Test of Spite [3.5]

[Olo Demonsbane]

All right, that sounds good...can I have links to your characters and their exhibition fights? I'd like to see them and their tactics so that I can start the planning.

Also, Phoenix? No Cerembrancers, please. I can DM for anything lower than a powerful Tier 1, but....

And 9mm...if you would prefer to use one of your other characters, I'm sure I could scrounge up an earlier build for an exhibition.

[Amphetryon]

Based on most of your ToS entries, Olo, I think I'd be outgunned if I signed up.

[9mm]

Based on most of your ToS entries, Olo, I think I'd be outgunned if I signed up.

oh he's not that hard... you just need to trick him into killing himself.

All right, that sounds good...can I have links to your characters and their exhibition fights? I'd like to see them and their tactics so that I can start the planning.

Also, Phoenix? No Cerembrancers, please. I can DM for anything lower than a powerful Tier 1, but....

And 9mm...if you would prefer to use one of your other characters, I'm sure I could scrounge up an earlier build for an exhibition.

finals is nearly over so if your up to fights I'm down with that, but Yojimbo has been in the waiting room for a full fledged dungeon run since the first thread.

[PhoenixRivers]

All right, that sounds good...can I have links to your characters and their exhibition fights? I'd like to see them and their tactics so that I can start the planning.

Also, Phoenix? No Cerembrancers, please. I can DM for anything lower than a powerful Tier 1, but....

And 9mm...if you would prefer to use one of your other characters, I'm sure I could scrounge up an earlier build for an exhibition.

My Cerebremancer would probably be the most reasonable "high end" character, as I can't nova in actual games.

I'll design something special for it. If I can get an idea for what tier to build to, I'll whip something up and get it exhibitioned.

[Olo Demonsbane]

My Cerebremancer would probably be the most reasonable "high end" character, as I can't nova in actual games.

I'll design something special for it. If I can get an idea for what tier to build to, I'll whip something up and get it exhibitioned.

Well, 9mm is the first one in, and his is a decent ToS Tier 3. So ToS Tier 2 or lower please.

I'll contribute one of my random other characters to an exhibition, just let me know when you're ready.

[Aharon]

Sorry to chime in again, but I got feedback from the guy who submitted the build with racial hit dice, and he's still interested in playing, so a definitive ruling would be nice.

[PhoenixRivers]

Sorry to chime in again, but I got feedback from the guy who submitted the build with racial hit dice, and he's still interested in playing, so a definitive ruling would be nice.

Talked to Doc Roc via messenger:

4:14:47 AM PhoenixRivers: what's the ToS ruling on RHD? Allow or no?
4:15:33 AM Doc Roc: prefer ban.

[Doc Roc]

Talked to Doc Roc via messenger:

Contingent on purpose. If it's not something like a sharn, we can have a conversation

[PhoenixRivers]

Contingent on purpose. If it's not something like a sharn, we can have a conversation

Phaerimm? lol.

[Aharon]

@Doc Roc
No, it's nothing like that. I guess it's best if I put things like that in a spoiler.

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Just in case Yitzi wishes it to remain unknown He intends to play an ogre. As the race offers nothing but a STR and CON Boost, I think it should be ok'd. But my experience with martial builds is pretty minimal, so I may underestimate what he can do.

[Il_Vec]

I gave the thread a good read and tought it would be really awesome to be part of something like this, but I think if I build one char to play this he would be like, Tier 5, 4 at tops...
Still, if I want to, how do I do it? Just sign up the form and wait for an answer?

[Aharon]

Yep, that's how it works. Be aware though that checking the character sheets sometimes takes very long, and there are still some unchecked sheets from last september.

You can also ask people if they want an exhibition fight, those are made with unchecked characters.

It's no problem to submit a character who fits in a lower tier, many people have builds across the whole power spectrum and will fight a Tier 4/5 build.

[PhoenixRivers]

Hey Olo, that proposed character is ready! :D

EDIT: Well, mostly, he's gotta get a few items.

[Doc Roc]

I gave the thread a good read and tought it would be really awesome to be part of something like this, but I think if I build one char to play this he would be like, Tier 5, 4 at tops...
Still, if I want to, how do I do it? Just sign up the form and wait for an answer?

Hopefully, over summer, sheet checking will pick up considerably, but for now, what Aharon said holds. Exhibition matches are really pretty bread-and-butter, and we do watch for mistakes made in matches in progress irregardless of their standing as qualifiers or exhibitions. As a result, I think you'll be fine. Tier 4 characters are a lot of fun, and can produce some of the most interesting matches. I think every regular has at least one in the 3 or 4 range.

Welcome aboard!

