The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144)

[Trobby]

And now the name has changes. This is a silly thread indeed.

[Dogmantra]

The title's awkward now. Something like "The thread that caused too many arguments about the title" would be a little better.

[Rawhide]

The title's awkward now. Something like "The thread that caused too many arguments about the title" would be a little better.

You're right. It wasn't awkward enough. Now the title ends on a preposition.

[Dogmantra]

Now the title ends on a preposition.

Not an English grammatical rule, never will be.

"For what?" sounds far more formal and awkward than "what for?", for example. "I didn't know who to give it to." is much better than "I didn't know to whom I should give it." There are too many constructions in English that rely on prepositions at the end for this to be a rule.

"This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put." - Winston Churchill (allegedly)

[Rawhide]

In informal speech, I end sentences like that all the time - never in formal writing though.

[Tiger Duck]

The title confuses me a lot now. What does the "before" mean?

[YPU]

why don't we ad "because YPU was to stupid to use spelling check before creating it" in there as well?

well actually I could, but I'm not stupid enough to go against the raw man, I'm not that stupid.

[Eadin]

The name just keeps on changing...
first 'inside' , now 'before' ...
I liked the "tuna" one..

[Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll]

The name just keeps on changing...
first 'inside' , now 'before' ...
I likes the "tuna" title...

The next Random Banter isn't gonna have a title, just to avoid this. Mark my words.

[SpiderMew]

Does the name really matter?

[Tiger Duck]

I don't think it does, it's just more interesting to talk about then anything else I might have to say ^^

[Eadin]

sadly, same here ...
Although I baked a delicious cake this afternoon
*noms*

[Thufir]

Cookie Monster is one epic camera dodging ninja.

I tried to take a photo of him while we were racing, but he somehow hid behind a tree. While biking at top speed. Despite his unawareness of the fact that I was making the photo.

Meh. At the UK meetup, I managed to get 15 photos of him, despite his best efforts to evade cameras.

[Tiger Duck]

Oh what kind?

[Eadin]

Chocolate !
*noms some more*

[Tiger Duck]

Sounds delicious

[Eadin]

it is
and it's all mine ! mhuahahahaha

*ahum*
yeah...

[Castaras]

I am disconcerted. Castaras is now facebook friends with a friend of some of my friends. My internet and RL friends link. It's weird.

Mwahaha!

Meh. At the UK meetup, I managed to get 15 photos of him, despite his best efforts to evade cameras.

I got quite a few photos of him.

[Zeb The Troll]

As for me, I'm reading a study book and they keep saying "data are" not "data is", GAH!

Fora. Fora fora. I love these fora. So many fora here to read.

[Dogmantra]

Fora. Fora fora. I love these fora. So many fora here to read.

Don't let Rawhide see this. The correct plural in the sense of an online bulletin board is forums.

[Zeb The Troll]

Don't let Rawhide see this. The correct plural in the sense of an online bulletin board is forums.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious that I was taking a direct jab at Rawhide.

Though, to be honest, I would like to hear the reasons why "data are" is incorrect. I was always taught that "datum" is singular and "data" are plural. Apparently Rawhide does not agree with my high school/college English teachers.

[Dogmantra]

Sorry, I thought it was obvious that I was taking a direct jab at Rawhide.

Oh, it was obvious. You just do not joke about the serious matter of PLURALISATION.

And I always thought data worked like a "much" noun, that is to say, it's something you would ask "how much" about rather than "how many".

[Zeb The Troll]

And I always thought data worked like a "much" noun, that is to say, it's something you would ask "how much" about rather than "how many".

I've not heard this line of reasoning. Go on.

[Teddy]

Whoa! I'm gone for almost two days and we're suddenly eight pages into a new thread. The world is moving to fast for me. Auuuaaauuugh...

ION: It's been raining literally the whole day, and the temperature has dropped from 20 degrees to 10 degrees overnight (degrees Celsius, naturally, not that bulky Fahrenheit scale). A week ago, when I still was at home, it was up to 30 degrees warm. I'm slightly annoyed by this.

[Tiger Duck]

Anyone feel like annihilating me in Scrabble?

[Starfols]

My complaint with the title was that I don't like tuna.

Hey, I had my first GitP related dream! I had 9 PMs in my inbox, and no matter how many times I clicked, I couldn't get more that 2 or 3 open at a time. The guy who is running a game I'm in got banned, and we were scrambling around, trying to find someone to take care of it.

[Thufir]

Mwahaha!

*Shakes fist.* You and your weirding ways!
What next? Spanner knows my friend who's at Sheffield uni? Archie knows Josephine and/or the Carpenter? Curly met my childhood best friend at Oxford?
Or I guess life could continue as before.

[CurlyKitGirl]

If you're willing to make the trek up to Newcastle, Gosforth are doing it next year - I will be ioining them and auditioning for the part of Colonel Fairfax, show in April I think.

:glee!:

Hope you get the part.

I was more referring to the fact you live in Penzance.

Sadly, my piratical booty is lacking, even though it's more or less where I live. I'm a sad pirate.

