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    Also, Smoker is crazy awesome in One Piece, I wish he had more screentime, but he should now that he's going to the New World.

    My favorite character. I mean come on, he smokes TWO or sometimes THREE cigars at once!

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    My favorite character. I mean come on, he smokes TWO or sometimes THREE cigars at once!
    Thats what I like least about him, smoking is for loosers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlanteanTroll View Post
    I havn't actually gotten past the point when Iceberg's been stabbed. JUMP brought me to Impel down, but I've neglected to fill myself in since a certain site went down. OP Wiki's done a decent job explainng the goings on.
    There are other sites, you know...

    Incidentally, I would rank the arc quality as follows:

    Impel Down
    Enies Lobby
    Arlong
    Water 7
    Arabasta
    Captain Kuro
    Saobondy Archipelago
    Thriller Bark
    Little Garden
    Loguetown
    Whiskey Peak
    Buggy the Clown
    Drum Kingdom
    Baratie
    Marineford
    Captain Morgan
    Davy Back Fight
    Jaya
    Skypeia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver2195 View Post
    There are other sites, you know...

    Incidentally, I would rank the arc quality as follows:

    Impel Down
    Enies Lobby
    Arlong
    Water 7
    Arabasta
    Captain Kuro
    Saobondy Archipelago
    Thriller Bark
    Little Garden
    Loguetown
    Whiskey Peak
    Buggy the Clown
    Drum Kingdom
    Baratie
    Marineford
    Captain Morgan
    Davy Back Fight
    Jaya
    Skypeia
    I am aware. So far, I'd say my top 5 are: Impel Down, Alabasta, Skypeia, Barati, Drum Island.
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    Now I had quite a gap of about a year or two when I didn't read at all, so I don't remember all of some of the earlier arcs.

    But I remember don't really liking Thriller Bark, nor the Archiapelego ( spelled )

    However Alabasta I remember as a great arc, one of the best,

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    So, what would the Alignment of the individuals of CP9 be? Also, Luffy's only 5'6'' which is pretty short isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlanteanTroll View Post
    So, what would the Alignment of the individuals of CP9 be? Also, Luffy's only 5'6'' which is pretty short isn't it?
    The CP9? LN all the way man. Except for Spandam, who is... either LE or CE.

    Well, not to sound racist or anything but the average height of Japan is 5'7", so Luffy is only slightly below average.
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    The CP9? LN all the way man. Except for Spandam, who is... either LE or CE..
    I'd say they're LE and Spandam is CE.

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    Well, not to sound racist or anything but the average height of Japan is 5'7", so Luffy is only slightly below average.
    Maybe so, but he isn't necisarilly Japanese. And I think Oda said that all the crew weren't Japanese. Go to the trivia page on the individual people. According to the trivia section (which gets its stuff from the SBS) Luffy wold be Brazillian if he was a real person. So yeah.
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    All CP9 members are various flavors of evil. I'd say Lucci is pretty clearly Neutral Evil, with that wolf guy and maybe Spandam as Chaotic Evil, while the rest seemd pretty Lawful.

    Granted, they aren't the same baby-eating Eeevil than Akainu or Don Flamingo, but I think their generally cruel, callous and sadistic personalities are enough to put E at the end of each one's alignment.
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    I'm thinking Kaku might be LN, but is a giant jerk. What about the Straw-Hats? Varying Good or Neutral?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlanteanTroll View Post
    Maybe so, but he isn't necisarilly Japanese. And I think Oda said that all the crew weren't Japanese. Go to the trivia page on the individual people. According to the trivia section (which gets its stuff from the SBS) Luffy wold be Brazillian if he was a real person. So yeah.
    Well, whattayaknow, the average height for Brazilians is the same of the Japanese. So, hey, same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet View Post
    All CP9 members are various flavors of evil. I'd say Lucci is pretty clearly Neutral Evil, with that wolf guy and maybe Spandam as Chaotic Evil, while the rest seemd pretty Lawful.

