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    No-Face King

    "A thousand faces may not sate Them, but may keep Them distracted for a while. So I pray." – Mal, No-Face King.

    It is no great secret that the Fair Folk sometimes steal a humanoid for the sake of entertainment or labour. Those poor souls so taken often have little hope of returning, for when the fae tire of their new toy, they will either dispose or simply forget them.

    Changelings have more hope than others at escape. Their shapeshifting abilities, already a valuable asset in a normal life can literally save them from the whims of their new ‘benefactors’. The ability to change appearance and persona keeps them entertaining for much longer, giving them the chance to plan an escape. The strange magics of their prison aid them in this endeavour, reacting to their dreams and hopes of freedom. And one by one, the changeling strips forms and personalities from themselves, severing them and creating new, false lives. With these echoes distracting their erstwhile patron, the changeling can make good his escape.

    Yet these escapees are never the same upon their return. They are denied a part of themselves, a vast gulf of personalities and forms forever gone, a void left in their place, a void that even the bittersweet magic of Faerie cannot ever truly fill.

    HD: d6

    Requirements
    Race: Changeling*
    Alignment: Any nonlawful.
    Skills: Bluff or Intimidate 9 ranks, Disguise 9 ranks, Knowledge (arcana) or Knowledge (the planes) 4 ranks, Spellcraft 9 ranks.
    Feats: Persona Immersion**
    Invocations: Must know the charm and either beguiling influence or entropic warding invocations.
    Special: Must have been abducted my a fey creature into Faerie and escaped.
    *Changelings are described on page 12 of the Eberron Campaign Setting and page 41 of Races of Eberron.
    **Persona Immersion is described on page 110 of Races of Eberron.


    Class Skills: Bluff (Cha), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Disguise (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge [arcana] (Int), Knowledge [the planes] (Int), Perform (Cha), Profession (Wis), Sense Motive (Wis), Spellcraft (Int), Survival (Wis) and Use Magic Device (Cha).
    Skill points per level: 4 + Intelligence modifier, minimum 1.

    Level Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special Invocations
    1st
    +0
    +0
    +0
    +2
    Arcadian blast +1d6, Discarded Faces, Hollow-Soul Pact -
    2nd
    +1
    +0
    +0
    +3
    Hollow-Soul Lore +1 of existing invoking class
    3rd
    +2
    +1
    +1
    +3
    Arcadian blast +2d6 +1 of existing invoking class
    4th
    +3
    +1
    +1
    +4
    Desperate Immersion +1 of existing invoking class
    5th
    +3
    +1
    +1
    +4
    Arcadian blast +3d6 +1 of existing invoking class
    6th
    +4
    +2
    +2
    +5
    Hollow-Soul Presence +1 of existing invoking class
    7th
    +5
    +2
    +2
    +5
    Arcadian blast +4d6 +1 of existing invoking class
    8th
    +6
    +2
    +2
    +6
    Hungering Immersion +1 of existing invoking class
    9th
    +6
    +3
    +3
    +6
    Arcadian blast +5d6 +1 of existing invoking class
    10th
    +7
    +3
    +3
    +7
    Hollow-Soul Claimed +1 of existing invoking class

    Weapon and Armour Proficiencies: The No-Face King gains proficiency with the longsword and the rapier but gain now new proficiency with armour or shields.

    Invocations: At each level other than 1st, the No-Face King gains new invocations known and an increase in caster level as if they had also gained a level in an invocation-using class to which they belonged before adding the prestige class level. You do not, however, gain any other benefits a character of that class would have gained (including eldritch blast progression, if any). If the character had more than one invocation-using class before becoming a No-Face King, they must decide to which class to add each level for the purpose of determining caster level and invocations known.

    Arcadian Blast (Sp): At first level and every odd level thereafter, the No-Face King’s eldritch blast damage increases by 1d6. In addition, they gain knowledge of the following eldritch essence invocation:

    Arcadian Blast
    Lesser; 4th; Eldritch Essence
    You change your eldritch blast into an Arcadian blast. An Arcadian blast draws on the twisted energies of Faerie. An Arcadian blast draws on the hungering energies of Arcadia to deal untyped damage, and allows you to add your Charisma modifier to the attack and damage rolls made as part of the blast.

