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    Side question, away from book currently, but was wondering if the Animal Lord from ROTW was the same or different from the Complete Adventurer version? If they are different, can anyone give me a quick run down? (As in completely different, similar but DR is different, or the same)
    There is no Animal Lord class in Races of the Wild. AFAIK, the Complete Adventurer version is the only one.
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    There is no Animal Lord class in Races of the Wild. AFAIK, the Complete Adventurer version is the only one.
    I think he means the 3.0 something-something of the wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by true_shinken View Post
    I think he means the 3.0 something-something of the wild.
    Masters of the Wild, maybe? Unfortunately, I got rid of a lot of my 3.0 material, so I can't check it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private-Prinny View Post
    Masters of the Wild, maybe? Unfortunately, I got rid of a lot of my 3.0 material, so I can't check it.
    Well, it can't be the exact same class, otherwise they wouln't have updated it, right? ^^

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    Correction, sorry. I meant Masters of the Wild. Yes i know, it's 3.0, but i had it handy.

    Don't be too hard on me, just had the thought while sitting here in my cubicle at work.
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    *is wondering if anyone is going to be more than one type of Animal Lord in the same build*
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjames View Post
    Correction, sorry. I meant Masters of the Wild. Yes i know, it's 3.0, but i had it handy.

    Don't be too hard on me, just had the thought while sitting here in my cubicle at work.
    They are significantly different. The 3.0 version is much better, sadly. 4th level casting, at will wild shape for the animal type, and the ability to grant a lesser version thereof to allies.
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    Any submissions yet, Prinny?
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    Any submissions yet, Prinny?
    Not yet, but I know what BooNL's concept is going to be, and I'm looking forward to the execution.

    We've had 8 Iron Chef competitions of playable characters, including playable Entropomancers. Don't let me down on this one.
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    Mine's in the works, but is being refined for elegance.

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    Arg, I've just realised my build gets the same ability two different ways, really poor optimisation, also about -10000 elegance.

    Dammit. I may not end up submitting.
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    Probably will be submitting something later tonight. Haven't had time to really look through my ideas.
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    I just got back from vacation, (and finally saw the results of the last competition), but I don't think I'll have time to write up a build this time around. I would be interested in judging, though, if there is room.
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    Crunch is done, the fluff is all in my head, now it's just about getting it out. Prinny, should I send you a PM of the crunch now, or just wait until it's all together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMG PONIES View Post
    Crunch is done, the fluff is all in my head, now it's just about getting it out.
    This is mostly true here, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMG PONIES View Post
    Crunch is done, the fluff is all in my head, now it's just about getting it out. Prinny, should I send you a PM of the crunch now, or just wait until it's all together?
    I'd prefer it if all of the formatting is done before you submit your entry.
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    Y'know... something occurred to me so went to look it up. The druid alternative shapeshift feature in the PHB II grants practically all this entire PrC does before you're even of level to qualify for it, and does it better.

    Animal Lord officially blows chunks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    This is mostly true here, too.
    Me three. Not good at the fluff writing at the best of times and this one just refused to be put on to the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Vorpal Tribble View Post
    Y'know... something occurred to me so went to look it up. The druid alternative shapeshift feature in the PHB II grants practically all this entire PrC does before you're even of level to qualify for it, and does it better.

    Animal Lord officially blows chunks
    Does it let you talk to animals with your mind?

    Also, Prinny, are submissions due Monday morning or Monday night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMG PONIES View Post
    Does it let you talk to animals with your mind?
    Nope, one ability it doesn't have. Not saying Animal Lord is completely replaced, but pretty darned close.

    Also, Prinny, are submissions due Monday morning or Monday night?
    Monday, 9 pm, EST is how he's been doing it.

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    Animal Lord officially blows chunks
    Which is kind of the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMG PONIES View Post
    Does it let you talk to animals with your mind?
    It grants telepathy with the chosen animal.

    I should have an entry in tomorrow or the day after.

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    Which is kind of the point.
    Yeah, but I think this one is so far the tops (or is it the bottoms?)

    Still, have found a couple unique things to it to exploit.

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    I'm not going for exploits, just a playable (optimized) character with a consistent theme and compelling backstory. I may be doing it wrong...

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    VorpalTribble, you're Mr.T(ribble) avatar needs more bling. Make it happen.
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    Yeah, but I think this one is so far the tops (or is it the bottoms?)

    Still, have found a couple unique things to it to exploit.
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    Have you forgotten Stonelord?
    Sadly, I have not.
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    yay. Half submitted! That table took longer than I would have liked. Worth it though, the presentation is a lot better.

    edit. Done and done. Looking forward to see what else is on the menu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias9 View Post
    Have you forgotten Stonelord?
    My thoughts exactly.
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