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    Default Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge V

    Basically, a challenge to create an optimised, flavourful character, using a "special ingredient" of a particular PrC, different for each contest. You will need to present your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:

    1. Menu: For most challenges, the "special ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.

    2. Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt are not allowed, as they create a different playing field. Also, item familiars are forbidden because I hate 'em.

    3. Cooking Time: Further to discussions in the previous thread, the secret ingredient will be announced from the get-go. Contestants will have until Thursday 27th May to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman, Heliomance. Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying.

    4. Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Secret Ingredient.

    Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.

    Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavour for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic point lost in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points.

    5. Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build, as I'm likely to miss it when anonymising the entries!

    6. Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.

    7. Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners.


    So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for about 5 judges and as many contestants as feel like playing!

    This contest will go on a little longer than usual, as I have three exams in a row when I would normally close it. Use your extra three days well!

    This week's special ingredient is...

    Complete Warrior's War Chanter!

    Allez optimiser!

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    I'm definitely down for this one as a contestant.
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    Count me in as a contestant for this one - I have just the thing.

    Curses. My idea required Leadership as a prerequisite. I have no other ideas. x3
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    Joining as a contestant, happily, I have the idea of what to do.
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    I'll join the judge's table again. War Chanter is a very interesting class.
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    Well for this one, I know I can get a hold of the book even if my copy disappears (unlike when I misplaced by BOVD for the Cancer Mage one) so I'd like to give this one a shot.
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    Ooh, I've actually been wanting to build a War Chanter recently. Count me in.

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    LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOY JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!


    Ok, if that wasn't clear enough, I'm back to do some more judgment.

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    Love this class. Will work something up. I wish we could use Dragon Magazine ARRRGHGGG!

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    We can use the Dragon Compendium if you have that. But yeah, no War Singer of Gruumsh, unfortunately :(

    Anyhow, I'll throw my hat in for this one as a contestant. War Chanter's decently versatile and has some cool mechanical abilities

    Also, glad to see so many familiar faces rejoining for this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akal Saris View Post
    We can use the Dragon Compendium if you have that. But yeah, no War Singer of Gruumsh, unfortunately :(

    Anyhow, I'll throw my hat in for this one as a contestant. War Chanter's decently versatile and has some cool mechanical abilities

    Also, glad to see so many familiar faces rejoining for this one!
    Take it easy on them, Akal, you're just being all dominant in the competition here.

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    I'm interested as a contestant. I have a decent idea :)
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    Oh. My...

    I am IN as a contestant on this one. Just... OMGWTFBBQ YES!

    EDIT: Well, that puts a damper on things... War Chanter doesn't stack with Bard levels for purposes of Bardic Music, such as Inspire Courage, just for uses per day. This... reduces the effectiveness of my original idea... but I've got another sneaky trick up my sleeve...
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    Joining as a spectator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arguskos View Post
    Take it easy on them, Akal, you're just being all dominant in the competition here.
    Hey, my ego's big enough without you feeding it!
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    Hey, my ego's big enough without you feeding it!
    Just noticing a trend here (you keep winning).

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    I'd be interested in judging.

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    I'm in again!

    I have thought this over, and I cannot find a cool unorthodox entry. With only lame ingrediŽnts to work with, I guess I cannot cook something up.
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    I'll join as a contestant. Hopefully I'll remember the deadline this time
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    Put myself down as a contestant, but not sure if I will actually submit anything. Next few days I'll be recovering from a weekend LARP, and creativity is completely drained.
    Hopefully shall regain some and figure out something to build, 'cause not seeing anything here to get funky with.
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    I will compete.
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    I'm really torn hear. On one hand I already have a flavorful warchanter build done in my head, on the other I've been wanting to try my hand at judging to introduce some different veiwpoints to the process.

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    I'm in for the penny, and also possibly the pound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand_of_Vecna View Post
    I'm really torn hear. On one hand I already have a flavorful warchanter build done in my head, on the other I've been wanting to try my hand at judging to introduce some different veiwpoints to the process.
    I'd say go for the build. Having a flavorful idea is half the contest in my mind - it would be a shame to be inspired and not use that idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akal Saris View Post
    I'd say go for the build. Having a flavorful idea is half the contest in my mind - it would be a shame to be inspired and not use that idea.
    What he said. I'd love to see more flavorful builds, because, (to stretch the cooking analogy), I love to eat.

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    Not generally big on bards. We'll see whether anything strikes my fancy here. The first interesting thought doesn't seem to work quite so well.

    Hmmm...

    I think I've found a way to salvage it. This ought to prove interesting.
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    Please remind me on the official stance re: web enhancements of published books.
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    Heh...I think you might be using the same web enhancement I am, Amphetryon. If it involves a certain FR book... :P

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