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    I'd like to sign up as a contestant if it isn't too late.

    If it isn't, what are the rules as far as point and buy ability scores and determining hp?
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    Can I have multiple whips? I believe that someone said that you can empower multiple weapons with your weapon aflame ability, but can i manifest multiple fire whips? Also, is AEG fair to use?

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    Can I have multiple whips? I believe that someone said that you can empower multiple weapons with your weapon aflame ability, but can i manifest multiple fire whips? Also, is AEG fair to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodenbandman View Post
    Can I have multiple whips? I believe that someone said that you can empower multiple weapons with your weapon aflame ability, but can i manifest multiple fire whips? Also, is AEG fair to use?
    By the wording of Fire Lash, yes, just remember that you would take the standard TWF penalties. And AEG is legal, but I'd be careful to pick things that weren't updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woot Spitum View Post
    I'd like to sign up as a contestant if it isn't too late.

    If it isn't, what are the rules as far as point and buy ability scores and determining hp?
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    I use average hp as suggested in the DMG. So if the hit die is a d8, it is 4 per die, 5 every second level. It should bring the total to an approximate average, factoring in the maximum result from the first die.

    I'll try and submit a build, but all my concepts keep tanking. Ive gone through a couple of basic builds, but I'm finding it difficult to come up with something that emphasises the strength of Pyrokineticist, but does not suck for the majority of it's career. Having to start as a spellcaster for the Alchemy prerequisites is only part of the problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinWin View Post
    Having to start as a spellcaster for the Alchemy prerequisites is only part of the problem...
    In the spirit of healthy competition, I feel I must point out:

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    To make an item using Craft (alchemy), you must have alchemical equipment and be a spellcaster.
    I see nothing in the rules about needing spellcasting to take Craft(alchemy) ranks, only to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinWin View Post
    I use average hp as suggested in the DMG. So if the hit die is a d8, it is 4 per die, 5 every second level. It should bring the total to an approximate average, factoring in the maximum result from the first die.
    It's easier, and the way monster making goes, it's 1/2d.5 per HD.

    So you have 20d8, it's 20 x 4.5.

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    I'm going to have to bow out. I have a build almost finished, but there is no way I'll finish a write up in time. My articulate side moves to slowly. I would like to try again in the future though.

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    RL issues prevented me from doing my entry, so I guess I'll have to bow out (again T^T)
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    Hope to see you two at followings contests. By the way, stay tuned and, eventually, after Prinny posted the builds, post your ideas too.

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    I'm presuming Bolt of Fire is based on your Pyrokineticist class level, not "each class level the pyro has", which could mean just your level. Which would be CRAAZY.

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    It does indeed refer to your Pyrokineticist level.
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    Just making sure Quicken Spell-like Ability isn't a necessity :D

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    We're officially into the last day of the competition now. I just hope I get that mass influx of last-second PMs that I've come to know and love.
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    Naghhhh. Writing backstory, and filling out stat blocks. I have the build, and the plan, but do I have time to write? Well, with work tommorrow, it's going to be close. Oh well. Worst case scenario, I hand in what I've got.

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    Done. Can't wait to see the other entries.
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    Character is submitted, and on fire.
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    What time is the deadline, in what time zone? GMT user here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdleMuse View Post
    What time is the deadline, in what time zone? GMT user here...
    21:00 GMT -4, or 9 PM EST.
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    9 more hours til the big show.

    I swear, it's so hot this week here and entering this just made it feel warmer.

    Peaked at 106 yesterday (41 C). And I'm in north Georgia for Pelor's sake.

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    I'll try to get my submission on time, but I really don't know if I can do it.
    This week I've been very very busy with yuyukai being held in my university, not to mention finals. I'd hate to skip on this, so I'll try to get back home as soon as I can to finish my build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Vorpal Tribble View Post
    9 more hours til the big show.

    I swear, it's so hot this week here and entering this just made it feel warmer.

    Peaked at 106 yesterday (41 C). And I'm in north Georgia for Pelor's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Vorpal Tribble View Post
    Peaked at 106 yesterday (41 C). And I'm in north Georgia for Pelor's sake.
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    I beat my head against this one for a couple of days and have been unable to come up with a decent concept, let alone a set of synergistic classes and PrCs. On top of that, I have to come up with something at L12 for tomorrow afternoon for my regular D&D game, and I'm having issues coming up with something for that, too. Adding to that the fact that I have entirely too much stuff to do at home, I have to bow out as well.

    Unfortunately, the only thing I could think of to do was something like Rogue into Soulknife into the secret ingredient, and that would have been seriously lacking on power, never mind the lack of elegance or synergy. Nope, I'm going to pass this time around and see what everyone comes up with... Hell, maybe I swipe someone's build for use as my character in my regular game, provided the contestants don't mind too much.

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    I ran through 4 different builds before submitting my half finished one. I'll post the basics of my other idea's later.

    Unfortunately study is eating up a lot of my time at the moment. It made it hard to get focussed on optimization. However, I think this round was a worthy challenge. The pyro can go in a lot of different directions.

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    Yeah, the ingredient wasn't the issue for me so much as cramming it in with everything else in my schedule. After the builds are posted I'll share my idea. It's a single class entry :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariettaGecko View Post
    Hell, maybe I swipe someone's build for use as my character in my regular game, provided the contestants don't mind too much.
    Speaking for myself only, I'm always seriously honored to hear about my creations making it into someone else's game(s). I only ask that you mention it to me, and any build I post should be considered fair game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akal Saris View Post
    Yeah, the ingredient wasn't the issue for me so much as cramming it in with everything else in my schedule. After the builds are posted I'll share my idea. It's a single class entry :)
    I have a single class, but found that an extra PrC probably added to my power. I wonder if we had the same idea....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrarity View Post
    I have a single class, but found that an extra PrC probably added to my power. I wonder if we had the same idea....
    Uh, oh. Second time I hear, did it me too... Just hoping we did not the same thing, or our originality score would be: "epic fail"

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