[Steam] Thread XIII: The World's #1 Forum-Themed Hat Acquisition Simulator

[cezyou]

I'm glad about the map changing fix.

[watsyurname529]

New Killing Floor update, but it does not appear to be the balance patch that Tripwire is planning to eventually put in. Just some bug fixes.

Patch released:

Damn. I got my hopes up when I saw that Steam had finished downloading Killing Floor.

[Volatar]

I am really glad that bunny hopping does not speed you up in modern games. It always struck me as the stupidest thing ever.

On a different note, I also could not pass up the X-Com collection for $3.74, even though I already have the games from abandonware sites. It feels good to have paid for copies :)

I think I should play them some more too...

[blackfox]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Yes.

Thank you. No offense, no hard feelings.

*fleeeeees*

[Fawkes]

Okay, Wheatley is the best.

<3

[Nano]

He's alright at best. Glados raises the bar too high.

[AlterForm]

Was just watching an episode of the Colbert Report (probably a re run, considering the time). Stephen was poking fun at 2012 apocalypse shelters. Suddenly, a clip from L4D2, where Stephen describes how the apocalypse shelter you can purchase would come with "an attentive, 24/7 zombie staff."

[Sleverin]

[This is pertaining to the Heavy convo we've been having, kinda] As a traditional Scout player (I don't use any unlocks) I've been able to take down Heavies in three shots with little difficulty, as long as I'm not interrupted. That's if I come around a corner and surprise them. Any time a heavy is revved, I ain't attacking, cuz that's just damn foolish. If I face a good Heavy they'll kill me before I get my 3rd shot off, but they're in a bad spot, and without a Sandvich, they are easy targets for whoever wanders by.

[Rutskarn]

Let me go ahead and chime into the whole Heavy debate by bringing my class's perspective to the table: I think Heavies should be made of nothing but backs. Just a sphere of backs, a mobile hedgehog of shoulderblades and soft, barely-defended spinal columns. Of course, in the process, they'll have to remove all of the Heavy's weapons, but as it is currently the Heavy is too good at not getting killed by me, so something obviously has to be done.

[The Linker]

Let me go ahead and chime into the whole Heavy debate by bringing my class's perspective to the table: I think Heavies should be made of nothing but backs. Just a sphere of backs, a mobile hedgehog of shoulderblades and soft, barely-defended spinal columns.

You can't use the back-humper in TF2, though.

Coach frowns upon you.

[Worira]

Was just watching an episode of the Colbert Report (probably a re run, considering the time). Stephen was poking fun at 2012 apocalypse shelters. Suddenly, a clip from L4D2, where Stephen describes how the apocalypse shelter you can purchase would come with "an attentive, 24/7 zombie staff."

I was hoping for a Fallout joke.

I mean, other than the entire thing being a Fallout joke.

[blackfox]

You can't use the back-humper in TF2, though.

Coach frowns upon you.

What the hell, Hat? Is that you?

[AlterForm]

That's because part of the team working on it is from Seattle, they made a game called TAG! The power of paint. It's free, and it'll make you better understand were the goop is coming from.

The teaching methods and general setup reminded me a lot of how Portal eased you into the game. Quite fun.

[ZeroNumerous]

You can't use the back-humper in TF2, though.

Oh yes you can. Except in TF2 he's invisible half the time and three times as annoying.

[chiasaur11]

From the way these guys have been going on, it's more good in a "hear the burning of your troops" way.

Depends.

As hard as it is to believe, some day, some distant day, you will complete a mission in one take, with nobody dead. You will be amazed, shocked. You will remember every soldier in that ranger's name. You will remember every critical snapshot.

You will, unfortunately, forget to save. And then your base will be attacked by Chryssalids.

[Byrnbot08]

Hypothesis: Adding Special Infected from Left 4 Dead 2 to Team Fortress 2 will be declared overpowered and unfun within mere seconds of play.

Reasoning: Lone players will be punished for straying away from the pack, eliminating several emergent gameplay styles, such as combat Engineer, ninja Heavy, many valid Spy playstyles.

For Example:

• Lone Sniper defending atop Redfort will be pounced by Hunter, rendering him immobile and soon after, dead.
• Escaping Scouts may be smoked by Smoker or ridden by Jockies when attempting to escape, leaving him stranded across gap, unable to move and removing one of his valued abilities; freedom of movement.
• Heavies camping one location next to Dispenser may be shot at with Spitter goo, which does increased damage over time. This forces them to stop firing and move, or die from self-proclaimed invincibility.

[blackfox]

However. There still needs to be a Gibus reskin that is a Jockey. Just because.

[Rutskarn]

I will say this much for X-COM: it has provoked from me a near-unceasing torrent of creative profanity that I would not have previously considered myself capable of.

Within minutes, foul language becomes my language, a twenty-word glossary describing every sentiment from shock to outrage to indignation to contempt--even joy and triumph are rendered entirely in cusses. It's a little bit beautiful.

[xp194]

Remember, Ruts. UFO Defence will want to make you cry at the beginning. Then you get lasers. Then things even out a little. Then the aliens tech up and you cry again.

