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2010-07-08, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
... and just to add something I forgot, I think you also see why it is not a gamebreaker in any case. Perfectly opposite. If you're much stronger than enemy, you're most likely better overpowering them - if you're weaker, chances are you can't use Hanki anyway.
A hypothetical example would be Hannibal Magalhães and Sato Hachirou fighting. Sure, Hachirou could use Hanki against Hannibal. He might be bemused by the first try, then snort and laugh at the second... and finally punch through the third, as he's much stronger than the hapless 13th seat."It's the fate of all things under the sky,
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2010-07-08, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
My nefarious plan shall now be told. Sereg's going to tell Genoveva that he's releasing his slaves into the arena. He will then bet that "One of his people will be alive at the end of this." She will of course have Tark kill all of them, but the wording is vague, so Sereg will win by default, counting Voz and Landa as his people. The terms of the bet? If Genoveva wins he will keep his scars as a sign of humility and apologise for earlier in the day in front of the other Espada. If Sereg wins, she will apologise for her action earlier in the day and admit defeat. MUAHAHAHAHA
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2010-07-08, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-08, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
Language is not just about the words one uses, but the context and implications it has.
Therefore, to make use of wording in such a way is not cleverness. Instead, it is simply lying. Or maybe cheating or ignorance.Last edited by AmberVael; 2010-07-08 at 04:16 PM.
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2010-07-08, 04:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
No, it's stretching the truth within acceptable parameters. You know as well as I do Genoveva has done it. She made the terms of the match vague, so I'll make the terms of the bet just as vague. She also did the same thing to Pico. It's just a simple way to get what Sereg wants. Genoveva to be humiliated by her own conceitedness. She would never expect herself to lose a bet like that.
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2010-07-08, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
I dunno...trickster genies do this sort of thing all the time. 1 million pieces of gold, you ask? Well, you never specified the size of each piece. You want immortality? Too bad you forgot to ask for eternal youth along with it!
If Genoveva's not careful with her words, she could end up screwing herself over. Of course, the same warning applies to Sereg: he never specified when or where she is to apologize.Last edited by 13_CBS; 2010-07-08 at 04:22 PM.
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2010-07-08, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-08, 04:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-08, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
That's merely a demonstration of my point- trickster genies are working with your words, not anything else. People expect other people to follow more than just their words, for that is the basis of language.
It is a reasonable expectation, because otherwise you simply never could communicative efficiently at all.
Therefore, obviously violating these expectations (especially against someone superior to you) is less likely to make you succeed, and more likely to earn a brick to the face.
The terms of the match are vague, meaning there are loopholes to be exploited as not everything is filled in.
Sereg's bet would heavily imply one thing based on the context, which would imbue it with another meaning altogether than the one he is going to try and use against her.
These are not similar situations. One is about lack of rules, the other is about redefining rules.Last edited by AmberVael; 2010-07-08 at 04:27 PM.
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2010-07-08, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
Or, she could say "I will take this bet, but only under these terms". It's not a binary thing.
In other words: stop assuming you're going to outsmart her. She got to where she through both her body and her mind. Keep that fact in your awareness.
More speculation is pointless until this actually happens.
@Edge: First, bah! You keep making Vicente wait longer. Second, hope I didn't rush that. If you want to insert a bit more dialogue, feel free.
@Callos: I don't intend to find Genoveva instantly, but I'd rather not spend 10 posts mindlessly searching around. I'm sure he'll be embarrassed enough just being in a loincloth in front of the Primera and Tercera.
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
"Excellent." *steeples fingers*
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
May I demand your attention?
I have a nagging feeling that deleting posts from the registry messes up hyperlinks in the first post. I've yet to do testing on this, but still: Do not delete posts from the registry! It's not running out of space or anything. Just slap [NPC] tag on a character you won't use, or tell me to scratch over their names in the first post."It's the fate of all things under the sky,
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2010-07-08, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
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...Blast. I'm working for Mr. Smithers.
Riccaru. Just drop it. We'll see what happens. Maybe she'll accept, maybe she won't. But stop assuming Sereg is just going to outsmart her, or shame her into action, or anything like that. Seriously, just...stop. Please.
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2010-07-08, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
First. No you can't demand it.
Second, it does mess with the links. That was why Naraku's link went to the wrong post. The post count changes after you delete one and the hyperlinks are based on the post count. The url in the link stays the same, but where it goes changes.Sir Dan Avatar by Mrgone!
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
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2010-07-08, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 10
No, that won't replicate the phenomena I'm suspecting. Specifically, post numbers change each time a post is deleted; therefore, it's not guaranteed a link post with number 22 will go to right place if post 21 is erased. To properly test this, someone would have to delete a post from middle of the thread, after which I'd have to check all hyperlinks going to a post number higher than that.
In any case, it's easier for me if posts are no longer deleted! It saves me much editing work with the 1st post.Last edited by Frozen_Feet; 2010-07-08 at 04:44 PM.
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