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Thread: Godhood IC
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2010-06-08, 08:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Godhood IC
The Elegant Nova Of Innovation chuckles darkly. "You assume that the judge would be a free-willed being with ambitions, hopes and fears. Why ever would I make such a creation? It will keep the laws. It will seek the advancement of family, justice and freedom. No more, no less.
By and by, if you were any more of a blowhard then you would be the god of the winds, I believe the saying goes. Just an observation, of course."
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2010-06-08, 09:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hrothlar
I heartily agree with all of these, and propose the following:
"- The Arbiter shall have no jurisdiction regarding war within planetary systems (on a planets surface and surrounding moons) but shall have the authority to intervene in interplanetary conflict amongst Mortals with the aim of preventing planetary apocalypse.
- No God can grant mortals directly with sophisticated technology or weapons. They must be allowed to advance independently at a reasonable pace.
- No God may hold mortals in a state of complete slavery. Free will must be allowed to some extent.
- No God may slander any other God, whether amongst mortals or other Gods.
- All of these rules apply to Avatars and Demigods sired by a major God as well."
Last edited by Mashimoto; 2010-06-08 at 09:01 PM.
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2010-06-08, 09:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Godhood IC
Azranthar
"No. I completely disagree. First of all, the arbiter will only have juristiction to uphold our laws, which has nothing to do with planetary war in the first place - unless it is among the creations of two different Gods.
The rest are rubbish. We may treat our children as we please. I do not follow your confused sense of morals, I have my own."English is a second language etc etc.
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2010-06-08, 09:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hrothlar sighs and takes a long drink from his wooden cup of water. A careful look reveals it has now transformed into a red wine. "I suppose it was too much to expect divine justice to extend to the mortals. I retract my points dealing with them, except for the one about granting mortals technology, especially weapons. Simply handing young races scientific truths on a silver platter proves nothing and is unnecessary. The natural maturity of a mortal race's science is a holy thing, and ought not to be prevented."
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2010-06-08, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Torr
"Well guys, you can count me out on this one. I'm too tired to contribute to the Arbiter at all. I can, however, Arbitrate, on the other hand, I think that everyone has agreed to agree on the Arbiter after all." He looks back and forth at the team assembled before him. "And where will the Arbiter Arbitrate from? This place is my domain, if you really want an Arbiter to Arbitrate without influence from me I would suggest you have a home for him that is far away from my mischeviousness."
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2010-06-08, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Godhood IC
State of the Council
Contributions to the Solar Forge
SpoilerThe Divine Council of Twelve
Azrathar, of Death and Disease
Lohkir, of Water and Disaster
Moarzed, of Chaos and Cats
Torr, of the Sun, Moon, and Magic
Bertholeum, of Change and Joy
Hrothlar, of Intelligence and Justice
Pyric, of Fire and Knowledge
Silunus, of Life and Magic
Hodari, of Peace and Shadow
Reloark, of Domination and Law
Seln, ofFun and Happiness (?)Decay and Undeath
Nova of Science and Technology
contributed to the arbiter
refused to contribute to the arbiter
ooc: Torr, the sun is your creation?
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2010-06-08, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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I agree with Hrothlar. Giving your child races technology beyond their time is dangerous. They should be allowed to make these discoveries on their own so that they have grown the wisdom to use such knowledge. I'm not saying we shouldn't give them gifts, but handing them things beyond their control is foolhardy.
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2010-06-08, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2005
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- http://www.giantitp.com/c
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"I meant in no way to insult your skills young one, but and old 'blowhard' like me has been through too much. I've seen things that would make Azrathar over there crawl into a mass abyss and die of his own pestilence. I cannot trust anyone without freewill while they are to an extent predictable they also have no thoughts. Even these disgusting ...fish... that pollute my water have enough thought process to survive even with there soul purpose is becoming food. So this Arbiter will be nothing but a Dictionary of Law? Will that be his soul propose? It will one day starts doing things for the sake of the Law that will become its life. And all I will do is wait.
You however... are very interesting and I will trust you for no other reason then to 'observe' something for myself."High Priest of the Fellowship of Xykon's Blade.
Member of below-average standing in the Class-Maker Guild.
Thanks to linklele for my Avatar.
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2010-06-08, 09:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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No offence to any others gathered here, but it's already been proven that without such restraint there are those that would lead their creations to subjugate and/or destroy the creation of others directly. Our purpose for gathering here is to come to an agreement on what is the best way to go about things, rather than each of us haphazardly doing as they please at the possible expence of others.
So no, no matter how much you or I may want to simply do as we please... we're here to set a few rules in place.
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2010-06-08, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2010
Re: Godhood IC
English is a second language etc etc.
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2010-06-08, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bertholeum
"Rules make my head hurt!"
And so Bertholeum ran far away.
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2010-06-08, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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State of the Council
Contributions to the Solar Forge
SpoilerThe Divine Council of Twelve
Azrathar, of Death and Disease
Lohkir, of Water and Disaster
Moarzed, of Chaos and Cats
Torr, of the Sun, Moon, and Magic
Bertholeum, of Change and Joy
Hrothlar, of Intelligence and Justice
Pyric, of Fire and Knowledge
Silunus, of Life and Magic
Hodari, of Peace and Shadow
Reloark, of Domination and Law
Seln, ofFun and Happiness (?)Decay and Undeath
Nova of Science and Technology
contributed to the arbiter
refused to contribute to the arbiter
ooc: Torr, the sun is your creation?
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2010-06-08, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Lohkir smiles at the rater curious god as he runs. An interesting fellow.
"I agree with Azranthar. We also need not to create creatures in other peoples domains, blasted fish now multiply through oviparous sodomy, polluting my lands, and whoever did so, did it without my consent, now I need to create animals that eat those fish just to keep equilibrium"High Priest of the Fellowship of Xykon's Blade.
Member of below-average standing in the Class-Maker Guild.
Thanks to linklele for my Avatar.
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2010-06-08, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Godhood IC
English is a second language etc etc.
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2010-06-08, 09:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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English is a second language etc etc.
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2010-06-08, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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"What I believe, Pyric is saying is that we must allow all sentient mortal creatures, regardless of the God the created them, a measure of free will, so that they are not enslaved. As Gods, we are responsible for our creatures, including for their freedom. And also, we must not present them with technology which would radically differ them from a normal pace of development.
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SpoilerLast edited by Mashimoto; 2010-06-08 at 10:04 PM.
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2010-06-08, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 10:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Azranthar
"As Gods, we are indeed responsible for our own creatures. And no one else's. If I think my children are better off under my direct control, you should not try and preach your own personal moral views onto me. I do what I think is best for my children - not what you think is best for them.
Pyric, if I tell my children to attack yours, is that fair? If I tell them to hate others, and you open a gateway to my world, and your children are greeted with slaughter, is that fair? How can we really say how much we have taught our children indirectly? It is a lot better to put down firm rules instead of having.. That chaos.Last edited by Shadowleaf; 2010-06-08 at 10:06 PM.
English is a second language etc etc.
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2010-06-08, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-08, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Now see... it is clearly you who are not listening. Under my proposed rule no god would be able to dictate their followers to attack the creations of another, though if they decided to do so, for whatever reason, of their own free will, then it would be their decision to make.
While by the wording of what you propose all races would be forced to live in harmony, their emotions and actions decided by our laws.
Mortals will create mortal laws, the divine will create divine laws.
Control your children as you would see fit, so long as you do not direct them to harm others.