[potatocubed]

I have fond memories of how much the governments of the world hated me when I decided that the only way to reliably kill chrysalids was to blow up the entire map and burn down what was left. Didn't they understand that I was doing them a favour?

[Smiling-Jack]

Hypothesis: Adding Special Infected from Left 4 Dead 2 to Team Fortress 2 will be declared overpowered and unfun within mere seconds of play.

Reasoning: Lone players will be punished for straying away from the pack, eliminating several emergent gameplay styles, such as combat Engineer, ninja Heavy, many valid Spy playstyles.

For Example:

• Lone Sniper defending atop Redfort will be pounced by Hunter, rendering him immobile and soon after, dead.
• Escaping Scouts may be smoked by Smoker or ridden by Jockies when attempting to escape, leaving him stranded across gap, unable to move and removing one of his valued abilities; freedom of movement.
• Heavies camping one location next to Dispenser may be shot at with Spitter goo, which does increased damage over time. This forces them to stop firing and move, or die from self-proclaimed invincibility.

I think it'd be much better to have TF2 chars in L4D2, all four of you pick a class, start out with melee weapons, find random ones (like jarate or the smg, but only sniper can use), it'd be AWESOME, and with a little tweaking all the classes are pretty much balanced against the zombie apocalypse.

Scout:Good for helping stuck friends, bad when grabbed, but hard to grab, bonk would really be useful for getting to the button!

Soldier:Equal crowd control and taking out heavy-er zombies, but not brilliant at either.

Pyro: Zombies+fire. Yes, hell yes.

Demoman: Great in finales, and with charge'n'targe, good at helping friends too (you would totally plow through zombies and only stop when you hit a special)

Minigun guy: I feel he should be immune to getting grabbed by anyone but charger, brilliant against the horde, not so good against tanks or spitters, but sandvich would be a god send!

Engineer: Sentry. Finale. Nuff' said.

Medic: Hard to find a way to make him not overpowered, since losing health is one of the things that makes L4D great, needs thinking about.

Spy: Pass by hordes to switch off the alarm? kill/hugely damage tanks with a backstab? Good thing about the spy is at the beginning he pretty much already has his best weapon. Also, dead ringer.

Sniper: Smoker got scout 'BANG' pfffft. The sniper would be a special infected's nightmare, but the hordes dream.

I put way too much thought into this hypothetical...

[Shas aia Toriia]

So, I have a question about two games I'd like to buy - L4D2 and Killing Floor.
Which one is better? I know people with Killing Floor and it is cheaper, but Left 4 Dead I know about and have played.
Opinions?

[Volug]

Shas, your comp ain't to good, correct? At least, that's what I heard when I spoke to you last.

KF can run just peachy (40-50, no slow down at all) on mine while I have trouble TF2 (5-10 FPS on certain maps, 10-20 on all others, on surf_akai... 80+ for some reason). Killing Floor is fun as well :D

If running the games isn't a problem, L4D2>KF, especially with the amount of people here that play it. A lot of people play KF here, as well, however. And it's definatly worth it, especially if you have a low end comp.

[Byrnbot08]

So, I have a question about two games I'd like to buy - L4D2 and Killing Floor.
Which one is better? I know people with Killing Floor and it is cheaper, but Left 4 Dead I know about and have played.
Opinions?

Left 4 Dead/Left 4 Dead 2 provide a cinematic view of a zombie plague outbreak. It emphasizes teamwork, tactical thinking and situational awareness. The campaigns are long and very story based, and will give you a better experience with a close group of people.

Killing Floor is more of an arcade style zombie shooter. It makes you feel more badass. Cinematic in a different way, more of an action movie than a horror/survival movie. The shorter matches are great for short, quick bursts of fun with yer mates.

[Shas aia Toriia]

Shas, your comp ain't to good, correct? At least, that's what I heard when I spoke to you last.

Dual 2.8 GhZ Intel / 3 GB RAM / NVidia 240 GTS

Good enogh to run most games 3 or 4 years ago on Max settings, more recent stuff on medium/low.

[Dread Cthulhu]

I saw a thread about TF2 characters in L4D a while ago. It suggested that it would only be two characters to prevent it from becoming overpowered. I think that would probably be the best way around it.

[Volatar]

Dual 2.8 GhZ Intel / 3 GB RAM / NVidia 240 GTS

Good enogh to run most games 3 or 4 years ago on Max settings, more recent stuff on medium/low.

Yeah, you can run either game then.

I say go for L4D2 first due to the large player-base and the higher quality of the game itself.

[Smiling-Jack]

I saw a thread about TF2 characters in L4D a while ago. It suggested that it would only be two characters to prevent it from becoming overpowered. I think that would probably be the best way around it.

If you have it so they don't have most of their weapons to start with, and their original ammo capacities I'm sure you could balance it.

Although... nine of you would just be funny.

[Volatar]

For anyone who is struggling to learn X-Com, this link may very well help you.

[Shas aia Toriia]

Yeah, you can run either game then.

I say go for L4D2 first due to the large player-base and the higher quality of the game itself.

Alright, thanks.
Also, since I don't feel this warrants a new thread, I'm buying an external hard drive. Aside from the amount of space, are thee any differences I should watch out for?