One Piece -- Discussion

[DiscipleofBob]

Combining and expanding these theories: Akainu hand-picked Smoker's crew. They have orders to kill Tashigi and Smoker (they're equiped with kryptoniteseastone weapons "to deal with the Strawhats") when they reach a sufficiently isolated location, and either make it look like pirates did it, or say that they were executed for treason. They successfully kill Tashigi (probably in view of Zoro), prompting Smoker to declare war on Akainu. /WMG

I don't see him actually taking up a crew slot, but he's certainly someone who could end up with some magma on his blade before the end of the series, even if the above scenario doesn't go quite the same way (which it probably won't, I'm not Oda :P )

I actually hypothesize the opposite. If Smoker does go rogue, he'll earn the loyalty of the G5 marines just because he's that awesome. He might even whip them into something resembling a decent fighting force at some point.

I wonder if any of the G5 marines will actually end up being named characters, so Smoker has more than himself and Tashigi to actually fight the Straw Hats.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Too many crew members would spoil the group dynamic. It's already getting so that characters don't get as much plot, character development, and screentime as before. Also, not as many decent battles. Half the problem with the fishman island arc was that all the one-on-one battles were rushed and all shown at the same time. Before that, we had Saobody which had anything but the traditional battle format, Thriller Bark which was less 1v1 battles and more giving the weaklings of the crew a chance to shine, and then pitting everyone VS one powerful enemy at once. The last time we had a decent arc for everyone plot and battle-wise was Impel Down.

This. One Piece is now half-way done according to Oda (or thereabouts). Let's look at Naruto. After the starts of Shippuden, how many truly important main, recurring characters have been introduced that have as much depth as not even Naruto, but let's say, Choji. The answer is, honestly, in the grand scheme of things, not many.

(Nor Jinbei, but that's an old story)

Why not? It's basically all but confirmed as it is now. (Then again, considering Oda...)

Also... Dragons?! What the hell? We had a filler with dragons, I don't want anymore Oda dragons, no thanks.

This is why I don't watch the anime and no one should ever watch filler. Oda probably doesn't even bother to watch the filler himself, and he most certainly doesn't create it.

[Kato]

Why not? It's basically all but confirmed as it is now. (Then again, considering Oda...)

Well... Jinbei humbly declined and I'm mostly agreeing with 'his time is past and the Strawhats aren't for oldtimers'. I don't think there will be a point where he joins up with them. But I guess we will have to see about that.

This is why I don't watch the anime and no one should ever watch filler. Oda probably doesn't even bother to watch the filler himself, and he most certainly doesn't create it.

Hm... not sure if Oda is totally unaware of the filler plot lines and I'm not blaming him for it either it's just... dunno... I don't want it. Especially not since it kind of appears the same kind of dragon from what little we could see.

[Xondoure]

Well... Jinbei humbly declined and I'm mostly agreeing with 'his time is past and the Strawhats aren't for oldtimers'. I don't think there will be a point where he joins up with them. But I guess we will have to see about that.


Hm... not sure if Oda is totally unaware of the filler plot lines and I'm not blaming him for it either it's just... dunno... I don't want it. Especially not since it kind of appears the same kind of dragon from what little we could see.

He didn't really decline as much as say "give me some time to wrap up my affairs and I'll be happy to."

[AtlanteanTroll]

He didn't really decline as much as say "give me some time to wrap up my affairs and I'll be happy to."

Of course, he could have Jimbei all ready to join the Straw Hats then kill him off making him the second character to die on screen. I may cry if that happens...

[Lord of the Helms]

Well... Jinbei humbly declined and I'm mostly agreeing with 'his time is past and the Strawhats aren't for oldtimers'. I don't think there will be a point where he joins up with them. But I guess we will have to see about that.


Hm... not sure if Oda is totally unaware of the filler plot lines and I'm not blaming him for it either it's just... dunno... I don't want it. Especially not since it kind of appears the same kind of dragon from what little we could see.

Huh, dunno where you're gettign that from exactly. The dragons in that filler way back were feathered, bird-like eastern Dragons. This one, from the first picture at least, looks more like it could be straight out of Lord of the Rings or maybe D&D.

