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    So no thougths on the capstone? Too bland? Anything?
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    I don't see any problems. I'd like to have the abilities stack a little more-as is, they never get any better. At higher levels, they'll be useless. Maybe breath weapon do 1/2HD, or 'the saem as your tenebrous touch, having phantom cat levels stack'. Poison could be 1d4+1d4/HD, or +1d4/3 Harrowed/Phantom Cat levels. Not so sure about level drain... maybe just +1 per 3... eh. Your call.

    ...also, being able to combine energy drain and breath weapon would make me a happy kitty. Possibly poison too.
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    I'm also big on scalability based on character level or combined specific class levels, so allowing Phantom cat and Harrowed levels to stack for level-based abilities is a good way to advance them and at the same time encourage players to stick with the class instead of cherry-picking.

    Fear: I also think the fear ability should be consciously activated (swift or immediate action?). Otherwise the effect might affect opponents at inopportune times.

    Blindsight: You may want to change that to 10'. Inches of blindsight are generally not very useful and clutters the character sheet.

    I first thought the capstone was a bit underwhelming, but it is actually rather useful, as many of the offensive abilities are 'save and get off scot-free'. Combining energy drain and breath weapon is kinda cool though.

    When choosing an attack to apply your ability to, why choose bite? You get two primary claw attacks in a full attack, but only one bite (at -5 to hit). Maybe give bite-based abilities a slightly higher save DC to compensate?


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    As the soldier was about to strike the finishing blow, he was distracted by a strange mewling sound. It came from a small furry creature, a cat twisted in subtle and disturbing ways yowling and mewing to itself and the world at large, as if in great pain.
    The soldiers' brain itched, if one could call it that. The cats presence offended him deeply in some way it could not explain, had he been prompted.
    His broken opponent momentarily forgotten, he turned to the creature and raised his sword. Then he hesitated. From the cat came a roiling acrid cloud, enveloping the soldier and turning his world to oily burning darkness.
    Moments later, the tenebrous cat inhaled and brought the cloud within itself, leaving but a broken husk of a man where a soldier had once stood.

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    edits will be done soon.
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    Changes are made. If you dont like the capstone as is, maybe an enhanced class ability from the list?
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    Whilst I await feedback here's a spoiler: Pirate kittehs are next
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    YES. Pirate kittehs = win. I can't wait to see what you've got planned.

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    might as well fire this up while I await peoples thoughts on the cap

    SEA TIGER



    "ARR!! Um...I mean myow..."

    Since many sea going vessels use cats as a means of rat extermination it was inevitable a few Cat Burglars on the run would sneak on board ship. It was also inevitable a few thought the pirate lifestyle was schweet. So eventually Cat Burglar Guilds took to privateering.

    BECOMING A SEA TIGER
    Any Cat Burglar with the appropriate skills can join, as long as they swear the usual Pirate's Oath.

    ENTRY REQUIREMENTS
    Class Abilities: Enhanced Kitty Form (Seacat Form, Spidercat Form, Watchcat Form)
    Skills: Balance 4 ranks, Climb 4 ranks, Diplomacy +4, Knowledge (Geography, Local, Nature) 4 ranks, Profession (Sailor) 4 ranks, Survival 4 ranks, Swim 8 ranks


    Class Skills
    The Sea Tiger's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Balance (Dex), Bluff (Cha), Climb (Str), Diplomacy (Cha), Escape Artist (Dex), Gather Information (Cha), Hide (Dex), Jump (Str), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (Geography, Local, Nature)(Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Profession (Wis), Search (Int), Spot (Wis), Survival (Wis), and Tumble (Dex).
    Skills Points at Each Level : 8 + int

    Hit Dice: d6

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       BAB  Fort    Ref    Will  Abilities
    1. +0    +0     +2     +0    Parrot Familiar
    2. +1    +0     +3     +0    Parley?
    3. +2    +1     +3     +1    Okay Screw Parley
    4. +3    +1     +4     +1    Parrot Familiar
    5. +3    +1     +4     +1    Parley?
    6. +4    +2     +5     +2    Okay Screw Parley
    7. +5    +2     +5     +2    Parrot Familiar
    8. +6    +2     +6     +2    Parley?
    9. +6    +3     +6     +3    Okay Screw Parley
    10.+7    +3     +7     +3    Professional Treasure Hunter
    Weapon Proficiencies: Sea Tigers gain proficiency with Martial Weapons and Personal Firearms.

