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2006-06-22, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Batman Beyond vs. Spiderman
This is a pretty even matchup, I think. I think Spiderman is stronger than the batsuit's strength enhancements, but of course Terry has a whole slew of options there that Spidey doesn't (I know Spidey has an Iron Man suit now, but that hurts my head so much I don't even want to think about it).
Bonus round: what if it was Ultimate Spiderman vs. first season or so Terry? :P
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2006-06-22, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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The new Batman isn't much of a thinker, and the old one's main strength WAS thinking, hence all the "blah blah preparation blah blah" arguments.
Edit: I forgot to actually say who I thought the winner was... Spiderman, as Terry is all physical, which is similar to a lot of Spiderman's enemies.
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2006-06-22, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think that Spiderman would win. He has the sheer physical ability to overcome Terry's suit, although I do think that it'll be a close fight.
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2006-06-22, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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in a straight up fight batman losses
he wins with preperation
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2006-06-22, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2006-06-22, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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I gave the original Batman v. Spiderman to Batman, though I said I thought it was a tough matchup. Peter Parker is supposed to be a genius, so he's got the mental going for him as well as the physical. On the flip side, I'm not sure that Spiderman's supposed to be just all that strong. Terry's suit enhances his strength, and it allows him to actually fly rather than swinging slowly on a rope--or strand of silk--plus he can fire the rockets into Spiderman's face. He's also got a ton of gadgets to blind, entangle or otherwise thwart Spiderman. In the series Batman Beyond he also usually has Bruce on the radio to make suggestions. So I'm going to give it to Batman Beyond, on points. No knockouts here.
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2006-06-22, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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nah spiderman is strong enough to lift small cars over his head and lift one end of a bus up....much stronger than the enhanced Batman one, which just put Terry up to the same level Bruce got to naturall (evidenced by the Joker being able to stand his ground in a fistycuffs match) i'm going with spiderman
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2006-06-22, 09:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well the point is that Terry has the real Batman for the preparation. Barring any unforseen problems of communication, Batman prepares and Terry executes.
Batman wins, even if Terry deviates from the plan due to circumstances.
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2006-06-23, 12:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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ah but spiderman is the master of improve (aka winging it) and has proven very able to think on his feat.... so it boils down to the old question superior stratagy or superior adaptability...which wins out
like the old soviot vs American chess matches....
which i might add superior adapatability and innovation eventually won out. pt to spidy
wait which spidy are we doing?
classic
ultimate
wolverine stinger claw super spider?
iron (aka never let the town drunk dress you) spidy?
either way lets look as some points
*Flying: advantage to...no one. spidy's fought enough fliers on a daily basis (such as Volture) that he can counter it and use it agianst them with incredible ease.
*strength: spidy...especally the new totem pole spider man
*mobility and agility: spidy
*equipment: batman...or with the iron suite, tie
*stratagy: batman...dosn't even have to do it himself as he has an old guy to work on it while he focuses 100% on the fight
stealth: Spidy...he can be very sneaky when he needs to be and batman's stealth isn't gonna do much agianst spidy's 6th sense
therefore i give advantage to Spidy...but its a close one
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2006-06-23, 12:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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With preperation Spider man would still win. Remember, the kid's a genius....Spider-man is known for losing, and Peter Parker is known for getting some rest and figuring out how to defeat the bad guy.
And without preperation, Spider man would throw a car at him...
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2006-06-23, 01:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Thizz-face
The Batman Beyond suit raised the wearer's strength beyond mere human strength, so that Terry in the suit, like Bruce in the suit, was stronger than Bruce not in the suit. I don't know why anyone would even think otherwise. The "Joker" that Batman Beyond fought wasn't the real Joker, but Tim Drake, rather unbelievably transformed into the Joker by havint Joker's personality imprinted on him as a kid. The whole story was stupid. In any case, I've seen Joker given Batman a run for his money in a fist-fight; indeed, I've even seen Penguin do it. For years Batman was only marginally better in physical combat than these Supervillains. That too seems pretty stupid, given that Bruce trained with the best martial-artists (at least in more recent years; originally he just was good at punching and kicking and had no formal training) but these villains become uninteresting if Batman can easily defeat them in hand to hand.