    Granted, they aren't the same baby-eating Eeevil than Akainu or Don Flamingo, but I think their generally cruel, callous and sadistic personalities are enough to put E at the end of each one's alignment.
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    I'm thinking Kaku might be LN, but is a giant jerk. What about the Straw-Hats? Varying Good or Neutral?
    Well, this is as their original versions, not the recently reformed pirate crew which we saw in those silent stories on the covers?

    Now that I think about it and look

    Kaku: CN. He does everything for the fun of it. Yes, he is also a government agent.
    Blueno: LE. He is the only one who really is a godless killing machine.
    Kumadori: LN. He loves the samurai code, and follows his rules pretty well.
    Lucci: NE. Sadistic and cruel, he fits this pretty well. He is one of the NE people who isn't motivated by greed, just sadism and serving the government.
    Jyabura: NE. He is a jerk. Plain and simple.
    Spandam: CE.
    Kaifa: Ehhh, LE.

    I'll do the Straw Hats later...
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    Well, whattayaknow, the average height for Brazilians is the same of the Japanese. So, hey, same thing.
    That's really creepy.

    So 1 month hiatus. Will these gys really look that different? If Nico and Nami get larger busts, that will be a serios turn off to the series. I don't want more Orihimes running around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlanteanTroll View Post
    That's really creepy.

    So 1 month hiatus. Will these gys really look that different? If Nico and Nami get larger busts, that will be a serios turn off to the series. I don't want more Orihimes running around.
    It's not like he's ever consistent with Nami's bust anyway.

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    Oda's not really consistent of any character's body. It's just most noticeable in females. Also, I'm positive Nami and Nico robin have proportionally larger bust than Orihime already...
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    Oda's not really consistent of any character's body. It's just most noticeable in females. Also, I'm positive Nami and Nico robin have proportionally larger bust than Orihime already...
    Definitely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet View Post
    Oda's not really consistent of any character's body. It's just most noticeable in females. Also, I'm positive Nami and Nico robin have proportionally larger bust than Orihime already...
    No, really? I never noticed! (I think on the evil pages I read something about them getting bigger and bigger, though I don't pay that much attention. Has something to do with Oda's wife, someone said)


    Concerning the Strawhats... uh... NG or CG all through, I guess. Can't really be LX, since pirates aren't lawful. But I can't really see a valid argument against any of them concerning the good (okay, maybe the girls, sometimes, but generally their also good most of the time)

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    Thats what I like least about him, smoking is for loosers.
    No, smoking is cool.
    It's really not good for you, and it's annoying and smelly to bystanders, but there's a reason that Wolverine, Nick Fury, Cid Highwind, Integra, James Bond, Spider Jerusalem, Eddie Riggs, Tyler Durden, Bender, Ripley, Solid Snake, Constantine, Hellboy, Asuma, Sam Vimes, Brock Samson, Spike from Buffy, Spike from Cowboy BeBop, everyone in Black Lagoon, and The Spy all smoke. Because it looks pretty badass.

    Besides, he's a man made of smoke. What the hell is cigar smoke going to do to him?
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    Well, here.

    Luffy: NG. I don't think he believes in personal freedom or anything. He just wants to have fun and become the pirate king. I would say TN, except he is also a nice altruistic guy, thus, NG. He might be leaning towards CG, but that is more his personality than his morals.

    Sanji: Surprisingly, LG. He has a code, and he follows it. Mainly it's about protecting women, but hey, I think it counts.

    Usopp: CG. Plain and simple.

    Zoro: Eh, LG or CG. He keeps to a code as well.

    Nami: CN. She never really acts "good." She helps her friends, but that doesn't mean she really is good.

    Robin: TN or NG. She never does anything chaotic, just the government deems it so.