    Parrot Familiar: At 1st Level you gain a parrot as a Familiar. This is identical to the PHB ability listed under Sorcerers, except the Familiar cannot deliver touch spells or share spells. Instead starting at 1st Level it can speak Common, and shares any ranks you may have in Bluff or Diplomacy.

    At 4th Level you can decide that any Supernatural or Spell-Like Ability you use can be shared by your Familiar if you use it when the Familiar is within 5'.

    At 7th Level your Familiar gains access to your Exceptional Class Abilities as well. You can choose one at the beginning of each day, and your Parrot may use it for the next 24 hours.

    Parley? (Ex): Seeing as you tend to get into loads of trouble, you often need to bs your way back out of it. Beginning at 2nd Level you get a +2 Bonus to Bluff and Diplomacy Checks.

    At 5th Level you may always take 10 on Bluff or Diplomacy checks.

    At 8th Level you don't take the -10 Penalty on Diplomacy Checks for performing one as a Full Round Action instead of 1 minute. You also don't take Penalties to Bluff Checks when feinting against nonhumanoids.

    Okay Screw Parley (Su): Parley often fails, so for those times you've learned various backup skills. At Levels 3, 6, and 9 you can choose one ability from the following list:

    Talk Like A Pirate: You speak gibberish and nonsense. You can cast Confusion at will as long as you are able to speak.

    Swear like a sailor: Your speech can literally peel paint. If you wish when you speak everyone within 60' must make a Willpower Save or be Fascinated for as long as you continue talking. Attacks or spells/abilities used on them break the Fascination. Opponents also receive an additional Saving Throw each round you take any action but using this ability (using this ability is a Free Action each round), but if you're willing to take the risk you can perform other actions while ripping someone a new one.

    Rum Runner: You can drink with the best of them. While drunk you gain a Circumstance Bonus on all Saving Throws equal to half your Sea Tiger Level. You also take no ill effects from alcohol, and can taste test potions with no ill effects.

    Professional Courtesy: Sharks like you, and you can talk to them (along with most sea critters). You can cast Charm Monster a number of times per day equal to your Charisma Modifier as a Supernatural ability, but only against creature with the Aquatic Subtype (you can speak to them as well).

    Damn All Ninjas: You have a professional rivalry with Ninjas and such. You get a Competence Bonus equal to half your Sea Tiger Level on all attack and damage rolls against anyone belonging to or employed by a Ninja Clan, or who has levels in Ninja.

    Good Luck Charm: Things seem to go well when you're on board. You can declare you are using this ability as a Free Action at any time 3 times per day. You get a Luck Bonus equal to half your Sea Tiger Level, and do not have to declare you are using this before making the roll.

    Weather Witch: You can change the weather in favor of your boat. You can cast Control Weather once per day.

    Rope Swinger: You fancy yourself a romantic swashbuckler, whatever the truth may be. You can always take 10 on Balance, Climb, Dexterity, and Jump Checks.

    Treasure Hunter: You have a knack for finding valuables. You may cast Treasure Scent at will (see Spell Compendium), and gain a Bonus on Sleight of Hand Checks equal to half your Sea Tiger Level.

    Pirate Wench: Somehow you remain in the company of all male thieves, rapists and murderers while barely clothed. Obviously you are the daughter of Asmodeus. You gain a Bonus on all Charisma based skill checks equal to half your Sea Tiger Level, but only against those interested in your gender. It goes without saying you have to be female for this.

    Lord of the Thunder: You are well versed at fighting with a pistol in each hand, and have about 8 or so backup guns on you at all times. You may draw and fire a pistol as a Standard Action, you ignore any chances of misfire, and a number of times per day equal to your Charisma Modifier you may elect to do maximum damage instead of rolling.