    Discarded Faces (Ex): At first level, the No-Face King returns with much of their shapeshifting potential gone, replaced with some of the uncanny energies of Faerie. Upon gaining this class feature, the No-Face King must select a number of alternate shapes for their racial minor shape change ability equal to 3 + Cha modifier. These shapes must be exceedingly precise ('Brog the half-orc bouncer of the local inn', not 'half-orc male', for example) and are now the only shapes the No-Face king can assume using minor shape change. However, these shapes become far more intense and realistic than normal. A No-Face King using minor shape change gains the racial subtypes of their assumed form, and true seeing and similar effects can no longer pierce the disguise. However, at 2nd level and each even level thereafter, the No-Face King permanently loses access to one of these shapes and all benefits associated with it, other than those gained from this class. If they now no longer qualify for feats or prestige classes they currently possess that they gained through the Desperate Immersion and Hungering Immersion class features (see below) they lose all benefits of the feat(s) and all features of the class other than base attack bonus and base save bonuses.

    Hollow-Soul Pact (Su): At first level, the No-Face King finds the metaphysical void created by their discarded faces replaced with a tie to Faerie, one of a distinctly unpleasant nature that makes itself known when they call upon the energies of Faerie. The No-Face King gains negative energy resistance 5. In addition, each No-Face King must select one of the following pacts, gaining its listed benefit.

    Chokegrowth Spring: You are bound to the negative side of Spring, that of rampant, excessive growth without regard to the consequences. When you successfully hit with an Arcadian blast, you gain fast healing equal to half your class level, rounded down, for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier.

    Rageheat Summer: You are bound to the negative aspects of Summer, to endless days of unceasing heat, of tempers frayed and unleashed. When you successfully hit with an Arcadian blast, you gain a morale bonus to attack and damage rolls equal to half your class level, rounded down, for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier.

    Dustharvest Autumn: You are bound to the negative side of Autumn, the slow but inevitable encroachment of lack and famine. When you successfully hit with an Arcadian blast, the struck opponent takes a penalty to AC and Fortitude saving throws equal to half your class level, rounded down, for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier.

    Sorrowchill Winter: You are bound to the negative aspects of Winter, to days engulfed in night and to the slow death of the year. When you successfully hit with an Arcadian blast, the struck opponent takes vile damage equal to half your class level, rounded down, each round for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier.

    Hollow-Soul Lore (Sp): At 2nd level, the Arcadian voices left in the echoing void of the No-Face King's soul whisper eldritch secrets to their host, teaching them a new invocation tied to their Hollow-Soul pact.

    Chokegrowth Lifetheft
    Lesser; 4th
    You create a mass of parasitic plant growth that drains the life force of others to bolster your own. This invocation functions as entangle, except that you can move the area of effect up to your land speed as a move action. In addition, the DC to escape the effect is increased by an amount equal to your Charisma modifier and any creature that ends its turn within the area of chokegrowth lifetheft are affected as though by a healing sting spell cast by you.

    Rageheat Outburst
    Lesser; 4th
    You enter a fury so pure that it reduces you to a more primal state. This invocation functions as bite of the werewolf. In addition, whilst under the effects of rageheat outburst, you may use your Cha modifier in place of your Strength modifier for melee attack and damage rolls.

    Dustharvest Faminecurse
    Lesser; 4th
    With a spiteful utterance, you lay the weight of famine and thirst upon a creature. This invocation functions as dehydrate, except that it deals Constitution damage equal to 1d4 + your Charisma modifier. In addition, regardless of whether the target succeeds on their Fortitude save, they become fatigued.

    Sorrowchill Obfuscation
    Lesser; 4th
    You shroud yourself in the pitch blackness of the northern winter night. This invocation functions as armour of darkness, save that it lasts for 24 hours once cast.

    Desperate Immersion (Ex): At 4th level, the No-Face King desperately immerses himself in what forms he has left, even as the void in his soul seems to grow. The No-Face King's minor shape change is now an extraordinary ability. Furthermore, he gains the racial ability score bonuses of any currently adopted shape. In addition, he now always possess the racial subtypes of all his forms for the purposes of activating magic items and meeting the prerequisites of feats, but not prestige classes. Furthermore, his resistance to negative energy increases to 10.