Personally, I felt my puns were of a higher standard, and you were the first to stop. Probably because you had to come off the internet, but still.
I think I'm a little off my pun-game, at least compared to back then. I'm trying to think of one and all my efforts are proving to be fruitless.

At the time I was a 'conscientious student', so things - unimportant things kept distracting me.
But luckily I can now concentrate and distill my puns into a collection of stock phrases, iabs and witty repartee.
That is, should you ever choose to pick up our game again.

Since I think my comment in the last thread got passed over,

Originally posted by Thufir
I like sopranos and altos equally. Iosephine's high C gives me shivers and giggles.
Also, I think Curly is the most amazing person in the entire world!!!111!!

And yeah, alto parts can be a bit bad. Especially in G&S and christmas carols, or anything relatively boring and classical. Or, if the music is more complicated, they end up as the repository for all the leftover notes in the weird chords, like baritones in barbershop. So, parts still odd, and also difficult to sing.

Don't worry, I reconstructed your quote for you.
I do like sopranos, it's iust that they can get so screechy. Especially in a choir.
Iealousy is also a part of it. Honestly, the altos are 'never' heard, and yet can have tricksome parts; iust like you say.
Oh, for the record, classical can sometimes be boring, but I've never done any. Except a very short song by Elgar. It was two pages long!

Well, I don't think the RB pantheon ever had a God of Cuteness, though I might be misremembering. Getting to be an RB deity is fairly easy. Curly's impressive because she gets proclaimed as a Goddess elsewhere, and also because people basically decided she was a Goddess without her proclaiming herself as one.

We have Atreyu. Somewhere around here.

I wouldnt call not having the sound for se with a silent e is willing. It's not being use to it. It's not their job to "evolve" their language either. You'r really just insulting their culture as I see it.

. . . .
*Koorly linguist asplodes*

Uh, that's what cultural exchange and loanwords do anyway. And way to go putting quotation marks around evolve like evolution is some kind of blasphemy. Language grows and changes over time (le gasp!) That they love it so much and aren't handicapped from making the sounds would suggest more that it was a purposeful decision to prevent foreign sounds from leaking into Japanese. I'll need to double check this, but if I'm recalling correctly, the Japanese language has similar entitites overseeing its development (or actively preventing it in some cases) as Continental Spanish and French.

Exactly!
All languages evolve!
Iust over generations. And often between social groups.
It - I - But -
If a language doesn't chane it stagnates! L'academie Francaise (pardon my lack of accents, but my dinner is rapidly getting cooler and cooler) assesses every single loan word or borrowing and creates a French equivalent because they want to keep their language pure and free of contamination.
And because of this the French language know only has an approximation of 60 000 'official' words because they refuse to include any foreign word.
So now the French have a formal set of vocabulary for anything official i.e. governmental or business letters, and an informal set for everything else in the entire universe.
I don't like L'academie Francaise (or any similar thing) as it artificially attempts to control and limit a language and its organic and natural progression of evolution.
They are strangling their own language.
It's a good thing then that most people ignore the rulings of L'academie except when it comes to formal exams and the like.
But I still don't like them.

I am of the opinion that loanwords should remain loanwords, and that new words should be adapted to the language it's being used in. For example, the way English pronounce words like über or anime, is not the same way they are pronounced in their native language. Loanwords will continue to change pronunciation to fit the language they're immigrating into.

It's what happens all the time. Iust not so often you'll note it.
In French you can say, "J'ai recu un email." which is perfectly correct. But in official documents (and all correspondence in a business) you have to say "J'ai recu un courriel." even though the two words mean the exact same thing.
Furthermore, at least with English (for reasons listed below) we have so many words for everything. 'Cooking' and 'cuisine' mean the same thing, iust in different registers.
I could go on and on about this, and explain why, but I won't unless asked as I can go on enormous filibusters about this sort of thing.
Loanwords . . . are always loanwords. Even words which have been in the ENglish language for hundreds of years are still called loanwords. Or borrowings. Or something else.

It's funny that we're talking about this in English, seeing how many loanwords that has.

Eh, there's a quote I read somewhere a very long time ago that I loved and often paraphrase.
The English language is the type of language who will chase other languages down dark alleyways, mug them and steal anything of interest they find and keep it to themselves.
Generally speaking, most sentences ever written in English will contain at least one loanword, sometimes they'll be obvious, or their pronunciation will have changed to English phonology.
Nothing wrong with it.

I am disconcerted. Castaras is now facebook friends with a friend of some of my friends. My internet and RL friends link. It's weird.

Imagine my surprise when College's Husband's Little Brother turned out to be a member of GitP.
And he'd heard of me, both as my real life name and as Curly. Before we'd even met.

IRN (In Related News):
Wow. Anything to do with English gets me on a filibuster. Stop feeding the English nerd!


EDIT:
@Happy: LExulous multiplayer room?
Give me a few minutes.

[Tiger Duck]

yes, multilayer room,can we play with just the 2 of us?

[CurlyKitGirl]

Already in there.