    Franky: CG. He wants to be allowed to do what he wants whenever he wants to. To quote One Piece wiki:
    "Franky is strong-willed, slightly crazy, and free-spirited, with an often blatant disregard for rules. He does whatever he wants whenever he wants..."
    Sounds CG to me.

    Chopper: NG. He justs wants to be nice to his friends. He is kinda naive, so he hasn't really formulated opinions for himself yet.

    Brook: Not sure. CG, maybe?
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    I'd say Smoker is Lawful Good with his OWN PERSONAL BRAND OF JUSTICE.

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    Nami: CE. She's a thief.

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    Nami: CE. She's a thief.
    Evil implies a bit more than petty stealing.
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    Nami: CE. She's a thief.
    more on the lines of CN or CG. she is thief that steals from pirates which were generally evil (a neutral act) for the purposes of buying her town back (a good act). back then she was more CG. she slips into more CN territory when she blackmails people such as zoro and Igaram.

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    The key is that once she got her town back she kept on stealing, and with no guilt about it. We're also not talking about petty change here. Lastly, what is she doing right now? We just got more evidence of her robbing people blind.

    Sure, if you can tug on her heart strings, Nami will help you. That's really not a big deal. I encourage you to look at Rich's articles on gaming, in particular about how evil characters can still have friends, etc.

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    The key is that once she got her town back she kept on stealing, and with no guilt about it. We're also not talking about petty change here. Lastly, what is she doing right now? We just got more evidence of her robbing people blind.

    Sure, if you can tug on her heart strings, Nami will help you. That's really not a big deal. I encourage you to look at Rich's articles on gaming, in particular about how evil characters can still have friends, etc.
    the thing is what has she really stolen since joining the straw hats?

    She has stolen every wallet from the people of her village which they all seem to not have a problem with espcially since she left them 90+ million beries to them all.

    She stole from the bounter hunters which were trying to kill them.

    the whole group grabbed tons of treasure from a sepents belly in skypeia.

    they also found the treasure that perona placed on their ship.

    unless I am missing some time where she steals from a non evil group. I don't think you can really place her as CE. She is at worst CN and at best CG

    edit: reading comprehension fail. anyway yeah the latest one used for her escape is rather bad. so i could see that being going off more to CE side. she did return but for a more self serving reason so taht doesn't help.
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    If Nami was Evil, she wouldn't have tried to help Arlong.

    She really hasn't stolen from anyone good. She's looted, but that's different. I'd say she's N or CN, and that she just wants to be with the Straw Hats and become the worlds best cartographer.
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    The key is that once she got her town back she kept on stealing, and with no guilt about it. We're also not talking about petty change here. Lastly, what is she doing right now? We just got more evidence of her robbing people blind.

    Sure, if you can tug on her heart strings, Nami will help you. That's really not a big deal. I encourage you to look at Rich's articles on gaming, in particular about how evil characters can still have friends, etc.
    Actually, from the looks of things she stole something that they had multiples of, because its the one thing that might let her navigate what are supposed to be the most dangerous waters out there.

    For her to be evil, we'd need to see her do something that either intentionally does harm, or does harm accidentally and she doesn't care.
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    Saul's death and Robin's backstory made me cry. Well, almost. Very touching.
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    Something about Robin's backstory that made me require mindsoap: A 17 year old girl saying this to a pirate crew: "Please, I will do anything."

    *shudder*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet View Post
    Something about Robin's backstory that made me require mindsoap: A 17 year old girl saying this to a pirate crew: "Please, I will do anything."

    *shudder*
    *frowns*

    Yeah, that was odd. Probably less dirty in Japanese.

    Anyway, I just got to the chapter where they burn the Going Merry, and I remember reading this about a year or two ago in Japanese. Ahh memories.
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    *frowns*

    Yeah, that was odd. Probably less dirty in Japanese.
    I doubt. Finnish translation, which is translated straight from Japanese, also translates it as equivalent of "I will do anything". It's pretty clear Robin isn't meaning anything dirty with it, but the context is creepy, to put it mildly.
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