    Hollow-Soul Presence (Su): At 6th level, the No-Face King's inner emptiness begins to leak out beyond the limits of his body. The No-Face King's negative energy resistance increases to 15, and bestows this trait upon any ally within 30ft. In addition, they receive another benefit depending on their Hollow-Soul Pact.

    Chokegrowth Spring: You and each ally within 30ft of you gain an unholy bonus to Reflex saves equal to your Charisma modifier. Any ally within 30ft of you at the start of their turn gains temporary hp equal to your class level or Charisma modifier, whichever is higher.

    Rageheat Summer: You and each ally within 30ft gain an unholy bonus to Fortitude saves equal to your Charisma modifier. Any foe that begins their turn within 30ft of you takes fire damage equal to class level or Charisma modifier, whichever is higher.

    Dustharvest Autumn: You and each ally within 30ft gain an unholy bonus to Will saves equal to your Charisma modifier. Any foe that begins their turn within 30ft of you takes 1d6 points of non-lethal damage per class level.

    Sorrowchill Winter: You and each ally within 30ft gain an unholy bonus on saves against death, necromancy and negative energy effects equal to your Charisma modifier. Any foe that begins their turn within 30ft of you must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + class level + Charisma modifier) or take 1d2 points of Constitution damage.

    Hungering Immersion (Ex): At 8th level the No-Face King's obsession with his remaining shapes deepens yet further. At the start of each day, he gains a +2 racial bonus to one ability score that any one of his shapes possess a racial ability score bonus to, regardless of the shape he takes. In addition, he now always possesses the racial subtypes of his other shapes for all purposes, including qualifying for prestige classes.

    Hollow-Soul Claimed (Ex): At 10th level, the void in the No-Face King's soul has grown too great, and he is but one step away from becoming the empty creatures that took him in the first place. His type changes to fey, gaining all traits of that type. He also loses the ability to use minor shape change, though he retains his current number of chosen alternate shapes and all benefits granted thereby - he simply cannot adopt those shapes.

    However, his form remains mercurial, and he gains some of the control over one's form that the great fey lords do. At the start of each day, the No-Face King gains a number of Mien Points equal to their Charisma modifier to purchase Seemings and Kiths from the lists below. The selected Seemings and Kiths last for 24 hours.

    Each day, the No-Face King must buy at least one Seeming with his Mien Points. Kiths are associated with given Seemings, and if the No-Face King purchases any Kiths with his Mien Points for the day, he must include a Kith associated with any Seemings he has chosen for the day.

    A No-Face King is not required to spend all his Mien Points for the day, but all Mien Points to be assigned for the day must be done so at once - the character cannot spend most of her Mien Points in the morning and spend the rest at some later point in the day.

    Seemings
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    Beast
    Your appearance is more primal and bestial, mirroring your manifestation of a powerful animal magnetism.
    Benefit: You double the bonus your Charisma modifier applies to your Handle Animal skill. You gain an inherent bonus equal to half your class level on all other Charisma-based skill checks and Charisma checks.
    Penalty: You take a -5 inherent penalty to any Intelligence-based skill checks you attempt untrained and to all Intelligence check tied to higher reasoning.
    Mien Post Cost: 2

    Darkling
    Your appearance mirrors the fey denizens of dark and shadowy places, the taint of such places seeping deep into the tattered remnants of your soul.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus equal to half your class level on Bluff, Disguise, Hide, Move Silently and Sense Motive checks.
    Penalty: Whilst standing in sunlight, reduce the save DCs of your invocations, spells and other spell-like abilities by 2.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Elemental
    You take on elemental aspects, your body becoming as hardy and unyielding as the bones of the world even as a more alien worldview asserts itself, distancing you from mortals.
    Benefit: You use your Charisma modifier rather than your Constitution modifier for determining bonus hit points per hit die whilst you possess this Seeming.
    Penalty: You take a -5 inherent penalty on all Diplomacy, Perform and Sense Motive checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Fairest
    Your visage becomes stunning - your beauty guaranteed to fill all with love and envy... or terrified awe at the sight of your majesty.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus equal to half your class level on all Bluff, Diplomacy and Intimidate checks.
    Penalty: You must fail a Will save (DC 10 + half your character level + your Charisma modifier) in order to treat creatures as you desire for 1 hour/2 class levels. Success means you must act overbearing, proud, cruel and utterly self-centred for that duration instead.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Ogre
    The shape of the hulking brute is yours to enjoy, with all the strength that it imparts. Your new body imposes a shape on your mind too, as you become more guillible, weak-willed and impulsive.
    Benefit: You may use your Charisma modifier in place of your Strength modifier for all purposes whilst you possess this Seeming.
    Penalty: You take a -5 inherent penalty on Sense Motive checks and a -2 inherent penalty on Will saves against effects that would force you to take a specified action or that would manipulate your emotional state.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Wizened
    You reduce in some way, whether it be height, weight, wisdom or warmth. Your new shape is infused with agility and spite.
    Benefit: You may use your Charisma modifier in place of your Dexterity modifier for all purposes whilst you possess this Seeming.
    Penalty: You take a -5 inherent penalty on all Charisma-based skill checks and Charisma checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 2