@Doc Roc
No, it's nothing like that. I guess it's best if I put things like that in a spoiler.

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Just in case Yitzi wishes it to remain unknown He intends to play an ogre. As the race offers nothing but a STR and CON Boost, I think it should be ok'd. But my experience with martial builds is pretty minimal, so I may underestimate what he can do.

That's a fine thing.

[Thrantar]

Hello. I'm working on my first build for entry and have a question for the DMs.

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Q: According to the rules, all 3.5 books are allowed. Does this included official web material? If so, what is your stance on the Substitute Powers ACF for ardents? Specifically, I'm trying to get dimension door.

[Olo Demonsbane]

Hey Olo, that proposed character is ready! :D

EDIT: Well, mostly, he's gotta get a few items.

Well, Mythweavers is being stupid right now and won't let me access their database...maybe you could fight someone else in the meantime?

EDIT: Nevermind, fixed.

[PhoenixRivers]

Hey, I'm down for that, though I designed him more as a team player than a one man-show.

[Olo Demonsbane]

Hey, I'm down for that, though I designed him more as a team player than a one man-show.

He still needs to win a qualification before he can go on to the dungeon.

Here's a match.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

What source allows a Psicrystal to manifest powers in it's own right? I'm working on re-working Shinji Ikari, and he is going to be much nastier than previously.

Quicken Power, Twin Power, and Schism are still on the menu, right?

[Olo Demonsbane]

What source allows a Psicrystal to manifest powers in it's own right? I'm working on re-working Shinji Ikari, and he is going to be much nastier than previously.

Quicken Power, Twin Power, and Schism are still on the menu, right?

Twin Power is not, but the other two are.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Twin Power is not, but the other two are.

[Mr.Burns]*steeples his fingers* Eeeexcellent... [/Mr.Burns]

Ya know, if ya wanted to nerf Metamagics, give them a mechanic similar to expending a Psionic Focus to use any given metamagic feat. That ought to stop most of the stacking abuses of metamagics...

[Doc Roc]

We really haven't had a lot of issues with stuff other than persist. Twin's been problematic on some SoDs, but not hugely so.

[Olo Demonsbane]

Twin's mainly problematic on stuff that gives extra actions. Otherwise, it's a +4 Metamagic...

[ShneekeyTheLost]

We really haven't had a lot of issues with stuff other than persist. Twin's been problematic on some SoDs, but not hugely so.

I have a specific tactic I want to try. A rather different approach to a Nova...

Spoilered for GM's to validate my tactic:

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Basically, round one is going to be spamming Psionic Dispel as many times as possible to drop opponent buffs. Most of the ToS opponents are not naturally immune to mind-affecting, although many have some sort of buff which gives them that immunity.

With Quicken Power and Schism, I'll have 3x Dispels at my disposal, with the possibility of more if I can figure out how to get my psicrystal to chime in. With a Bead of Karma, and Overchannel, that'll give me enough effective manifester level to be able to have my schism hit them with the maximum modifier on my dispel check.

Twin Power would have been more effective than Quicken, because I would have been able to manifest Hustle to get my Psionic Focus back, since Quicken eats up my swift action. But I can deal with Quicken.

Hopefully, with three or four dispels, I should be able to negate whatever means they have of being immune to mind-affecting, which is really Shinji's primary form of attack.

[Olo Demonsbane]

Anyone want a fight with my ToS Tier 2-ish minionmancer? Just made a few minutes ago...

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Anyone want a fight with my ToS Tier 2-ish minionmancer? Just made a few minutes ago...

If I could get Myth-Weavers back online and update Shinji for approval, I might be able to handle a minionmancer... be an interesting test of his new abilities, anyways...

[PhoenixRivers]

If I could get Myth-Weavers back online and update Shinji for approval, I might be able to handle a minionmancer... be an interesting test of his new abilities, anyways...

Note: Most minionmancer builds prefer to have summons allowed in buff rounds. I'm trying mine without summons in buffs.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Note: Most minionmancer builds prefer to have summons allowed in buff rounds. I'm trying mine without summons in buffs.

By all means, have summons in buff rounds. The more the merrier, I always say...

[Olo Demonsbane]

Note: Most minionmancer builds prefer to have summons allowed in buff rounds. I'm trying mine without summons in buffs.

I'm not using my minionmancer in the fight with you...I'm using an old Eldritch Theurge.

@Shneeky: Try closing the window and reloading it. It worked for me...

[PhoenixRivers]

By all means, have summons in buff rounds. The more the merrier, I always say...

That can be a dangerous tactic to have. For example, my minionmancer deals primarily in incorporeal undead. I love when floors attack.