I'd forgotten about the suit's stealth mode. I think that would give Terry a bigger advantage, although Spiderman's 6th sense might operate to negate it. Still I have to give a bit of an advantage to Terry.
If Spiderman is really strong enough to throw cars now, whether he has an advantage depends in part on how much Terry's suit absorbs shock. Is it supposed to be bulletproof like the rubber suit of the Batman movies? If so, then I'd still give the advantage to Terry. If, however, Spiderman is strong enough to throw cars and the Batman Beyond suit isn't bulletproof, I'd give the advantage to Spiderman because in that caes one punch could collapse Batman's ribcage or skull.Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-23, 01:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
The movie was okay, but the plot sucked.
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2006-06-23, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by TinSoldier
Edit: It might have worked better if they'd had some magic-using villain somehow transform Tim Drake into the Joker, so that we could believe the physical transformation. That would have required a more complicated storyline, with some sort of motivation for the magic-using villain to bother with the transformation, and wouldn't have emphasized the nasty nature of the Joker. Maybe they would have done better just to have avoided the whole thing?Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-23, 03:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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The "Return of the Joker" story was basically just depressing, I thought. It also came out around the time when Superman: TAS ended, which was also really depressing... and when Superman met Terry in Batman Beyond that was really depressing too. What is it with the WB writers around then?
To go back to the original topic, since I thought Spiderman would win vs. the real Batman, I think he wins against Terry, too. (Batman could win round 2 against Spiderman, but I think the first round almost certainly goes to Peter.)HUMANS....... ARE....... SUPERIORRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2006-06-23, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
I really, really cannot figure out which way this would go...which is kind of why I posted the topic in the first place, you know.
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2006-06-23, 06:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2006-06-23, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'd give the edge to Spidey in the long run. Even if he's beat, he usually can regroup and beat his opponent up the next time they meet.
And Spidey's got strength proportionate to a spider, so he's pretty strong.
What I want to know is, how strong is Terry? If Spiderman layered him up in a cocoon, could he break out?a secret to everybody.
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2006-06-24, 02:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Holy_Knight
I also recall an episode of Smallville in which an old lady who can see the future just sees Clark flying on forever without end. There have been other references too, such as what I believe might have been the episode in which Terry met the future Justice League, which included a slightly-aged Superman in a sharp black outfight with a silver S on the chest.
I recall that you gave Spiderman the edge over Batman in that other thread, and as you'll recall, I was surprised. I gave Batman an edge there.
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2006-06-24, 04:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
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2006-06-24, 05:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Didn't batman show up in Smallville one episode? Or did they ever go through with that?
Anyways, Epilogue trumps the sadness for sad Batmans. Terry's whole reason for being BB is thrown out the window with the shocking revelation that Bruce is his real father and then there's all this angst, but in the end he comes out ok.
Then of course, the end the whole frikkin' universe with the inverted shot at the end. (The first shot in "On Leather Wings", the first episode of BTAS, which started the DCAU was inverted for the final shot of Epilogue, which basically ends it).
I say... it's a tough choice. Terry by a hair, either early Terry with Bruce's help or later Terry who's on his own.
-BB was pretty good, for a silly kids show that, according to the creator, was "started just to sell toys". I was hoping for the movie, as I know lots of people were. Get Michael Keaton back behind that silly computer, and plop Jake Gyllenhaal into the tights... *nerdgasm*
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2006-06-24, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spider man wins because he had help from Pun-Pun and Chuck Noris.
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2006-06-24, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
Spider-man has been none to lift ten-tons as his limit. So I figure if he does, he can easily throw a car.