    Kiths
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    Broadback
    You resemble some animal known for stubbornness or endurance: camel, elephant, mule, whatever.
    Benefit: You gain a bonus equal to half your class level on all Constitution-based skill checks and Constitution checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Cleareyes
    One sense of yours is exemplary, like a raptor's eyesight.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus to Spot or Listen checks equal to your class level. Alternatively, you gain scent with double the normal range.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Coldscale
    Your body and heart are filled with cold blood, like any of the myriad reptiles or amphibians.
    Benefit: You gain a bonus equal to half your class level on all Will saves made against emotion-based effects and all Fortitude saves made against poison.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Hunterheart
    The predator's mind and body are yours, and nature's panoply adorns your body.
    Benefit: You gain Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat, and can deal slashing or bludgeoning damage with your unarmed strikes as you wish. In addition, your unarmed strikes deal damage as though you were one size category larger.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Runnerswift
    You are fleet of foot, swift as beasts such as the hare, the antelope and the cheetah.
    Benefit: Your base land speed increases by 15ft plus 5ft per 3 class levels, to a maximum of 60ft bonus total.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Skitterskulk
    Anything skitters and crawls could be what you resemble: insects, rats, spiders.
    Benefit: You gain a dodge bonus to AC equal half your class level in any round in which you do not make an attack action.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Steepscrambler
    You climb like you were born to it, your shape echoing the monkey, the squirrel, the gecko or similar beasts.
    Benefit: You gain a climb speed equal to your base land speed, and the corresponding +8 racial bonus on Climb checks. You do not increase Climb check DCs for slippery surfaces.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Swimmerskin
    Your visage mirrors an aquatic or amphibious creature of some sort.
    Benefit: You gain a swim speed equal to your base land speed, and the corresponding +8 racial bonus to Swim checks. You can hold your breath for one minute per point of Constitution modifier.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Venombite
    You are venomous. Quite literally.
    Benefit: You gain a bite attack that deal damage appropriate for your size that can only be used in a grapple. Any target you bite must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + class level + Charisma modifier) or take 1d4 Constitution damage.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Windwing
    You are feathered here and there, your features more avian.
    Benefit: You gain a fly speed equal to your land speed with good manoeuvrability.
    Mien Point Cost: 2


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    Antiquarian
    The darkness that fills you is that contained within forbidden tomes and eldritch treatises. Their knowledge is yours.
    Benefit: You may use Knowledge skills untrained. You gain an inherent bonus to trained Knowledge checks equal to half your class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Fiendtongue
    Your body and soul are well-versed in brokering pacts and oaths that demand a high price from the other party.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus on Bluff checks equal to half your class level. When you make a deal with someone, you can use geas on them as an extraordinary ability.

    Gravewight
    The darkness of the grave is yours.
    Benefit: You can always see incorporeal undead, regardless of any other effects.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Leechfinger
    One are now one of the fey that steals life from others, grain by grain, drop by drop.
    Benefit: You gain a touch attack that deals 1d6 + Charisma modifier negative energy. When you use this touch attack, you gain temporary hit points equal to the damage you do that last for 1 hour/class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Tunnelgrub
    The dark things that slither and squirm through the dark places of the world count you among their number.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus on Escape Artist checks equal to half your class level. You also gain a 15ft burrow speed that does not leave a usable tunnel behind.
    Mien Point Cost: 1