    Blood and Thunder: You fight with sword and pistol to great effect. If you successfully damage an opponent with a firearm, he gets a -3 Penalty to AC against all sword attacks you make for the rest of the encounter. This does not stack with multiple hits.

    Tattoos: You are quite intimidating. You may use the Demoralize Opponent ability of the Intimidate Skill as a Swift Action.

    Roughneck: You have many scars, and perhaps a peg leg or eyepatch, and yet seem to suffer no ill effects from this at all. you gain a Bonus on Fortitude Saves equal to half your Sea Tiger Level, and are immune to any abilities causing hit point damage due to excess bleeding such as wounding.

    Fancy Yerself a Captain: Your goal is to own a fleet of ships one day really. You gain a Bonus to your Leadership Score equal to half your Sea Tiger level.

    Big Daddy Voodoo: Skeletons and zombies are common in your culture and you have learned how to deal with them. You may perform critical hits on the Undead as well as perform Sneak Attack or Sudden Strike.

    Deathbeard: You have a beard, and there's just something evil about that. You gain Frightful Presence, and any living creature within 30' of you when you attack (and that has less Hit Dice than you) must make a Willpower Save or be Shaken for the duration of the encounter.

    Bosun: You are a sailor's sailor, and can always Take 10 on Drive (Boat), Knowledge (Geography), Profession (Sailor), and Survival Checks.


    Professional Treasure Hunter (Su): You gain complete immunity to any spell with the word 'curse' in the title, along with any power or effect that mimics the effects of said spells. You also get a Bonus on all Saving Throws against Traps equal to your Sea Tiger Level, and are now immune to poison and disease.

    PLAYING A SEA TIGER
    You are a Pirate, and life is good. Except when you have to flee Krakens. Or get shipwrecked. Or have to talk various entities out of killing you. Or get cursed while treasure snatching. Or get chased by naval armadas. Except for those moments your life is AWESOME!
    Combat: Generally you sneak on board ships and reserve fighting for when you absolutely have to. Granted you have to far more than you'd like, but thankfully you're pretty good at ambushing, cheating, and various other forms of dirty fighting.
    Advancement: This kind of depends on what you hope to accomplish by becoming a pirate. Training varies depending on what you're really good at, what the captain wants you to do, and your personal ambitions whether they be your own ship, generally being rich, or getting your curses removed.
    Resources: Resources kind of depend on how successful the ship captain has been, but in general you will pretty often go through some pretty poor times, followed by brief periods of hellish panic, and then a short span of luxury before the cycle repeats itself.

    SEA TIGERS IN THE WORLD
    “Merchant and pirate were for a long period one and the same person. Even today mercantile morality is really nothing but a refinement of piratical morality.”
    Pirates are not well liked to say the least. Not at all. Even the nicer ones (the ones that don't automatically kill and rape everyone). Mind you, your being a kitty grants you some slack, especially if they don't know you're a pirate kitty. They'll still lock you up after finding out though.
    Daily Life: Daily Life involves running from various formal navies and vengeful nobles/merchants while planning the next heist. Then it's running to and from the heist, and dividing the loot without causing a mutiny.
    Notables: Cinnamon (CN Female Human Cat Burglar 6/Sea Tiger 6) is a former merchant gaining vengeance on her corrupt colleagues. Pinkbeard (CE Female Human Cat Burglar 6/Sea Tiger 6) is a former bearded lady from a local circus who claims to be visiting vengeance on all men for a wrong of some kind visited upon her.
    Organizations: Most Sea Tigers are the crew of a Pirate ship or at least members of a Guild.

    NPC Reaction
    NPC's thank the Gawds for your appearance as it will help rid them of the meddlesome rats, and then curse the Gawds once it's revealed your a thief.

    SEA TIGERS IN THE GAME
    This class kind of assumes you have a seagoing campaign, and may feel out of place on dry land.
    Adaptation: This is meant for silly campaigns but with effort could be used in a more serious one.
    Encounters: Sea Tigers are generally found as stowaways hiding in kitty form, marooning victims, or during pirate raids.