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2006-06-24, 10:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Spiderman has a giant robot at his beck & call! :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9q69dPKWgI
Seriously, though, I think that the battle's going to go to whoever decided to be more ruthless.
Funny thing about Peter, he rarely uses his scientific aptitude. Even Hank Pym admits getting an inferiority complex after examining Spidey's tracers, before admonishing Spidey that it's his responsibility to use all of his gifts, not just the physical ones.
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2006-06-25, 02:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spider Senses would be the edge to give this battle to Spiderman.
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2006-06-25, 03:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Jarl
As for Terry or Peter, I'm giving this one to Pete. His super agility and other powers would give him and edge even over Terry's suit. Spidey could probably beat Iron Man, and he has a way better battle suit that Terry.
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2006-06-25, 03:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Holy_Knight
I think it might be sort of silly to imagine that in the future everyone Superman loves has died. I mean, I can see his parents, Lois and Jimmy, but surely over his long life he has come to love other people as well. Various other future stories have shown him as head of the Justice League of the future, where he's friends with a newer set of superheroes. And Superman isn't distant like Batman; he's not just in the league or the leader of the league, he's a friend to those in the league. I think that as long as Superman exists, there will be people he loves and who love him back. Just as he has Lana as a teen and Lois as a young adult, he would have Linda as an older adult, etc.
Speaking of Linda (as in Linda Carter) I read in the Wonder Woman article on Wikipedia that in one recent storyline, Superman and Wonder Woman got together romantically, and that Wonder Woman even had Superman's child!
I'm pretty sure that in the episode of Batman Beyond where he meets Superman that Superman hasn't been controlled for all that long--certainly not for decades. It actually reminds me of a similar Paul Dini animated series story in which Superman had been controlled by a parasite at the Fortress of Solitude and Batman and Wonder Woman have to get the parasite off of him before he pummels them both to death.Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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2006-06-25, 03:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Beleriphon
The way I'd heard it was that before the first season they were talking about having a young Bruce Wayne show up as a business associate of Lex Luthor. I heard nothing about Batman showing up. The impression I'd gotten was that Bruce hadn't yet invented Batman. Now I think it would be too late to believe that Bruce would be involved with someone like Lex, who clearly has a sleazy reputation. Five years ago we might have believed that Bruce didn't know any better yet, but now that's not to credible.
On the other hand, I recall that in Paul Dini's series continuity, Wayne Industries and Luthor Corp had had some sort of joint venture that allowed Brainiac to download himself from the Luthor Corp computer to the Wayne mainframe. I don't know if they ever showed us the actual venture taking place or if this was just the backstory created for the story in which Brainiac uses nannites to take control of Bruce. It's hard to believe though that they ever did a joint venture. I just can't see Bruce ever trusting Lex.
I don't know about Iron Man's suit, but Terry's is extremely advanced and has all sorts of gadgets and I'm betting that Iron Man doesn't have remotely the level of gadgetry that's always been a hallmark of Batman (or at least has been since I've been alive).
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2006-06-25, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by CelestialStick
As for the suits, Iron Man's has been around since the late 60s early 70s. At first it was just to keep Tony alive, but it eventually evolved into what we have today. I'll see what I can find about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ma...s_of_the_2000s
Take from that what you will, but I contend that Stark as the superior battle suit if only because he managed to build one capable of wrestling with the Hulk. And by my further contention that Spidey could defeat Iron Man I can safely suggest that Spidey could beat Terry.
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2006-06-25, 05:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Beleriphon
P.S. Why was Spiderman fighting Stark anyway?
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2006-06-25, 11:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ah the peanut farmer. Good old Jimmy.
At any rate I don't think he ever has fought Stark, at least that I'm aware of. I'm only suggesting that that he could. It also needs to be asked which Spidey are we talking about, since in the receent continuit he's received an Iron Many like suit from Stark similar to the S.K.I.N. suit or the ablative one that is listed.