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    Airtouched
    You are as the wind, cloud or sky.
    Benefit: You gain a 5ft increase to your land speed for every 2 points of Charisma modifier you have. In addition, you add your Charisma modifier to your initiative checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Earthbones
    Your body mirrors the earth, and is endowed with its enduring strength.
    Benefit: You may use your Charisma instead of Strength for all non-combat Strength checks and Strength-based skill checks you make whilst you have this Kith.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Fireheart
    Your heart burns with passions, and your body responds in kind.
    Benefit: You gain a melee touch attack that deals 1d6 + Charisma modifier fire damage. In addition, anyone that targets you in melee with a hand-held or natural weapon takes an equal amount of damage.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Levinquick
    You strike as hard and fast as a thunderbolt.
    Benefit: You gain the benefits of the Powerful Charge feat, though all extra damage you deal with it is considered electricity damage. In addition, you gain electricity resistance equal to your twice your class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Snowskin
    You come to embody cold, whether it is as delicate as a snowflake or as brutal as a glacier.
    Benefit: You add 1d6 cold damage to all melee attack you make. In addition, you gain an inherent bonus equal to half your class level on Bluff or Intimidate checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Waterborn
    Like the nymph or the volodnoi, you are tied to water now.
    Benefit: You can breath water as easily as air. You also gain a 30ft swim speed and the corresponding +8 racial bonus on Swim checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Woodblood
    The verdant power of the growing world is yours as you come closer to the dryad in your nature.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus to Hide and Survival checks made in natural aboveground environment equal to half your class level. In addition, you gain the nature's stride ability, as per the druid class feature.


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    Bright One
    Your beauty is illuminated from within.
    Benefit: You constantly radiate bright light out to 60ft. In addition, any creature with a Charisma score equal to or lower than yours takes a -2 penalty on attack rolls made against you, so bright is your visage.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Dancer
    Your beauty lies in motion and fluidity, both becoming an exquisite art when used by you.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus to Perform (dance) checks equal to half your class level. In addition, you gain a +2 dodge bonus to AC.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Draconic
    You are magnificent and awe-inspiring in a somewhat bestial manner. The dragon or the fiend makes its mark upon your features.
    Benefit: You gain Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. Once per encounter, you may re-roll a failed attack roll for an unarmed strike.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Flowering
    You echo the beauty of the petal, the young bloom and the elegance of all flowers, though your thorns may well be all too obvious.
    Benefit: You gain an insight bonus on Bluff and Diplomacy checks equal to half your class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Muse
    Your very appearance inspires the passions and minds of artists.
    Benefit: 1/day, you may choose to inspire a given humanoid. For one day, that humanoid gains a bonus to Craft and Perform checks made to glorify you equal to your character level.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Shadowsoul
    Your beauty is a dark and terrible thing. You inspire fear, not love or lust or envy.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus on Hide and Intimidate checks equal to half your class level.
    Mein Point Cost: 1


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    Cyclopean
    One of your senses is maimed, but your others now make up the loss.
    Benefit: You gain a flaw that applies a penalty to Spot or Listen checks. You do not gain a bonus feat for this flaw, but do gain an inherent bonus equal to your class level in the skill you don't choose the flaw for, as well as gaining scent.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Farwalker
    Like the yeti and its more temperate cousins, you remain an elusive brute.
    Benefit: You gain an inherent bonus on Hide and Survival checks equal to half your class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Gargantuan
    Fee fi fo fum - you're gigantic.
    Benefit: You grow one size category whilst maintaining this Kith, will all the bonuses and penalties usual for doing so.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Gristlegrinder
    Many fey creatures eat humanoid flesh. You might not be among their number, but the temptation is very great, now that your mouth is designed to do nothing but swallow forbidden food...
    Benefit: You gain a bite attack that deals damage normal for that of a creature one size category larger than you.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Stonebones
    You're tough. Really tough. Rock hard, even.
    Benefit: You gain DR/- equal to half your class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Water-Dweller
    You're the hungry troll under the bridge, the sea hag hankering for a morsel.
    Benefit: You can hold your breath for a number of minutes equal to your Charisma modifier x your class level x 10.
    Mien Point Cost: 1


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    Artist
    Craftsmanship flows through you, blood and bone.
    Benefit: You gain a bonus to Crafting checks equal to your class level.
    Mien Point Cost: 1