    Sample Encounter
    EL 12: The PC's ask to meet the captain of the ship they need to book passage on, and are shown to a cabin whose only occupant is a cat. Obviously there's been a mistake or they're all deep in the poo again.


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    Init +2 (+5 KF, +4 BC), Senses: Listen +9, Spot +9Languages Common
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    AC , touch , flat-footed (+2 Dex, )
    AC KF , touch , flat-footed (+2 Size, +5 Dex, )
    AC BC , touch , flat-footed (+1 Size, +4 Dex, )
    hp (12 HD)
    Fort +5, Ref +12, Will +5
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    Speed 30 ft. (6 squares)
    Melee
    Base Atk +8, Grp +8 (-3 KF, +2 BC)
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    Abilities Str 10, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 16
    Abilities KF Str 4, Dex 20
    Abilities BC Str 6, Dex 18
    SQ Purr, Feline Empathy, Cat Powah +3, Scamper Bonus, Kitty Form (Big Cat Form), Enhanced Kitty Form (Seacat Form, Spidercat Form), Burglaring (Sneak Attack +2d6), Kitty Magic (Innocence, Swift Paws), Parrot Familiar, Parley?, Okay Screw Parley (Pirate Wench, Treasure Hunter)
    Feats Anonymous Kitty (Watchcat),
    Skills Balance +10, Bluff +11, Climb +8, Diplomacy +11, Gather Information +11, Hide +10, Knowledge (Geography, Local, Nature) +6, Listen +9, Move Silently +10, Profession (Sailor) +5, Spot +9, Survival +9, Swim +10
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    EPIC SEA TIGER

    Hit Die: d6
    Skills Points at Each Level : 8 + int
    Bonus Feats: The Epic Sea Tiger gains a Bonus Feat every 2 levels higher than 20th
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    I find the phantom cat to be a-pkay now (of course, I might be missing something).
    The bite/claw changes are good. Now both full attacks and hit-and-run tactics are viable depending on ones choice.

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    well then i guess I'll head straight into the pirate kitteh. It's prerequisites are up.
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    Most of the fluff is ready
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    Hey guys, I'm negotiating for two online jobs. If I get the contracts my short term money problems will be fixed. Be patient and I'll update soon.
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    Good luck!
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    I added some short fluff ideas for pirate abilities, can anyone think of a Trope I've missed?
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    Maybe a nice hat?

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    by "exceptional class abilities" Do you mean "Extraordinary class abilities?" If not, please explain.
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    Oops, yeah i meant extraordinary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhu View Post
    I added some short fluff ideas for pirate abilities, can anyone think of a Trope I've missed?
    Well, not really a trope, but I seem to recall reading once that in some, I believe Chinese, superstition, cats were considered to be related to demons or some such, and as a result it was though to be good luck it have cats on a ship, as the demons in the ocean would be less likely to trouble it if some of their own were on board. Not sure if it helps or would be appropriate to a pirate class though.

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    a bonus to diplomacy/bluff vs sea creatures? Makes sense. and the first step of Parley could use a buff... maybe "wild empathy" for sea creatures?
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    Added some more. If no one cn think of anything else I shall get busy
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    Does the cap seem out of whack?
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    The capstone is, as far as I can see, far, far too narrow. It will sometimes be of use, ut most of the time is utterly useless.
    Just blanket spell resistance would probably be better... or both. Spell Resistance plus immunity to curses would give decent power, plus a fluffy boost.
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    How bout now?
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    Well.... problem is, traps suck. Especially at high levels.
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    Pirate cats..pirate cats....Vikings....hmmm...rum runners...Pirate Hunters...Nobles..officers..Pirate Wench...Privateer...pilot...whaler? Surgeon...
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    pirate kitteh updated
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    Okay the Sea Tiger is updated. The Screw Parley abilities are uneven, but some of them aren't really meant for combat. Any thoughts so far?
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