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    I saw the 7 minute promo last night and went almost as happy as when I wached 50 straight minutes of a spore demo. Anyway, I saw the Part where Magneto says "another needle will never touch my skin again" and i remembered that he is Jewish in the movies, I've never been a big comic book reader, and i was wordering if he was also jewish in the comics, or if hollywood threw that in for flavor.
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    I'm pretty sure he is. I think his parents died in the Holocaust.
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    Yup, Magneto is, or was born at least, Jewish.
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    Whats funny is theres a site somewhere that lists the majority of comic book characters by religion, because apparently they each had one.

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    I find it difficult to believe there was a superhero named 'Catholic Man'.

    Or 'Catholic Girl', 'BattlePope' or 'SuperPope'.
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    Well, it looks like some of these comics are from less than widespread organizations, and some are purely religious comics, so... who knows ;)

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    Incredulousness aside, why is there a question mark beside Mr Atheist's religion? Surely a man who calls himself 'Mr Atheist' is pretty unarguably an atheist.
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    Has anyone ever bothered to cross refrence that so that you can search the superhero you want to fing, instaead of sifting through piles of people in not-nessesarily alphabetical order?

    And for the red skull, is Nazi actually a religion? i had the idea that it is a poloitcal philosiphy

    And why, out of all of them, are there maybe, like 2 agnostics?
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    Has anyone ever bothered to cross refrence that so that you can search the superhero you want to fing, instaead of sifting through piles of people in not-nessesarily alphabetical order?
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    If you're looking for Magneto, he's right at the top of the Super-Villians section. He's 'Jewish (Roma/Gypsy ties)'.
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    I love the irony of Magneto playing the role of Inquisitor in Gaiman's 1602.

    Its a pretty good read btw.

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    Hey, they even have most of the Super Best Friends from South Park listed in there:

    Muhammad: Muslim
    Buddha: Buddhist
    Joseph Smith: Latter-Day Saints

    Wow, secrets revealed there. But no entry for Seaman, I notice...
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    Since i edited theses into an above post, and it kinda looks like most people missed them i'll ask again:

    for the red skull, is Nazi actually a religion? i had the idea that it is a poloitcal philosiphy

    And why, out of all of them, are there maybe, like 2 agnostics?
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    Well, since you want answers so badly:

    1. No, I don't know anyone who would classify "Nazi" as a religion, though as a political ideal it did have its fanatics. Leaders of that party at the time of World War II had diverse religious beliefs ranging from various Christian denominations to Atheism to the Classical Norse pantheon
    2. I have no idea.
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    for the red skull, is Nazi actually a religion? i had the idea that it is a poloitcal philosiphy
    It's only such insofar as it discourages OTHER beliefs that could possibly conflict with it. Kind of like how communism discourages (and/or represses) religion, since it means that the people are loyal to something OTHER than the state first: they are loyal to God. This is why in the USSR Lenin was attempted to be elevated in the eyes of the people to near-deific status. And in Nazism, Hitler was also given that "image" by his promoters. So in a way, it IS a religion, as those that "completely" believe in it can't have a religion as well, though it isn't a religion by most definitions. More of the "divinity of the race" with nazism, rather than a deity (or collection thereof).

    The best way to think about Nazism is this: Facism + Racism = Nazism. Yes, Facism is not by its very nature racist. It is often thought to be the same, but from a scholarly perspective, it is definitely not. Bad? Oh by most standards most definitely, but racism isn't a requirement of it, whereas it's ALWAYS present in Nazism.

    I hope that answered one of your questions at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhavaer
    I'm pretty sure he is. I think his parents died in the Holocaust.
    Nope, that's only in the movie. In the comics, Magneto's wife and child died in the Holocaust--because the character was created in the 1960's, only 20 years after the events of WWII. By the time the movies came out, though, it strained credibility for Magneto to have been a married adult in the 1940's and still able to get around as a supervillain. He would have been well over 90 years old! So it was changed into him being a young boy of 11 or so at the end of the Holocaust, making him in his sixties instead.
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    I think the reason so few are listed as agnostic is because they would be listed under the religion they had been raised in. For example, Batman is listed as Episcopalian/Catholic (lapsed), because he is from an Episcopalian and Catholic background, even though he doesn't believe or practice it. Only ones who were always agnostic would be listed as such. I think.
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    And just because I love it so much, yes there is a BattlePope. Kirkman's first published comic (I think) It's not particularly religious (apart from all the demons, god, jesus and popes...hmmm...) it's about a pope who was left on earth after the rapture because of all his bad habits (whoring high on the list.) It's stupid and offensive, but pretty funny
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    90 year old arse kicking Magneto sounds cool to me though.

