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    Just for some differences: Giant Vermin and Poison. As far as summoning spells for massive tanks go, it's tough to beat a 4th level spell for a colossal monstrous scorpion. As far as high saving throws go, the DC for Poison scales off of caster level instead of the spell level, making it the equivalent of a 9th level spell for you.

    Just a different take on things ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisti View Post
    Am I seriously in before Celerity?

    Because Celerity. Celerity is very cheesy. It will let you win many battles if your GM will allow it.
    Honestly, I didn't even consider it, because I can't think of a DM that would allow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andras View Post
    Honestly, I didn't even consider it, because I can't think of a DM that would allow it.
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    My DM. at least I think he would. That would kind of require me to be able to find the thing. He also has never expressly forbid any spells when he asked me to make a wizard Cohort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andras View Post
    Honestly, I didn't even consider it, because I can't think of a DM that would allow it.
    My DMs have all allowed celerity, for what it's worth.

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    Must have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi View Post
    That would kind of require me to be able to find the thing.
    Do you mean in-game, or in the books? If it's the latter, the Celerity line is in PHB2.

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    Contingency (because to survive is good)
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    Heal is a 6th level Adept spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobold-Bard View Post
    Heal is a 6th level Adept spell.
    If that were true, it would be nothing special, since Heal is a 6th-level Cleric spell.

    However, Heal is a 5th-level Adept spell, which is indeed noteworthy.
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    Hunter's Eye [2nd lv Ranger/PHB II] is pretty decent if you want some extra Sneak Attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draz74 View Post
    If that were true, it would be nothing special, since Heal is a 6th-level Cleric spell.

    However, Heal is a 5th-level Adept spell, which is indeed noteworthy.
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    Streamers is a spell from Shining South - widely regarded as the most powerful damaging Evocation in the game. It's a ranged touch attack, can target multiple opponents or focus on one, and continues attacking foes without any direction from you for rounds/level if they take any action at all. Each ribbon deals 5d10 per hit, and the spell even uses your BAB, therefore getting iteratives.

    The spell is on both the cleric and wiz/sor lists (5th level.)
    If you read the spell, it says nothing about getting extra iteratives just because it uses your BAB. It states it has a readied touch attack (not readied full round attack). It CAN however, strike multiple times since it states ANY action, including move, swift, immidiate, or free in addition to standard actions. Sadly your enemies need only get hit once attacking it's AC 20 and hit to kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draz74 View Post
    If that were true, it would be nothing special, since Heal is a 6th-level Cleric spell.

    However, Heal is a 5th-level Adept spell, which is indeed noteworthy.
    IIRC, the healer class(miniature's handbook) also has a few healing based spells at lower than usual levels. Worth considering.

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    If you want to get sneak attack back I believe Nightstalker's Transformation (Sor/Wiz 5) would work. Just use it after you're out of the other fun spells.

    Also ennervation (4), Draconic Polymorph (5, assuming your dm hasn't houseruled/banned Polymorph), and Animate Dead (3?). What you really need at that point is a spell named "Call (not summon) Learnean Pyrohydra," but I think you'll have to research it or hunt the buggers the old-fashined way.

    Also: solid fog/freezing fog
    Glitterdust (2) and nerveskitter (1) for low level spells.

    Edit: Regarding streamers, stremer destructibility is why it's best to target one target with multiple streamers, preferably one with low melee damage and without iterative attacks (i.e. arcane spellcaster).
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