on the same page.

[Deth Muncher]

...skirt shop?

Y'know. It's that shop, in which you buy skirts. Y'know? Yeah.

[Delusion]

I concur.

Also, welcome to the thread, Delusion! You're amongst sisters in arms as far as your GID goes, and overall you're amongst friends.

*Hugs!*

I used to have a custom smiley somewhere. In it the other smile hugged the other so hard that it strangled. But since I can't find it:

*HUGS!*

[Delta]

I just read on a german news page that the US congress abolished the "Don't ask, don't tell"-policy for their armed forces yesterday, I don't know how accurate the report is but it sounds like a big step into the right direction to me.

[Lycan 01]

Sorry, that report got it wrong. There's been no vote or anything like that yet. They're working on it, though. It'll just take awhile for a repeal to get through the legal system, and there have to be several votes and a lot of support for it. I think the article you saw was just referencing a remark by the Speaker of the House saying it was a very real posibility, and there were enough votes for it to pass... whenever it actually gets voted on.



Now that we've cleared that up (unless the Yahoo article I checked was mistaken), lets move away from politics...

[Delta]

Sorry, didn't even think of that, just read it and wondered about how accurate it was, thanks for clearing it up, won't happen again, I promise

[Quincunx]

In high school I wrote a story that had vaguely romanticish elements. I lost marks because it was unclear until the end that it was written from the perspective of a male, making the romanticish elements homosexual in nature. It was in the form of a diary. Who would mention their sex in their own diary? . . .

To cite myself of a page or two back, people don't seem to notice that they're broadcasting a male- or female-centric view, and double for the inexperience of others' viewpoints of a high-schooler. You had to go and tell the reader that the diarist was male probably by bludgeoning the point home with the dramatic final reveal, violating the 'show, don't tell' axiom of writing and the 'diary doesn't talk back to the diarist' convention and contradicting the female-centric viewpoint your writing would organically show (remember 'show, don't tell'). Nowadays you'd probably do a cleaner and less in-your-face job of writing the final reveal, but would still have to stifle the tendency to write as though all unknowns are female unless assumed otherwise.

[Serpentine]

Mmm... You might be right, and it's been a long time since I read it (doing a search now to see if I have it here), but... I don't believe I went for a "big reveal". It just didn't occur to me that I should specify the character's sex. In any case, the teacher didn't deduct marks because I made a clumsy "in-your-face" reveal, but because I didn't specify at the start and so she read through with "female" in mind and found the way she read it to be "wrong" at the end.
Don't get me wrong, although it's one of the few pieces I did that I remember being proud of, I don't think I'd ever say it was good, and I don't blame her at all for reading it from a feminine viewpoint. But I don't think that particular criticism was valid nor fair.

[The Anarresti]

Usually, assuming a particular viewpoint is just a matter of personal interpretation. So, yeah, I doubt that that's really fair.
It'd be interesting to write from an androgynous viewpoint...

[golentan]

Sorry, that report got it wrong. There's been no vote or anything like that yet. They're working on it, though. It'll just take awhile for a repeal to get through the legal system, and there have to be several votes and a lot of support for it. I think the article you saw was just referencing a remark by the Speaker of the House saying it was a very real posibility, and there were enough votes for it to pass... whenever it actually gets voted on.



Now that we've cleared that up (unless the Yahoo article I checked was mistaken), lets move away from politics...

Not to delve too deeply in to politics, but I heard on the radio that a measure went through late last night to approve ending it pending the completion of a Pentagon study and support from the commanders.