    Oracle
    The future is yours to see.
    Benefit: You may use augury once per hour.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Smith
    There is no item that you cannot improve... for a short period.
    Benefit: With 30 minutes work on a magic item made mostly of metal that provides a numerical bonus and a Craft check with a DC equal to the item's caster level, you can increase all the item's numerical bonuses by 1 for one day.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Soldier
    You are utterly familiar with weapons of all kinds.
    Benefit: You gain Weapon Focus and Greater Weapon Focus for the longsword as bonus feats. In addition, any weapon you pick up immediately gains the aptitude weapon quality, retaining it until the weapon leaves your possession.
    Mien Point Cost: 2


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    Smoke-kin
    You are ephemeral and flighty, dark and hard to grasp.
    Seemings: Darkling and Elemental
    Benefit: You gain a 2% miss chance per class level, to a maximum of 30%
    Mien Point Cost: 3

    Death Jester
    Killing is all one big party to you.
    Seemings: Darkling or Wizened
    Benefit: During a full-attack, you can take a 5ft step between each attack you make.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Errant
    You are blessed the prowess of a true hero... or villain.
    Seemings: Fairest or Ogre
    Benefit: All melee attacks made with your lowest base attack bonus are resolved as touch attacks.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Fair Folk
    Sidhe, leShay, leshy... whatever it is you've made yourself like, your grace is evident to all.
    Seemings: Darkling, Fairest or Wizened.
    Benefit: You gain a +2 inherent bonus to all Dexterity and Charisma based checks and skill checks.
    Mien Point Cost: 2

    Runeworker
    You can amplify your magic by taking the time to draw forth the power of the runes.
    Seemings: Elemental, Ogre or Wizened.
    Benefits: You increase the save DC of any invocation you cast in a round where you do not move by 2.
    Mien Point Cost: 1
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    As much as I really like this class, both thematically and mechanically, it strikes me as being very, very powerful. But seeing as how you have to start as a warlock with a changeling feat...might be justifiable.
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    Default Re: The No-Face King [3.5 PrC]

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Curious View Post
    As much as I really like this class, both thematically and mechanically, it strikes me as being very, very powerful.
    How so/what specifically?

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    Default Re: The No-Face King [3.5 PrC]

    When I saw this, I thought it was a PrC to become No-Face.

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    ...oh, wait. I misread the "+1 Invocation class". I thought it stacked for blast damage. It does not.

    I'll let other critique balance then...ignore me.
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    Default Re: The No-Face King [3.5 PrC]

    I have sadly never seen Spirited Away. But I guess with some select choice of fey parts for Hollow-Soul Claimed you could recreate the linked character if you so wished.

    @^: Ah, excellent.
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    When I saw this, I thought it was a PrC to become No-Face.
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    Don't you basically need a CHA of 24 before entering this PrC? Otherwise you run out of shapes and lose many benefits of this PrC.
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    You are restricted to 3 + Cha mod shapes at the 1st level of the PrC, then lose 5 over the course of its progression. By level 10, that's -2 + Cha mod shapes. As long as they have Cha 18 (+4 modifier) or higher, they get at least one shape. And by that point, their Cha should probably be higher than 18.

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    You are restricted to 3 + Cha mod shapes at the 1st level of the PrC, then lose 5 over the course of its progression. By level 10, that's -2 + Cha mod shapes. As long as they have Cha 18 (+4 modifier) or higher, they get at least one shape. And by that point, their Cha should probably be higher than 18.
    Do magical items affect this or is it straight base attribute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge View Post
    You are restricted to 3 + Cha mod shapes at the 1st level of the PrC, then lose 5 over the course of its progression. By level 10, that's -2 + Cha mod shapes. As long as they have Cha 18 (+4 modifier) or higher, they get at least one shape. And by that point, their Cha should probably be higher than 18.
    Ah, I had missed the "even" level part.

    Do subsequent CHA increases raise the number of shapes, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErrantX View Post
    Do magical items affect this or is it straight base attribute?
    Magic items do increase this, but nothing more temporary than that. Anything that can provide a consistent and long-term increase to the No-Face King's sense of self will allow they to reclaim more of what they lost from their inner void.

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    Ah, I had missed the "even" level part.

    Do subsequent CHA increases raise the number of shapes, then?
    As above, yes.