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    Lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordOfNarf
    for the red skull, is Nazi actually a religion? i had the idea that it is a poloitcal philosiphy
    Well, that is the problem: while, lacking the transcendental, it is not a religion as one would usually define religion, it is neither a political philosophy as one would usually define those because it had certain aspects usually only found in religion.

    Hence, a certain school of political scientists came up with the term "political religion". I am not going to explain this in long here, but if I remember correctly, it was Voegelin who made this term famous, but there are some more recent scientists following his idea, Barry Cooper for example.
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    Lol!!

    "God
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    That was cool, along with Jesus under "Judaism/Christianity."

    Anyways, Jewish is both a religion and ethnicity, and some things get mixed up.

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    "Nope, that's only in the movie. In the comics, Magneto's wife and child died in the Holocaust--because the character was created in the 1960's, only 20 years after the events of WWII."

    They've never entirely said in the comics that he's Jewish but it's been very strongly inferred over the years. ie. He mentioned being forced to wear a star as a young child. He worked in the Sonderkommando (Only Jews were chosen for that.) He met Charles Xavier in Israel while both were working with Holocaust survivors. etc.
    He was interred in Auschwitz when he was barely a teenager and saw his parents and sister killed there but survived despite being buried alive in a mass grave. Following World War II he married a gypsy woman named Magda whom he met in Auschwitz. They moved to Russia and had a daughter named Anya. Their home caught fire shortly after he started manifesting his magnetic manipulation powers. He managed to get his wife out of the fire but the townspeople prevented him from rescuing his daughter and she died. His wife, who was pregnant with Pietro and Wanda (Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch) fled him out of fear for the safety of her unborn children and she died in childbirth on Wundagore Mountain under the protection of the High Evolutionary. When he learned of his wife's death he forged an alternate identity as Erik Lensherr, a Sinte gypsy and traveled to Israel.

    "He would have been well over 90 years old! So it was changed into him being a young boy of 11 or so at the end of the Holocaust, making him in his sixties instead."

    You have Alpha and Erik the Red to thank for his youthful vitality. Alpha regressed Magneto to infancy and he was later restored by Erik the Red to the prime of his life and multiple times in the comics he's been reset to the prime of his life. (By the Beyonder, during his sojourn in the Savage Land, using the Genengineer's machinery etc.)
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    if they wanted to keep Magneto alive and moving but still have him be alive durring the holocaust they can always just say that the magnetism flowwing through his body has a positive side-effect on his health/longevity. kinda like an ubber-version of those magnetic bracelets they give people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ing
    if they wanted to keep Magneto alive and moving but still have him be alive durring the holocaust they can always just say that the magnetism flowwing through his body has a positive side-effect on his health/longevity. *kinda like an ubber-version of those magnetic bracelets they give people. *
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    The placebo effect is powerful enough that it shouldn't be discounted.

    However the copper bracelets do actually work for arthritis.

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    The placebo effect is powerful enough that it shouldn't be discounted.

    However the copper bracelets do actually work for arthritis.
    if i told you cyanide pills had the same pain reliving effect, it would do ther same thing, so yes, i will discount it. Plus, studies have shown that more people get negative side effects from sugar pills when they are told that it is medication, so it works in reverse too.
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    if i told you cyanide pills had the same pain reliving effect, it would do ther same thing, so yes, i will discount it. Plus, studies have shown that more people get negative side effects from sugar pills when they are told that it is medication, so it works in reverse too.
    Yes, which is why the placebo effect should not be discounted. It can have very powerful results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirigible

    Yes, which is why the placebo effect should not be discounted. It can have very powerful results.
    There's placebos, and there's stretching credulity a bit. Magnets probably can't strip 30 years off of your life.

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