Btw as far as I remember the only filler arc that Oda was involved in was the Ice Hunter arc. He didn't have much of anything to do with the others, and the dragon arc was noted for outright contradicting Oda canon in various ways (Zoro cutting Metal and a high-ranking Marine that was pathetic and incapable of combat whatsoever being the most obvious and painful examples) so clearly he did not write it.

As a side note: Dragon. Did not see that coming. Maybe the island is divided between a fire dragon and an ice dragon?

[Charninja]

Well, if that's the case man, then I guess that ice dragon must be pretty happy right now.

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I think it's safe to assume that the guys using the sleeping gas to hijack the Thousand Sunny are not Smoker's men, considering they do not apparently recognize the crew. Also, anybody taking odds on whether the pair of legs really will join the crew later?

[DiscipleofBob]

Yeah... this dragon, not even remotely the same as the one from the filler arc. For one thing, this dragon is actually threatening.

My first thought when it was just a pair of legs was Buggy the Clown, but now that it appears to be an entirely new character (or at least half a one) I'm legitimately confused, mostly because I'm not sure what kind of new power could give a man that ability. Unless he's only half in Logia form or something...

Looks like we get to see some Shichibukai action this arc. Either Donquixote Doflamingo or perhaps we get to see the replacement(s) soon.

Also...

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Why the hell is Brook affected by sleeping gas? He doesn't have any lungs! (Yo-ho-ho-ho...)

EDIT: And now I can't help but picture the dragon-slaying music from Skyrim whenever I reread the chapter.

[Xondoure]

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Anyone else feel like there was a subtle jab / reference to Fairy Tail this chapter? Also new potential crew member! With Jinbei that makes eleven! I told you I wasn't crazy!

[AtlanteanTroll]

My first thought when it was just a pair of legs was Buggy the Clown

This was my thought as well. Though, they aren't the same height, and I doubt he would have grown so much in 2 years if at all.

[Kato]

Huh, dunno where you're gettign that from exactly. The dragons in that filler way back were feathered, bird-like eastern Dragons. This one, from the first picture at least, looks more like it could be straight out of Lord of the Rings or maybe D&D.

Yeah but it seemed to me like it was the same kind last week... meh.


As for today..I guess we got some interesting action... an interesting character (who also made me think of Buggy but I think we get something entirely new and I have NO idea what)
Ad for the others... I almost missed Brooks there... Maybe he just pretends to be knocked out? Would be the most logical assumption I dare say.
Also: Yay, Dragon slaying!

[DiscipleofBob]

So new chapter...

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Suspicions confirmed about there being both a fire and ice half of the island. No word yet on whether a bear carrying a bird in a backpack are somewhere on the island.

Luffy and co. have shenanigans with the legs.

But more importantly, we see the rest of the crew in captivity. Along with the head of a samurai who's in pieces. Now it looks like Trafalgar Law's power, but I'm personally thinking it has to do with another samurai's special possibly DF-powered sword or something.

Brook's apparently missing. Though if he was unconscious, I'm betting whoever captured him probably didn't think he was alive to begin with.

Also, giant day-care.

And this may be a bit presumptuous, but my gut is telling me once the samurai is back in one piece, he might be a candidate for next crew member. Jumping the gun I know, that's just what my instinct is telling me (and why it will therefore never happen.)

[Hiro Protagonest]

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I bet the legs belong to the samurai.

Alright, we've got the head, we've got the legs, why do I feel there's something still missing?

Also, who else thinks the children are baby giants?

[lord_khaine]

But more importantly, we see the rest of the crew in captivity. Along with the head of a samurai who's in pieces. Now it looks like Trafalgar Law's power, but I'm personally thinking it has to do with another samurai's special possibly DF-powered sword or something.

I dont think there are any other Samurai on this island, this guy did say how he were cutting up people because they had apperently kidnapped his son, but got hit by some weird weapon that reduced him to his current state.

And this may be a bit presumptuous, but my gut is telling me once the samurai is back in one piece, he might be a candidate for next crew member. Jumping the gun I know, that's just what my instinct is telling me (and why it will therefore never happen.)