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    A bump because I have heavily reworked the capstone and want thoughts on it desperately.

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    It's confusing because there are several contradictions.

    Discarded Faces / However, at 2nd level and each even level thereafter, the No-Face King permanently loses access to one of these shapes and all benefits associated with it.

    So that would apply to these as well:

    Desperate Immersion / The No-Face King's minor shape change is now an extraordinary ability. Furthermore, he gains the racial ability score bonuses of any currently adopted shape. In addition, he now always possess the racial subtypes of all his forms for the purposes of activating magic items and meeting the prerequisites of feats, but not prestige classes

    Hungering Immersion / At the start of each day, he gains a +2 racial bonus to one ability score that any one of his shapes possess a racial ability score bonus to, regardless of the shape he takes.

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    So as he advances in levels he loses the ability to change shape and all abilities that are derived from it. Desperate Immersion and Hungering Immersion would be affected. I dunno. It seems weird to lose your class features as you progress through the class.

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    I like the new capstone. I would recommend eliminating the strange thing about gradually losing change shape (also the restriction to a specific number) - either you have change shape or you don't. Easier that way.

    Instead of the Desperate & Hungering abilities, why not replace them with the Seeming & Kith mechanics? Ditch the Immersions, completely drop change shape, and spread out the Seemings and Kiths across the levels of the prestige class. Might make it easier to understand and less complex.
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    This is just silly. This is like making a class with an ability that goes something. . "up is now down. . ." in how it ignores the 'physics' of the D&D world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chambers View Post
    It's confusing because there are several contradictions.

    Discarded Faces / However, at 2nd level and each even level thereafter, the No-Face King permanently loses access to one of these shapes and all benefits associated with it.

    So that would apply to these as well:

    Desperate Immersion / The No-Face King's minor shape change is now an extraordinary ability. Furthermore, he gains the racial ability score bonuses of any currently adopted shape. In addition, he now always possess the racial subtypes of all his forms for the purposes of activating magic items and meeting the prerequisites of feats, but not prestige classes

    Hungering Immersion / At the start of each day, he gains a +2 racial bonus to one ability score that any one of his shapes possess a racial ability score bonus to, regardless of the shape he takes.

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    So as he advances in levels he loses the ability to change shape and all abilities that are derived from it. Desperate Immersion and Hungering Immersion would be affected. I dunno. It seems weird to lose your class features as you progress through the class.
    This is entirely intentional. The magic of Fairy consumes more and more of what the No-Face King is, leaving eldritch power behind in an attempt to fill the gap.

    And yes, as you level up, when you lose a shape, you lose any benefit it provided you through Desperate Immersion and Hungering Immersion.


    I like the new capstone. I would recommend eliminating the strange thing about gradually losing change shape (also the restriction to a specific number) - either you have change shape or you don't. Easier that way.

    Instead of the Desperate & Hungering abilities, why not replace them with the Seeming & Kith mechanics? Ditch the Immersions, completely drop change shape, and spread out the Seemings and Kiths across the levels of the prestige class. Might make it easier to understand and less complex.
    Eh... I'm leery about that because the loss of minor change shape is one of the main points of the class - you use your other identities and personae as buffers against the power of Faerie to keep your true self intact.

    This is just silly. This is like making a class with an ability that goes something. . "up is now down. . ." in how it ignores the 'physics' of the D&D world.
    Big woop. They can hurt undead with it. I only went with this because there's no energy type to represent what I wanted. If it helps, fluffwise, think of it of as the all-consuming hunger of Faerie rather actual negative energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge View Post
    This is entirely intentional. The magic of Fairy consumes more and more of what the No-Face King is, leaving eldritch power behind in an attempt to fill the gap.

    And yes, as you level up, when you lose a shape, you lose any benefit it provided you through Desperate Immersion and Hungering Immersion.
    Hmmm. I like the idea and flavor of the class. It's really neat. But the mechanics are weird and confusing, and would deter me from playing the class.
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    Why not just have it be untyped damage and describe it as the "raw, draining hunger and emptiness of Faerie"? The X-but-not-X-in-any-way approach is probably what was the issue.

    That and Faerie is usually [in D&D anyway] linked with vibrant life [i know, it was originally the underworld but that's, for some reason, the impression people seem to have now]
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