I dont think this will happen, again mostly because he has a son to take care off, it would be strange for him to then abandon whatever duties he have to run off and play pirate.

Also, both luffy eating the dragon, and playing with the legs were hilarious, though the leggs suplexing luffy were also funny

And as a final note, now that i think about it then we allready know about the existance of dragons from the thriller part arc, where the previous owner of Zorro's sword had slain one.

[Kato]

Yeah, was a fun chapter, if a bit much text in the prison scene... Sexist samurai is sexist... but still can't resist Nami's... charms.

I'm also curious what happened to the samurai... didn't think of Trafalger but... it seems unlikely.

Giant day care... I wonder why. And what's up with the place...

And this may be a bit presumptuous, but my gut is telling me once the samurai is back in one piece, he might be a candidate for next crew member. Jumping the gun I know, that's just what my instinct is telling me (and why it will therefore never happen.)

No... what Khaine said... and we got two swordsmen already. There are other weapons if we really want a new crew member...

[AtlanteanTroll]

No... what Khaine said... and we got two swordsmen already. There are other weapons if we really want a new crew member...

This is what I was thinking, but knowing Oda is probably just as likely to be wielding a, I don't know, 12 foot long baseball bat as opposed to a simple sword. Although, at this point, it looks like he doesn't have any DF powers that'd make him particularly unique so yeah. I'm saying he's not joining.

[Hiro Protagonest]

One Piece has been licensed, so no more online manga scans (legal ones at least).

[Dark Tira]

One Piece has been licensed, so no more online manga scans (legal ones at least).

This made me do a double take. For a moment I thought I went into a thread necro.

[lord_khaine]

Is there even a scanlation out?
Because i have been unable to find anything, even on those pages who still had Naruto and Bleach.

[Dark Tira]

Is there even a scanlation out?
Because i have been unable to find anything, even on those pages who still had Naruto and Bleach.

I'm pretty sure it's on break this week.

[lord_khaine]

Ahh thanks.

Quite annoying though, they usualy announce it when the manga when it will skip a release.

[AtlanteanTroll]

New chap, yoh.

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Gotta say, I really like the fact that Punk Hazard was Aokiji and Akainu's battleground.

[lord_khaine]

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This certainly puts a new scale on the true power of the Admirals, when they dont have to worry about collatoral damage.
I guess the Strawhats do a bit further to go, before Luffy will be able to avenge Ace.

That aside, it looks like someone are taking people appart, and proberly putting them together again with other parts.

[Hiro Protagonest]

Yay, I found a new site that's still updating!

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They didn't bother to evacuate the people there. I guess they would think that except for that one super-protected fortress of bounty hunter, but the fact that there are houses there is kind of obvious. Maybe they picked a spot that had nobody in site... and still managed to wreak havoc to the island.

[lord_khaine]

You missed a vital point, the island had allready been evacuated 2 years earlier due to Vegapunk playing around with dangerous chemicals.

[Hiro Protagonest]

You missed a vital point, the island had allready been evacuated 2 years earlier due to Vegapunk playing around with dangerous chemicals.

I did miss that. That explains why they didn't care about collateral damage despite there being a bunch of houses.

[Kato]

Yeah, that reveal on the end was the one amazing bit about the chapter... I guess the kids aare kept to fuse them with animals as well? We'll see... Pretty sure the things are hibrids anyway, and it's probably the same thing as what happened to leggy... Maybe Law really is involved in the whole thing.

[AtlanteanTroll]

So what was the winged woman? A zoan user or some sort of chimera?

[Hiro Protagonest]

So what was the winged woman? A zoan user or some sort of chimera?

I think the other guy was on to something, and they're fusing people with animals. She'd effectively be a harpy. Although since there was a dragon, it might just be that there's a lot of fantasy creatures and she's actually a harpy. Or there's just a lot of zoan users and the dragon is a mystery.

[lord_khaine]

Do remember that the leggs were stuck to the dragon, it seems clear someone had been trying to make a Dragon-centaur....